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Observed in Round 12 2012

  • The winning teams in round 12 beat their opponents by a combined tally of 12 goals 64 behinds - 81.111 v 69.47
  • The first time since 1980 that two matches in a round were won with fewer goals and the same goal scores.
  • West Coast's goals to behinds percentage in 2012 has been 45.03% at Subiaco Oval and 60.74% elsewhere.
  • The first time that Adelaide has led by 30 or more points at 3/4 time and then won the match by less than a goal.
  • Richmond's 3rd consecutive win outside of Victoria - the most since 2000-2001 and first time in the same season.
  • Nth Melbourne's 2nd biggest win with fewer goals.
  • Brisbane's highest first quarter score v Hawthorn.
  • The 400,000th attendance at a Bulldogs v Power game.
  • Carlton, North Melbourne and The Bulldogs have each won 11 of their last 22 matches.
  • Hawthorn and Geelong have each won 403 matches from the start of 1983.
  • Carlton and St Kilda have each won 274 matches from the start of 1988.
  • Essendon and West Coast have each won 245 matches from the start of 1993
  • Melbourne and Richmond have each won 179 matches from the start of 1993
  • Collingwood and St Kilda have each won 139 matches from the start of 2003
  • Adelaide and West Coast have each won 122 matches from the start of 2003

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Observed in Round 13 2012:

  • The first match that Sydney/SM won by winning only the first quarter was in 1924 v Geelong.
  • The first time in 14,067 third quarters that each team had 4 scoring shots and one has registered 4 goals and the other 4 behinds.
  • The 3rd time this year that Collingwood have won after scoring less than 11% of their total score in the last quarter.
  • Essendon's 4th consecutive win outside of Victoria after winning 4 of their previous 21 matches interstate.
  • First time that Melbourne have kept an opponent scoreless in a 3rd quarter since round 17, 1993.
  • Adelaide's 16th loss from, their last 17 matches in Victoria.
  • The average score so far in 2012 has been 89.99 points. this is currently the lowest season average since 87.98 in 1970.

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This definitely qualifies as trivia - players whose age is the same as their guernsey number:

19 - Tom Lynch
20 - Viv Michie, Josh Toy, Sam Reid
21 - Shane Savage
23 - Chris Mayne, Matthew Lobbe
24 - Sam Jacobs
25 - Angus Graham
26 - Kepler Bradley, Sam Butler
27 - Mathew Stokes, Stephen Gilham, Jared Rivers, Will Minson
28 - Jake King
29 - Martin Mattner
 
Ron The Bear said:
This definitely qualifies as trivia - players whose age is the same as their guernsey number:

19 - Tom Lynch
20 - Viv Michie, Josh Toy, Sam Reid
21 - Shane Savage
23 - Chris Mayne, Matthew Lobbe
24 - Sam Jacobs
25 - Angus Graham
26 - Kepler Bradley, Sam Butler
27 - Mathew Stokes, Stephen Gilham, Jared Rivers, Will Minson
28 - Jake King
29 - Martin Mattner
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Interesting. I wonder if there has been a player who was the same age as their guernsey number twice? Since players tend to either stay with the same number or move to a lower number with experience, my guess is that it would be exceedingly rare.



Michael Hurley was #22 when he started at 18 years of age, and at 22 years of age now, he is #18. But that's completely different to my question, though.
 
Dos23 said:
I wonder if there has been a player who was the same age as their guernsey number twice? Since players tend to either stay with the same number or move to a lower number with experience, my guess is that it would be exceedingly rare.
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Found 32 cases of players whose age in senior games matched two different guernsey numbers. My data's only as good as what was on the AFL's historical stats pages though, and it's been pointed out that it contains some inaccuracies concerning guernsey numbers.

Collingwood swapped their numbers around a lot in the 1930's, resulting in Jack Ross wearing #20, #21 and #24 which corresponded with his age in games during 1932, 33 & 35.

Marcus Whelan wore #21, #23 and #26 in 1936, 38 & 40 in similar circumstances.

The last player I can find to have "achieved the double" is Ted Richards - #20 at Essendon in 2003 and #25 at Sydney in 2008.
 
Ron The Bear said:
Most consecutive games, current streaks:

Code: 
Gms Player            Cb
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156 Simpson, Kade      Ca
104 Deledio, Brett    Ri
98 Gibbs, Bryce      Ca
76 Swallow, Andrew    NM
76 Thompson, Scott D. NM
68 Kennedy, Josh P.  Sy
68 Riewoldt, Jack    Ri
67 Gilbert, Sam      St
64 Harvey, Brent      NM
64 Redden, Jack      Br
61 Cross, Daniel      WB
60 Betts, Eddie      Ca
58 Cox, Dean          WC
56 Garlett, Jeff      Ca
56 Jones, Nathan      Me
55 Judd, Chris        Ca
51 Boyd, Matthew      WB
51 Selwood, Scott    WC
51 van Berlo, Nathan  Ad
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Gibbs missed the final vs West Coast last year and Judd was 'rested' vs the Giants this year...
 
Ron The Bear said:
Found 32 cases of players whose age in senior games matched two different guernsey numbers. My data's only as good as what was on the AFL's historical stats pages though, and it's been pointed out that it contains some inaccuracies concerning guernsey numbers.

Collingwood swapped their numbers around a lot in the 1930's, resulting in Jack Ross wearing #20, #21 and #24 which corresponded with his age in games during 1932, 33 & 35.

Marcus Whelan wore #21, #23 and #26 in 1936, 38 & 40 in similar circumstances.

The last player I can find to have "achieved the double" is Ted Richards - #20 at Essendon in 2003 and #25 at Sydney in 2008.
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Cheers for that, RTB. I had discounted the possibility of this occuring with players changing clubs. Indeed, these days it's probably by far the most likely way for it to occur.
 
1 Million said:
Gibbs missed the final vs West Coast last year and Judd was 'rested' vs the Giants this year...
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Ooh, looks like I have a glitch. Good pickup.

Edit: Oddly, those were the only two that were incorrect. I have two routines for calculating the consecutive games numbers - one that runs weekly and just updates the latest round of data (quick), and one which blanks all the data and re-caulculates it (slow, runs overnight). The weekly routine needs some work...
 

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UpForGrabs said:
Am I right in assuming that last weekend was Freo's 386th match in the AFL - and therefore the 386th week where they haven't been top of the ladder?
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392nd game in fact. Indeed they've never been on top of the ladder - 5 weeks in 2010 sitting 2nd is their best to date.
 
35Daicos said:
392nd game in fact. Indeed they've never been on top of the ladder - 5 weeks in 2010 sitting 2nd is their best to date.
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386th with the first round progressive ladder in operation. However there could be a case made that the progressive ladder still operates as the finals progress. The League does publish rearranged placings for the top 8 after the finals, although I think the whole finals series is taken as one 'round'.

Sydney/SM never made the top of the ladder after the completion of 531 consecutive rounds between 1959 and 1984. They were on top for one round after round 1 of 1959 when they spoiled Collingwood's premiership pennant unfurling at Victoria Park by trouncing the Magpies by 10 goals. (It was also they last time that they won all 4 quarters against Collingwood.) Before that match they had last been on top of the ladder, round 20 of 1945.
 

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UpForGrabs said:
Am I right in assuming that last weekend was Freo's 386th match in the AFL - and therefore the 386th week where they haven't been top of the ladder?
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Just to try and clarify my previous response, Fremantle have played 386 H&A games, plus 6 finals spread over 3 seasons (= 392 games). So as for how many weeks they haven't been on top of the ladder, probably 386 + 3 = 389 would be the best answer, I suspect! Also UpforGrabs, is your avatar picture of Warren Ralph, and if so is that a Glenelg (or is it a Claremont) jumper he is wearing?
 
35Daicos said:
Just to try and clarify my previous response, Fremantle have played 386 H&A games, plus 6 finals spread over 3 seasons (= 392 games). So as for how many weeks they haven't been on top of the ladder, probably 386 + 3 = 389 would be the best answer, I suspect! Also UpforGrabs, is your avatar picture of Warren Ralph, and if so is that a Glenelg (or is it a Claremont) jumper he is wearing?
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That's his Claremont jumper - taken before his second season of footy (1981) where he'd go on and kick 127 goals for the year.

Even as an East Perth supporter, I'm fascinated by him.
 
UpForGrabs said:
That's his Claremont jumper - taken before his second season of footy (1981) where he'd go on and kick 127 goals for the year.

Even as an East Perth supporter, I'm fascinated by him.
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His best games in a Carlton jumper were obviously sensational, it's a pity there weren't more of them perhaps, but he could really play. His brief stay in SA was not at all successful on the field, but (assuming the lottery win story is correct) off the field a huge success story for him.
 
35Daicos said:
His best games in a Carlton jumper were obviously sensational, it's a pity there weren't more of them perhaps, but he could really play. His brief stay in SA was not at all successful on the field, but (assuming the lottery win story is correct) off the field a huge success story for him.
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He kicked 12 10+ goal hauls in his 120+ games for Claremont. No too sure anyone in WAFL history has a better strike rate than that.

I'll be able to answer that question soon enough.
 
Gold Coast lost their 20th in a row, to break the record they'll have to lose all their remaining matches of the year, all of 2013 and R1 of 2014 to boot. It's a mountain to.. well not so much to climb, but to plummet down.



RogersResults said:
Sydney/SM never made the top of the ladder after the completion of 531 consecutive rounds between 1959 and 1984.
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An interesting one. I have them as 557, because after Round 1 of 1985, Essendon had played and won twice. So the ladder on the Monday would've had Essendon on top.
 
*Paul* said:
Gold Coast lost their 20th in a row, to break the record they'll have to lose all their remaining matches of the year, all of 2013 and R1 of 2014 to boot. It's a mountain to.. well not so much to climb, but to plummet down.





An interesting one. I have them as 557, because after Round 1 of 1985, Essendon had played and won twice. So the ladder on the Monday would've had Essendon on top.
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Highlights the fact that the progressive ladder has no official status or function.
My calculation was based on a ladder that year where each team had played the same number of matches and putting the Essendon v Hawthorn match back in round 3 although it had been played before rounds 1 and 2.
Current recreations of the 1903 ladder have the Geelong v Carlton round 2 match played in Sydney between rounds 13 and round 14 counted as if it had been played in round 2 along with the other matches of that round. The ladders from round 2 to round 13 show Geelong with a win and Carlton with a loss that hadn't yet happened.

I'm undecided which is "correct".
 

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