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[RedmanWasHere]

Just another example of the AFL bending over backwards in an attempt to make Sydney successful.

Another reason to hate Ross Oakley's time as CEO.

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

Bradley Wiggins legacy is looking dodgier by the day too. PED use in cycling seems to be like abuse in the Catholic Church, the powers that be assure us that the problem is in the past, and yet contemporary cases keep being uncovered.

I remember about 10 years ago riders like Contador, Sastre, Schleck were talking about how they'd moved on from the dark days when Ullrich, Riis, et al were cheating back in the 90s. Then about 5 years ago we had Wiggins, Evans and Froome talking about how the sport had moved on from the dark days in the mid-to-late 00s when Contador, Basso and (frank) Schleck were busted for doping. I won't be at all surprised if in 5 to 10 years the next breed is talking about the dark days of Froome, Evans, Wiggins and Nibali.

 

[Smeg Head]

Doesn't every country do that?

Not to the extent of India. Take that Pune pitch, first Test ever there on a ground that is domestically known for good carry and they produce a dustbowl on BCCI orders.

At least pitches here are kept mostly towards their identity with some leeway. Although drop ins makes them all a bit flatter.

 

[Catfish Alley]

I'm completely out of the loop on cricket, but India got killed by spin right? That backfired.

 

[ioppolo]

With 48 teams soon to be at the World Cup 2026 onwards or whatever, it'll be interesting to see how FIFA play it.

 

[Plugger35]

I can accept Jordan legitimately giving up basketball and taking up baseball. His father dies, he realises life is short, and having literally achieved everything you could want to in your chosen sport he decides to have a crack at something else.

Not much different to Jarryd Hayne switching to NFL or Karmichael Hunt switching to AFL, some guys like the challenge of trying other sports.

With 48 teams soon to be at the World Cup 2026 onwards or whatever, it'll be interesting to see how FIFA play it.

At least they've got rid of that corrupt crook Blatter as FIFA president, Infantino should be an improvement, he couldn't be any more corrupt than Blatter.

 

[IKnowtheDog]

Just another example of the AFL bending over backwards in an attempt to make Sydney successful.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/blues-tried-to-buy-club-to-get-to-lockett-20130430-2ir4x.html

Would be nice to know who the four duds were.

Somehow I don't think Winmar would have gone to Collingwood!!

 

[edgie]

Interested in hearing more about these

The fight? Well basically, Chael Sonnen had come closer than anyone before at knocking off Anderson Silva in his prime, he was on his way to a dominate win on points before being caught in a submission with 90 seconds left. He was promised an immediate rematch.

He was then suspended for a year due to criminal convictions in his real estate business outside of the sport. Fair enough. He is still promised a rematch on return.

When he's back and registered again to fight, he's told he has to have a contender fight now. This one too I think was perhaps fair enough. So he fights a tough fighter, who is fit and ready, and manages the win. Good work Chael. Chael is forced in to a another contender fight, after already establishing himself. Another tough fight against another tough fighter. He gets the job done again. No longer can it continue and the rematch is set.

Important to remember in all of this Chael has talked a lot of shit and stirred up a lot of people in the UFC community, particularly the entire country of Brazil, probably the second biggest country in the UFC behind USA. He's making enemies. He's doing whatever it takes to get the fight. Think what you want about that.

Anyhow, the fight comes. When having their faces Vaselined up by the docs, Silva removes the big dobs from his eyebrows and begins to apply it all over his body around his hips (Chael is a wrestler and destroyed Silva with takedowns in the first fight). This is greasing and illegal. Someone then lightly passes a towel over him, doing nothing and he continues. The fight begins, Sonnen dominates the first round in the same fashion as their last fight. Things get interesting in the second round.

First, during a striking exchange, Silva grabs Sonnen by the shorts (illegal) so he can't move out of range, and then lands some big hits with his other hand. The ref steps in after a while and releases them. Some more striking, Sonnen does a really stupid move, entirely his fault, and goes to ground. Whilst grounded, sitting on his arse, Silva lands a big knee to his hight chest/jaw area, stunning him. It's illegal for a standing fighter to knee a grounded fighter. The fight should have been stopped here and Sonnen allowed to recover. It wasn't. Silva jumped straight on top of him and got punching, eventually leading to a TKO. There's more, I forget when exactly it happened so I didn't say it earlier, but Silva also stopped a takedown attempt on himself by grabbing the cage and holding it, illegal again.

In short, Silva did everything possible to not lose that fight and was allowed to get away with it. UFC got their narrative, the biggest PPV show at the time, and kept the nation of Brazil onside whilst bad guy Sonnen then faded in to obscurity.

 

[Plugger35]

This conspiracy might be a bit out there but I've got a sneaking suspicion that WWE fights are rigged.

 

[Scotland]

I was going to say Jaeger O'Meara being traded to Hawthorn but Hanlon's razor.

 

[edgie]

This conspiracy might be a bit out there but I've got a sneaking suspicion that WWE fights are rigged.

Proof?

Sent from mTalk

 

[Plugger35]

Proof?

Sent from mTalk

 

[edgie]

Bit of whiplash from the other bloke hitting the canvas, looks legit to me.

Sent from mTalk

 

[SugarShane]

2016 Preliminary and Grand Finals

Most of the Bulldogs' 2016 games. The funniest thing about 2016 was that everyone saw it as the Dogs sticking it up the AFL who would've wanted GWS to win, when blind Freddy could see they were frothing over a potential Dogs flag. Even the commissioner (I think that's his role) came out before the season and said he wanted to see the Dogs win it all.

 

[SugarShane]

Santino is clearly exaggerating impact to lull Cena into a false sense of security. Legitimate tactic.

 

[PhatBoy]

Not to the extent of India. Take that Pune pitch, first Test ever there on a ground that is domestically known for good carry and they produce a dustbowl on BCCI orders.

At least pitches here are kept mostly towards their identity with some leeway. Although drop ins makes them all a bit flatter.

You mean like the SCG where a spin great like Will Somerville can cause problems but one of the quickest players in history to 100 wickets and the world's best leg spinner gets mercilessly flogged by a rookie batting line up in the test?

Nah Australia produces Test pitches perfectly reflective of their normal nature. It's everyone else who does it.

 

[Starburns_]

Bradley Wiggins legacy is looking dodgier by the day too. PED use in cycling seems to be like abuse in the Catholic Church, the powers that be assure us that the problem is in the past, and yet contemporary cases keep being uncovered.

What's the story with Wiggins? Has someone been talking or?

Doesn't every country do that?

Doesn't happen here, can't recall ever seeing it in South Africa either. India are notorious for it, and England have been quite brazen at times.

You mean like the SCG where a spin great like Will Somerville can cause problems but one of the quickest players in history to 100 wickets and the world's best leg spinner gets mercilessly flogged by a rookie batting line up in the test?

Nah Australia produces Test pitches perfectly reflective of their normal nature. It's everyone else who does it.

That same Australian batting line-up just embarrassed India's spinners on a dustbowl.

But yeah, Shah got belted because he bowled rubbish all series. If you're looking for a conspiracy in that series, look no further than Pakistan's capitulation at the MCG.

 

[imadodgyumpire]

Michael Phelps lost in the 100m Butterfly at Beijing and he only was gifted the win because his most dangerous opponent Milorad Cavic had a faulty touch pad at the end. The fact that the specific images of the finish have not been released to the public, only the video only has me believe this

Duncan Armstrong doesn't like this.

 

[imadodgyumpire]

There's a lot of conjecture around the 1978 World Cup too.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/jonathanstevenson/2010/05/the_story_of_the_1978_world_cu.html

I bought a video of the 78 final. The amount of ref decisions going Argentina's way was laughable. Iirc, there were a couple of time a Dutch player would be call offside when he was 2-3 meters onside.

 

[PhatBoy]

What's the story with Wiggins? Has someone been talking or?



Doesn't happen here, can't recall ever seeing it in South Africa either. India are notorious for it, and England have been quite brazen at times.



That same Australian batting line-up just embarrassed India's spinners on a dustbowl.

But yeah, Shah got belted because he bowled rubbish all series. If you're looking for a conspiracy in that series, look no further than Pakistan's capitulation at the MCG.

So a team collapsing who are renowned for collapsing is suss, but when Australia get done for double figures for the 5th time in 8 years it's fine.

 

[Firestarter]

Not much different to Jarryd Hayne switching to NFL or Karmichael Hunt switching to AFL, some guys like the challenge of trying other sports.



At least they've got rid of that corrupt crook Blatter as FIFA president, Infantino should be an improvement, he couldn't be any more corrupt than Blatter.

I'm more convinced Hayne is a paycheck chaser than someone with sporting ambition. So that's my conspiracy.

 

[Starburns_]

So a team collapsing who are renowned for collapsing is suss, but when Australia get done for double figures for the 5th time in 8 years it's fine.

No, I don't actually believe any of that is a conspiracy, I merely used the MCG test to point how long a bow you were drawing.

 

[imadodgyumpire]

So a team collapsing who are renowned for collapsing is suss, but when Australia get done for double figures for the 5th time in 8 years it's fine.

That's what happens when they want to play the "Australian way".

 

[Gough]

What's the story with Wiggins? Has someone been talking or?



Doesn't happen here, can't recall ever seeing it in South Africa either. India are notorious for it, and England have been quite brazen at times.



That same Australian batting line-up just embarrassed India's spinners on a dustbowl.

But yeah, Shah got belted because he bowled rubbish all series. If you're looking for a conspiracy in that series, look no further than Pakistan's capitulation at the MCG.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/mar/01/british-cycling-team-sky-package-bradley-wiggins

British Cycling and Team Sky have no records at all to prove what was in a medical package carried to France for Sir Bradley Wiggins at the end of the Critérium du Dauphiné race in 2011, the head of the UK’s anti-doping agency has told a committee of MPs.

In hugely damaging evidence for the two closely linked organisations, Nicole Sapstead said the team doctor who received the mystery jiffy bag at the race failed to upload computer records as required, and later reported his laptop had been stolen on holiday.

It's all coming over a bit Hird/Dank.

 

[Firestarter]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/mar/01/british-cycling-team-sky-package-bradley-wiggins

It's all coming over a bit Hird/Dank.

Complete with the France thing.