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edgie said:
The fight? Well basically, Chael Sonnen had come closer than anyone before at knocking off Anderson Silva in his prime, he was on his way to a dominate win on points before being caught in a submission with 90 seconds left. He was promised an immediate rematch.

He was then suspended for a year due to criminal convictions in his real estate business outside of the sport. Fair enough. He is still promised a rematch on return.

When he's back and registered again to fight, he's told he has to have a contender fight now. This one too I think was perhaps fair enough. So he fights a tough fighter, who is fit and ready, and manages the win. Good work Chael. Chael is forced in to a another contender fight, after already establishing himself. Another tough fight against another tough fighter. He gets the job done again. No longer can it continue and the rematch is set.

Important to remember in all of this Chael has talked a lot of shit and stirred up a lot of people in the UFC community, particularly the entire country of Brazil, probably the second biggest country in the UFC behind USA. He's making enemies. He's doing whatever it takes to get the fight. Think what you want about that.

Anyhow, the fight comes. When having their faces Vaselined up by the docs, Silva removes the big dobs from his eyebrows and begins to apply it all over his body around his hips (Chael is a wrestler and destroyed Silva with takedowns in the first fight). This is greasing and illegal. Someone then lightly passes a towel over him, doing nothing and he continues. The fight begins, Sonnen dominates the first round in the same fashion as their last fight. Things get interesting in the second round.

First, during a striking exchange, Silva grabs Sonnen by the shorts (illegal) so he can't move out of range, and then lands some big hits with his other hand. The ref steps in after a while and releases them. Some more striking, Sonnen does a really stupid move, entirely his fault, and goes to ground. Whilst grounded, sitting on his arse, Silva lands a big knee to his hight chest/jaw area, stunning him. It's illegal for a standing fighter to knee a grounded fighter. The fight should have been stopped here and Sonnen allowed to recover. It wasn't. Silva jumped straight on top of him and got punching, eventually leading to a TKO. There's more, I forget when exactly it happened so I didn't say it earlier, but Silva also stopped a takedown attempt on himself by grabbing the cage and holding it, illegal again.

In short, Silva did everything possible to not lose that fight and was allowed to get away with it. UFC got their narrative, the biggest PPV show at the time, and kept the nation of Brazil onside whilst bad guy Sonnen then faded in to obscurity.
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Cheers. I'm not sure why, but when I read the original post for some reason I was thinking of the Weidman-Silva leg break fight.
 
All I'm saying is. 5 months after 9/11. A team with a history of losing, a huge underdog team called the "Patriots" beat the single best team in NFL history (better than the equivalent of Geelong in 08), the St Louis Rams in the super bowl.

A super bowl, and overall play off series, littered with controversial refereeing decisions go their way.

There's more. But I'll leave it at that.
 

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imadodgyumpire said:
All I'm saying is. 5 months after 9/11. A team with a history of losing, a huge underdog team called the "Patriots" beat the single best team in NFL history (better than the equivalent of Geelong in 08), the St Louis Rams in the super bowl.

A super bowl, and overall play off series, littered with controversial refereeing decisions go their way.

There's more. But I'll leave it at that.
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Are you saying there's some foul play tucked away there? :$
 
Firestarter said:
I'm more convinced Hayne is a paycheck chaser than someone with sporting ambition. So that's my conspiracy.
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Karmichael Hunt and Israel Folau were closer to paycheck chasers than Hayne, they got a shitload more to play AFL than they would have playing NRL.

Hayne probably would have made more money staying in the NRL than becoming an NFL rookie or playing Rugby Sevens for Fiji.

imadodgyumpire said:
Why didn't Ali fight Foreman again?
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He did fight him, that was The Rumble in the Jungle.
 
imadodgyumpire said:
All I'm saying is. 5 months after 9/11. A team with a history of losing, a huge underdog team called the "Patriots" beat the single best team in NFL history (better than the equivalent of Geelong in 08), the St Louis Rams in the super bowl.

A super bowl, and overall play off series, littered with controversial refereeing decisions go their way.

There's more. But I'll leave it at that.
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Who won MLB after Boston Marathon ;)
 
Plugger35 said:
He did fight him, that was The Rumble in the Jungle.
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One time. But it wasn't uncommon to fight more than once. Ali fought Frazer 3 times and Norton 3 times as well. I suspect if Ali gave Foreman another chance. Foreman would've learnt what his mistake were and absolutely ******* smashed Ali.
 
imadodgyumpire said:
All I'm saying is. 5 months after 9/11. A team with a history of losing, a huge underdog team called the "Patriots" beat the single best team in NFL history (better than the equivalent of Geelong in 08), the St Louis Rams in the super bowl.

A super bowl, and overall play off series, littered with controversial refereeing decisions go their way.

There's more. But I'll leave it at that.
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Yet a team chasing 4 World Series in a row couldn't get over the line for their city after 9/11

Not rejecting your theories, I just wanted to bring up Arizona's world title
 
imadodgyumpire said:
One time. But it wasn't uncommon to fight more than once. Ali fought Frazer 3 times and Norton 3 times as well. I suspect if Ali gave Foreman another chance. Foreman would've learnt what his mistake were and absolutely ******* smashed Ali.
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Quite possibly, I watched that When We Were Kings doco recently about the Rumble in the Jungle fight and Ali beating Foreman was considered an upset.

Ali probably knew he was unlikely to cause another upset in a re-match so avoided it but I don't think he was obliged to fight Foreman again.
 

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Dons throwing a game in order to get St Kilda a top 4 spot ( which they of course squandered ) and screwing the Crows.


WC vs Adelaide 06 prelim............
 
Plugger35 said:
Not much different to Jarryd Hayne switching to NFL or Karmichael Hunt switching to AFL, some guys like the challenge of trying other sports.
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This was one of the most famous people on the planet giving up what he was best at and basically looking like a goose in the minor league. Wasn't just your typical all-star player either. Jordan was a nutcase when it came to competition and after winning 3 straight titles I cannot believe that he wouldn't have been thinking about winning 8 in a row like the '60s Celtics did.

With Jordan I don't think it was a suspension or anything, but I've never thought it was merely as simple as him trying to make it in two sports. He would have known how good he really was at baseball, and for a guy that cares about image so much, him going to the minors and basically amounting to nothing is just odd. He was never going to be Bo Jackson.

Hayne realised the limitations of Rugby League for his own brand and Hunt was just money hungry.
 
SugarShane said:
Most of the Bulldogs' 2016 games. The funniest thing about 2016 was that everyone saw it as the Dogs sticking it up the AFL who would've wanted GWS to win, when blind Freddy could see they were frothing over a potential Dogs flag. Even the commissioner (I think that's his role) came out before the season and said he wanted to see the Dogs win it all.
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'right in front of me' :D
 

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PP34 said:
This was one of the most famous people on the planet giving up what he was best at and basically looking like a goose in the minor league. Wasn't just your typical all-star player either. Jordan was a nutcase when it came to competition and after winning 3 straight titles I cannot believe that he wouldn't have been thinking about winning 8 in a row like the '60s Celtics did.

With Jordan I don't think it was a suspension or anything, but I've never thought it was merely as simple as him trying to make it in two sports. He would have known how good he really was at baseball, and for a guy that cares about image so much, him going to the minors and basically amounting to nothing is just odd. He was never going to be Bo Jackson.
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The Jordan thing is very suspect, The ESPN documentary certainly made it seem like something was a bit odd. He goes from being crap then ends up doing pretty well then suddenly stops and turns up to train with the Bulls again.

A guy has said he made over a million dollars beating Jordan at Golf.
 
crownie said:
The Jordan thing is very suspect, The ESPN documentary certainly made it seem like something was a bit odd. He goes from being crap then ends up doing pretty well then suddenly stops and turns up to train with the Bulls again.

A guy has said he made over a million dollars beating Jordan at Golf.
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Pretty well? I think he was hitting .207...
 
Abba Lonie said:
I can accept Jordan legitimately giving up basketball and taking up baseball. His father dies, he realises life is short, and having literally achieved everything you could want to in your chosen sport he decides to have a crack at something else.
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Jordan's wife also seemed to be a much more enthusiastic participant in his retirement press conferences, than his comebacks.

I think people downplay the impact of his Dad's death though. They're so blase about it, like it was the equivalent of a messy custody dispute or something. His father (with whom he shared a particularly close bond with) was murdered, because he was driving a luxury car that he wouldn't have been driving if his son wasn't Michael Jordan. I believe that one of James Jordan's murderers was even wearing a Jordan shirt at the time. That wouldn't make us question if it was all worth it and consider walking away, if we were in the same position?
 
Run n Spread said:
AFL is that hopelessly corrupt and deliberately tries to engineer the game a certain way that all the interference can't help but advantage certain teams over others.
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That's not even a conspiracy, it's a fact.
 
crownie said:
pretty well overall did i say?
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I'm sorry

He began playing so well he got his average up to .207...

:cool:

(Actually .202, in AAA. It was never gonna happen)
 

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