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Steven Baker found guilty

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inferno66 said:
Yeah your right. With a bad record the activation points increase by 40%...which meant baker got an extra one week on top.
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But without the ability of an early plea

Taking out whether Baker is Guily of anything, the sentence itself is ridiculous
 

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bourbons said:
Patrick Smith on SEN this morning reckoned he could have - just pleaded guilty as soon as he walked through the tribunal doors Tuesday night.
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Why would you listen to anything Effluent has to say?

He is wrong (again).

Baker didn't know the charge when he walked in the door. He didn't know the grading and hence the points. How on earth could he plead guilty?

Pat is a f/wit pure and simple. He had Baker hung Monday when he knew nothing of the incident. He's as ignorant and bitter as the Purple tossbags in this thread.
 
What if Baker was an umpire ?

An interesting question raised by a caller on SEN asking what have happened if Gary Coleman was in the place of Baker and the same incident occurred ?. ie. no vision and Jeff ending up with facial injuries.

Would Farmer have been given a holiday regardless of injuries sustained ?. Would Dana Plato still be alive ?

Not a Baker defence, I just find it a fascinating question/hypothetical given the lack of vision of the incident.
 
dan warna said:
Baker told the tribunal that Farmer had merely run into the back of him as he stepped into his path to prevent him running into the forward line.

"My intention (in blocking Farmer) was to stay goal side of him and to stop him getting the ball," he said.

However Baker conceded the ball was more than five metres away when he blocked Farmer and conceded his actions warranted a free-kick but not a report.

In contrast Farmer said he was standing watching the play when he felt someone make contact 'to the right hand side of his face.'

But he was unable to tell the tribunal who had made contact with him.

"Basically I was watching the play and the next thing I remember contact was made to my face and then I remember being on the ground on all fours."

Farmer then needed assistance to leave the field and did not play the rest of the game and is in doubt for this week's game against his former club Melbourne.

Fremantle trainer Barry Kirkwood also gave evidence telling the tribunal that Baker ran in from about 20 metres away from Farmer from 'a diagonal direction' and made contact with him.

But he was unable to tell the tribunal what form of contact Baker made because his view at the moment of impact was obscured.

lol farmer said he was standing still and kirkwood, baker and nixon said farmer was moving...

so is kirkwood a liar or is farmer a liar?

irrespective of bakers guilt, one 'eyewitness' directly contradicts farmers events.

did farmer lie to stitch up baker or did kirkwood lie to stitch up baker? interestingly the tribunal convicted baker on his own testamony and didn't believe kirkwood or farmer...

liars one or both them?
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Where does Kirkwood say Farmer was standing still? He says in that passage that Baker ran towards him, he doesn't say whether Farmer is moving or not.

And WTF is Nixon even giving evidence at such a hearing? He has ties to St Kilda and manages 13 of their current players. That cannot be considered unbiased testimony.

LOL at the fact that they convicted him on his own evidence! He must have gone to the Cambell Brown School for geniuses!:D
 
Re: What if Baker was an umpire ?

The umpire would be sacked and possibly charged with assault.
It's a big no no for umpires to go around dishing out sly bumps 100m away from play.

And there wouldn't be a single person sticking up for him either. SEN and Big Footy would still go into meltdown, but instead of defending him and bagging the AFL, people would be calling for the reintroduction of the death penalty.

The double standards of dumb-ass footy fans never ceases to amaze me.
 
He's a dirty little mongrel. Don't feel sorry for him, people like him should be behind bars not on football fields. He lined up Brad Dick, from Collingwood, in a practice match earlier this year and was lucky not to get sighted for it.
 
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Atomboy said:
An interesting question raised by a caller on SEN asking what have happened if an umpire was in the place of Baker and the same incident occurred ?. ie. no vision and Jeff ending up with facial injuries.

Would Farmer have been given a holiday regardless of injuries sustained ?.

Not a Baker defence, I just find it a fascinating question/hypothetical given the lack of vision of the incident.
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Thats the dumbest question Ive ever heard

What if child prodigy Macauly Calkin replaced Steven Baker and the same incident occured. Would you never watch Home Alone again?
 

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Forget any evidence Farmer,Kirkwood or Nixon gave.

This has come down to Steven Barker's evidence and tribunal said after taking it into account they found him guilty.

St Kilda are only appealing because they did not agree with the tribunal's decision. They don't have any new evidence therefore the appeal will fail and it will be a short night.
 
Re: What if Baker was an umpire ?

If Baker was an umpire, he might be less hated.

Although it would look strange if an umpire tried to cheat and break the rules each week by holding someone off the ball, throw knees in and take cheap shots from behind. Guess it must be Hamill's influence.
 
Coin_Toss said:
He's a dirty little mongrel. Don't feel sorry for him, people like him should be behind bars not on football fields.
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Please, do all of us that love football a favour and go and watch a non contact sport. This sort of hysteria is what is ruining the game.

TBH, I've seen worse injuries in Netball than what Jeff suffered from running into Baker so maybe sport in general isn't your go? Lawn Bowls might be an option.
 
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I think I wouldn't watch it, but that's only because I can't look at Culkin without choking up and thinking about where his career has gone.

However if it was someone like Gary Coleman from TV's Different Strokes I rekon I'd have a new found respect for him and the show and could possible purchase all seasons on DVD.
 
MRobbo said:
Forget any evidence Farmer,Kirkwood or Nixon gave.

This has come down to Steven Barker's evidence and tribunal said after taking it into account they found him guilty.

St Kilda are only appealing because they did not agree with the tribunal's decision. They don't have any new evidence therefore the appeal will fail and it will be a short night.
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Dead right.

I just hope they hear you this time.
 
MRobbo said:
This has come down to Steven Barker's evidence and tribunal said after taking it into account they found him guilty.
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Actually that isn't true at all.

The tribunal were instructed to accept Baker's evidence but given the gradings determined, they clearly didn't.

If you accept that Baker stopped then you couldn't possibly give the grading they came up with.
 

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JeffDunne said:
I've seen worse injuries in Netball
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I'm not surprised you watch Netball, as you'd be gagging to see some players actually make a hard contest, as opposed to watching blokes like the Clarke brothers continually fill their pants whenever someone comes within cooee.
 
Re: What if Baker was an umpire ?

Atomboy said:
An interesting question raised by a caller on SEN asking what have happened if an umpire was in the place of Baker and the same incident occurred ?. ie. no vision and Jeff ending up with facial injuries.

Would Farmer have been given a holiday regardless of injuries sustained ?.

Not a Baker defence, I just find it a fascinating question/hypothetical given the lack of vision of the incident.
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Depends if you honestly think that Baker did nothing to initiate the contact. In fact I suspect most think that he's taken a swing, but cant prove it.

The fact there is no vision does not 'clear' Baker.
 
Re: What if Baker was an umpire ?

What if an umpire smashes Kane Johnston's head clean off a few years back? What would've happened then.
Karma has returned to Baker.



JUSTICE!
 
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Atomboy said:
Look, consider it a hypothetical.

Kind of like what you would do with what your username falsely suggests....
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Its about as hypothetical as Gary Coleman marrying the Queen and becoming the King of England. Its just never and I mean EVER going to happen
 
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tsf said:
I think I wouldn't watch it, but that's only because I can't look at Culkin without choking up and thinking about where his career has gone.

However if it was someone like Gary Coleman from TV's Different Strokes I rekon I'd have a new found respect for him and the show and could possible purchase all seasons on DVD.
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'Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?!?!
 
Bobby Giovanni said:
I'm not surprised you watch Netball,
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I'm not surprised your contribution to this thread is nothing but a mindless troll.

Surprise us for once Bobby and actually post something remotely on topic.
 
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