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Likely to be a user-pays stat collected by Champion Data.
One for the gurus:
What is the most amount of goals that someone's scored in a season where they've scored more points than goals?
What is the most amount of goals that someone's scored in a season where they've scored more points than goals?
Re: Discrepancy in the 1914 semi-final score: Geelong 5.8 instead of 5.7.
Papers such as the Warrnambool Standard and the Broken Hill Barrier Miner which would have got the scores by wire later, published Geelong's score as 5.7 in their Monday editions.
League statistician and Geelong club historian Col Hutchinson has been alerted and reports that he will check the League's minutes when he is next in the office. (Monday.)
Papers such as the Warrnambool Standard and the Broken Hill Barrier Miner which would have got the scores by wire later, published Geelong's score as 5.7 in their Monday editions.
League statistician and Geelong club historian Col Hutchinson has been alerted and reports that he will check the League's minutes when he is next in the office. (Monday.)
Here's a strange question i thought of, one in line with the winners of the games in which the flag was unfurled.
Wondering which opposition clubs have witnessed the most unfurlings of flags?
Thus, has a few sides watched more than their fair share, and have others been spared the (indignity)?
It would of course depend on whether in the 70's and 80's and early 90's...would Premiers playing a season opener at Waverley for example as a home side have done it there, or waited until their home venue game as well.
That's probably one question that might take some time to find an answer to...
Wondering which opposition clubs have witnessed the most unfurlings of flags?
Thus, has a few sides watched more than their fair share, and have others been spared the (indignity)?
It would of course depend on whether in the 70's and 80's and early 90's...would Premiers playing a season opener at Waverley for example as a home side have done it there, or waited until their home venue game as well.
That's probably one question that might take some time to find an answer to...
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Here's a strange question i thought of, one in line with the winners of the games in which the flag was unfurled.
Wondering which opposition clubs have witnessed the most unfurlings of flags?
Thus, has a few sides watched more than their fair share, and have others been spared the (indignity)?
It would of course depend on whether in the 70's and 80's and early 90's...would Premiers playing a season opener at Waverley for example as a home side have done it there, or waited until their home venue game as well.
That's probably one question that might take some time to find an answer to...
The tradition appears to have been to unfurl the pennant at the first home game of the next season. But that is not necessarily so. (As you have suggested with the Waverly example). For example if you assumed that Geelong's 1952 pennant was unfurled round 1 at Kardinia Park v Hawthorn, you would be wrong. Nor was it unfurled at their next home game in round 4 v Essendon. It was not unfurled until round 6, 30 May 1953 at Kardinia Park before the match against South Melbourne.
This was done according to Geelong president, Jack Jennings in recognition of South Melbourne's support during WW II when Geelong had to withdraw from the League.
No doubt there will be various instances, like this over the years. To just compile a list of opponents at premiers first home games in the season following their premiership would not be definitive. To make a definitive list you would have to go through the newspaper match reports from 1897 (Collingwood unfurled their 1896 VFA flag in front of St Kilda in round 1 of 1897) and/or Football Records from 1912 to find the answers.
The resources are there for you to make that project if you are really keen to know the answer, unless somebody else already has and can provide the list. I repeat, a list of first home game opponents is not enough.
Not a definitive answer, but the AFL has Alan Noonan down for 77.78 in 1974. Paul has him at 77.74, but is missing the Easter Monday game against South Melbourne where Noonan kicked 6 (6.4 seems very plausible).
Next best I can find is Bob Pratt, 64.79 in 1936.
Awesome. Was just finishing off the WAFL goalkickers for 1955 and noticed that John Gerovich and John Todd (both 17 year olds in their first seasons for South Fremantle) kicked 74.75 and 50.61 each.
Who was the last playing coach in AFL? How many games did he play as player and coach?
Malcolm Blight was playing coach of Nth Melbourne for part of 1981.
Wikipedia says that he was "sacked as coach after 6 consecutive losses*". That would make 16 matches as playing coach. In round 17, relieved of the burden of coaching he kicked 11 goals.
* referencing a dead link.
Last one I could think of was Alex Jesaulenko in 1979. Being a Collingwood supporter remember him taking the P'Ship cup with Percy Jones on the dais.
Full list since WW2. Stats are unofficial but I believe them to be accurate. Another 94 men served as playing coach for one or more games prior to 1946, when it was much more common.
Code:
Last Match Coach PCM CMa Club(s) Career PMa Club(s) Career
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5/06/1982 Hampshire, Ian 1 34 WB 1982-1983 224 Ge,WB 1968-1982
18/07/1981 Blight, Malcolm 12 250 NM,Ge,Ad,St 1981-2001 178 NM 1974-1982
16/05/1981 Jesaulenko, Alex 55 140 Ca,St,Ca 1978-1990 279 Ca,St 1967-1981
30/08/1980 Ditterich, Carl 29 44 Me 1979-1980 285 St,Me,St,Me 1963-1980
7/06/1975 Tuddenham, Des 69 112 Es,Sy 1972-1978 251 Co,Es,Co 1962-1977
27/07/1974 Nicholls, John 61 95 Ca 1972-1975 328 Ca 1957-1974
2/05/1970 Whitten senior, Ted 174 228 WB 1957-1971 321 WB 1951-1970
17/05/1969 Barassi, Ron D. 50 515 Me,Ca,NM,Me,Sy 1964-1995 254 Me,Ca 1953-1969
27/08/1966 Skilton, Bob 29 123 Sy,Me 1965-1977 237 Sy 1956-1971
28/08/1965 Arthur, Graham 30 36 Ha 1964-1965 232 Ha 1955-1968
22/08/1964 Murray, Kevin 34 34 Fi 1963-1964 333 Fi 1955-1974
15/08/1959 Clegg, Ron 34 36 Sy 1958-1959 231 Sy 1945-1960
24/08/1957 Stephen, Bill 48 258 Fi,Es,Fi 1955-1980 162 Fi 1947-1957
17/08/1957 Kennedy, John J. 1 412 Ha,NM 1957-1989 164 Ha 1950-1959
16/06/1956 Davis, Bob 1 116 Ge 1956-1965 189 Ge 1948-1958
12/05/1956 Sutton, Charlie 73 162 WB 1951-1968 173 WB 1942-1956
20/08/1955 Foote, Les 33 36 St 1954-1955 167 NM,St 1941-1955
28/08/1954 Ruthven, Allan 55 57 Fi 1952-1954 222 Fi 1940-1954
11/07/1953 Donald, Wally 3 3 WB 1952-1953 205 WB 1946-1958
30/08/1952 Lane, Gordon 47 55 Sy 1950-1952 178 Es,Sy 1940-1952
29/09/1951 Reynolds, Dick 218 415 Es 1939-1960 320 Es 1933-1951
1/09/1951 Green, Fred 9 18 St 1951 116 Es,St 1939-1951
30/06/1951 McLaren, George 1 1 WB 1951 139 WB 1944-1951
26/08/1950 Olliver, Arthur 127 131 WB 1943-1950 272 WB 1935-1950
12/08/1950 Kyne, Phonse 7 272 Co 1950-1963 245 Co 1934-1950
24/06/1950 Smith, Norm W. 17 452 Fi,Me,Sy 1949-1972 227 Me,Fi 1935-1950
27/08/1949 Albiston, Alec 56 57 Ha 1947-1949 177 Ha,NM 1936-1950
27/08/1949 Dyer senior, Jack 159 226 Ri 1941-1952 312 Ri 1931-1949
20/09/1947 Hughson, Fred 95 96 Fi 1943-1947 164 Fi 1938-1947
30/08/1947 Hird senior, Allan 38 38 St 1946-1947 154 Ha,Es,St 1938-1947
27/07/1946 Ruddell, Cec 2 2 Es 1945-1946 122 Es 1940-1949In 1952 Geelong's Fred Flanagan was named as captain-coach of the Victorian team to play South Australia in Adelaide. Flanagan captained Geelong 1951-3 but never coached a senior Victorian League team.
Was there any other example after of somebody being coach of a Victorian state team but never coaching at League senior club level?
Was there any other example after of somebody being coach of a Victorian state team but never coaching at League senior club level?
hawkman
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What are the average quarter lengths over the last 10 years? Has it dropped this year as it feels like the games are a little shorter?
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I think they are probably longer due to more stoppages (and maybe due to longer breaks after goals). In my opinion games are running longer than they used to.
hawkman
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Tks Ron - good list. Shows how the game has moved on from the 70/80's.
Who was last man to play AFL/VFL and play test cricket for Australia?
Max Walker?
Max Walker?
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I hope the meaning behind this question is apparent. This round (Round 4) involves Brisbane Lions vs Gold Coast, Carlton vs Essendon and Geelong vs Richmond. The last time these three pairings played each other, the margin was 62 points in each game. If it's not too much of a researching nightmare, has a similar scenario in relation to previous winning margins been present at the beginning of any other round?
A round where there are three teams that all defeated their opponents that round by the same amount in the the last meeting.
I can't do that one in a couple of clicks of the mouse. Maybe somebody else can. Quite possible - if someone is intrigued enough to set up the right queries. I'm intrigued but a bit busy with other stuff at the moment.
Butch Gale (Fitzroy) and Bruce Combden (Carlton) both coached Victoria B teams against Tasmania in 1959 and 1960 respectively.
Between 1925 and 1949, the captain of Victoria was also the playing coach. The following captain-coaches do not appear to have coached at club level, with most of them having captain-coached the Vics against the less stronger states or country leagues.
Player . . . . . . Club . . . .Captain-coached Victoria
Jim Atkinson . . . Fitzroy . . 1925 vs New South Wales
Fred Finch . . . . Hawthorn . .1926 vs Ballarat
Bob Corbett . . . .Melbourne . 1926 vs Ovens and Murray
Horrie Morgan . . .St. Kilda . 1927 vs Bairnsdale
Charlie Stanbridge South Melb .1929 vs South Australia
Frank Murphy . . . Collingwood 1930 vs Subiaco, 1932 vs VFA
Colin Martyn . . . Carlton . . 1931 vs South Australia
Mickey Crisp . . . Carlton . . 1935 vs Bendigo, 1938 vs South Australia
Jack Regan . . . . Collingwood 1941 vs New South Wales
Don Cordner . . . .Melbourne . 1948 vs South Australia
Jack Graham . . . .South Melb .1948 vs South Australia
Neale Daniher coached Victoria against The Allies in 1996 before having any club coaching experience, and Damian Drum also coached Victoria against The Allies (1998) before having any club coaching experience.
Thanks for that. In the list I have, Flanagan was listed as coach as well as captain in 1952 but Alan Gale and Bruce Comben in 1959 and 1960 only had the designation of "captain" with no listing for "coach". The list I have also has Neil Roberts as captain of a Victorian side against Bendigo in 1960 (a "C" side?) with no listing for coach.
I was using the AFL 1991 Year Book, which I believe was the last one published. So whilst the source is over 20 years old, they always printed info on interstate matches which is why I referred to it. On page 128 of this particular year book they list Gale and Combden as being captain and coach. They also list Roberts as captain against Bendigo in 1960 but no mention of the coach.
According to my edition of The Encyclopedia of AFL Footballers, Bruce Combden was only told on the plane that he would be coaching the 1960 team.
According to my edition of The Encyclopedia of AFL Footballers, Bruce Combden was only told on the plane that he would be coaching the 1960 team.
1) Jason Blake from St Kilda is widely known as the player to have played the most games for no Brownlow votes, but who has kicked the most goals and never received a vote?
2) North had 15 goalkickers against GWS in round 2, is this a club record?
2) North had 15 goalkickers against GWS in round 2, is this a club record?
