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[Look2Me4Guidance]

If it was Macca though, would that be so bad considering Stanley's VFL form?

Must the best ruck stocks at St Kilda for a long time

It wouldn't be......but let's not tempt fate. The biggest positive from this is that it allows Macca to get some serious game time and bolster his experience.

 

[okeydoke7]

Is it jue or do St. Kilda always seem to get the raw end of the deal at the tribunal. I know I sound hard done by, but basically the penalties to Baker and King are judged as two of the four worst hits in the last decade. How can that be possible where one had no evidence (Innocent until proven guilty anyone?) and the other certainly warrented a suspension, but of this magnitude? Surely not. By this measure, the Hall/Staker incident should have got 12 months.

Anyway, can't change what is done. I really thought we would have a good advantage on Geelong in the rucks. Blake and Mumford are hardly imposing. Shame about Kingy missing that game.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

i don't know if you are serious with this argument or just being obtuse for fun

the bump caused the head clash, if that what it was, or the hit on the ground therefore it is deemed high. It's very clear.

Contact shall be classified as high or to the groin where a
player's head or groin makes contact with another player or
object such as the fence or the ground as a result of the actions
of the offending player. pg3

the only argument they had any hope on was the intent/reckless one and that wasn't worth the risk. seriously.

don't snipe players 30 - 40m off the ball and this goes away.

So clearly Power should have been penalised for headbutting King in the eye in retaliation for a little bump. Not King's fault he ballsed it up and KO'd himself.

 

[It Was A Good Day]

I can promise you seanoff is an umpire.

 

[seanoff]

I can promise you seanoff is an umpire.

i can promise you i'm not.

sometimes you have to put your hand up and say i did wrong and cop it.

 

[seanoff]

So clearly Power should have been penalised for headbutting King in the eye in retaliation for a little bump. Not King's fault he ballsed it up and KO'd himself.

well played sir

 

[seanoff]

Ahhh an "unlisted" person telling us the rights and wrongs of the AFL world. So you're accusing us of "squealing" about Xavier Clarke and yet you're condeming King for exactly the same action. Top work.

Take your opinions elsewhere hypocrite.

look the squealing about X got the rules changed. so even tho West got off (wrongly in my opinion as it was a cheap shot as well) it effected a change in the rules. AFL mea culpa

but don't whinge when the rule change that came from it bites back.

as to my unlisted status, i'm from darwin, nearest AFL club is Brisbane and they've done **** All up here and the Bullies are only here for the money. for many years the only person to take any interest up here was sheeds. so i'm a sheedy supporter in that case, not Essendon or Richmond, sheeds.

look to your left at the club under unlisted. you might recognise it. there are 3 players from your list on it. thus i was aware of Xavier and Raph long before you ever heard of them and had a sibling coach them as u14s/U16s for St Mary's. my first footy memory is Xavier Snr winning a GF for Saints in Darwin in the dying seconds.

as an aside none of you here or on saintsational would have any idea who or what Choo Choo is without me going out of my way to put up video.

so get your hand off it. King did the wrong thing and is getting whacked, this happens.

 

[It Was A Good Day]

i can promise you i'm not.

sometimes you have to put your hand up and say i did wrong and cop it.

Why are you so dumb?

and why cant you commit to a real football side instead of a pretend one in Darwin that sends down a few players once every blue moon.

 

[StFly]

Why are you so dumb?

and why cant you commit to a real football side instead of a pretend one in Darwin that sends down a few players once every blue moon.

Better question would be while most everyone else is debating the severity of the decision as opposed to the fact that he is copping it, why do we suddenly need to be told that he needs to cop it?

Must be licking toads that one...

 

[Persevering Saint]

Easy guys, I can vouch somewhat for seanoff. He's not a gutless unlisted, he's an unbiased unlisted, who loves his footy, and has more than a healthy soft spot for the Saints, not least because of the Clarkes and Tugga.

Look, I will defend King to some extent because he's a Saint. But I'll also be honest. If the roles were reversed, and it was, say, McIntosh on Geary, and he got 4 weeks, I probably would nod my head, and say, "harsh, but fair... don't need those kind of injuries in the game."

I think claims that King was headhunting are unfounded and insulting. I do however admit that he was trying to roughly stop the player, probably went a bit too far, was also clumsy in how he did it, and caused a nasty injury to somebody's head... and all of that, with previous points from here and there in the past, well, mean 4 is not out of the realms of fair - it's on the harsher side of fair, but still fair.

I'm all for defending our own, but let's be willing to take it on the chin. Nothing looks worse than constantly having martyr-complexes that the umpires, the tribunal, the league, the earth's rotation is all out to get us. It makes us look embarrassing, and just kinda measly. When it's Whispers, or Sirengate, okay, but seriously, I just find the conspiracy theory stuff makes us look like we always play victim.

We're better than that. We're prouder than that, fellas. Let's show some dignity, and say what King himself is probably saying - "oops, probably went a bit far there... bit harsh on one level to get 4, but hey, probably fair in the end, I can take that."

 

[seanoff]

Why are you so dumb?

and why cant you commit to a real football side instead of a pretend one in Darwin that sends down a few players once every blue moon.

lets not make this bad for st kilda now. Saints in Darwin make significantly more money and have a significantly better asset position so does that make St Kilda a pretend side.

stop sooking and pick your targets better, both club wise and personally.

 

[It Was A Good Day]

lets not make this bad for st kilda now. Saints in Darwin make significantly more money and have a significantly better asset position so does that make St Kilda a pretend side.

stop sooking and pick your targets better, both club wise and personally.

Saints in Darwin are woeful.

Lets just leave this now - you are glad kingy got 4 weeks and I am ****ing pissed off.

Run along back to the St Mary's board now... o wait....

 

[Look2Me4Guidance]

Look, I will defend King to some extent because he's a Saint. But I'll also be honest. If the roles were reversed, and it was, say, McIntosh on Geary, and he got 4 weeks, I probably would nod my head, and say, "harsh, but fair... don't need those kind of injuries in the game."

It doesn't excuse the lack of consistency though Perc. That is my biggest beef. I would also wager the House of Guidance that if Geary collected Power in the same way......he would have received 2 weeks maximum.

 

[It Was A Good Day]

It doesn't excuse the lack of consistency though Perc. That is my biggest beef. I would also wager the House of Guidance that if Geary collected Power in the same way......he would have received 2 weeks maximum.

Plugger and Spider killed any chance the Saints have of getting a fair go at the tribunal.

Hit a saint you get off. Get hit by a saint and watch them fall.

These are my favourites.

Hall hits Goose in front of every camera in the ground then gets off.

Baker is suspected of hurting farmer but is not seen by any umpire or camera - gets 7 weeks.

The only time when Mooney gets off is when he trips Montagna - got a reprimand.

West does a kingy on Clarke - as discussed b4.

 

[seanoff]

Saints in Darwin are woeful.

Lets just leave this now - you are glad kingy got 4 weeks and I am ****ing pissed off.

Run along back to the St Mary's board now... o wait....

you have no idea do you. none at all. not a clue.


i'm not glad he got 4 weeks, i'm completely ambivalent. he might be a top notch bloke, or a complete tosser. i have no idea.

was it cheap, yes, did he take a player out of the game, yes, did he injure the guy, yes, was power effecting the contest, no. did King get whacked for it, yes, was the whacking according to the rules, yes.

 

[It Was A Good Day]

you have no idea do you. none at all. not a clue.


i'm not glad he got 4 weeks, i'm completely ambivalent. he might be a top notch bloke, or a complete tosser. i have no idea.

was it cheap, yes, did he take a player out of the game, yes, did he injure the guy, yes, was power effecting the contest, no. did King get whacked for it, yes, was the whacking according to the rules, yes.

Ok.. **** off now dust farmer.

 

[newcs]

Kingy was and still is a very respected person amongst all Geelong supporters. He was very hard done by on this occasion, I sought of wonder if this harsh penalty is a payback because he got away with the Jeff White incident, and maybe even his speccy over the goal umpire. One thing that can definetely be said about the MRP is that they are consistantly being inconsistant.
The other disappointing thing about this is that we won't see Mark Blake continue his little grudge match against Kingy, maybe next game.

 

[Squizz]

i'm a sheedy supporter in that case, not Essendon or Richmond, sheeds.

thus i was aware of Xavier and Raph long before you ever heard of them and had a sibling coach them as u14s/U16s for St Mary's. my first footy memory is Xavier Snr winning a GF for Saints in Darwin in the dying seconds.

as an aside none of you here or on saintsational would have any idea who or what Choo Choo is without me going out of my way to put up video.

I haven't minded your input in the past, but you should avoid taking the high ground. We've seen other players before you, but that doesn't mean you can't discuss them now just as we do.

I hate Sheedy (I dislike other members of his family too BTW), so you lost me there.

 

[Squizz]

One thing that can definetely be said about the MRP is that they are consistantly being inconsistant.

That's the thing I can't respect about the system - Maxwell runs past the ball and breaks someone's jaw, and King has a head clash (that was clearly unintentional unless you are someone who refuses to look at the video properly).

I wouldn't have minded 4 weeks if there was any hint of King lifting his arm to catch Power high. There wasn't and I can only imagine that Baker would've got life if he'd done the same thing - and the death penalty if there was no footage.

 

[domiroo]

I'm sorry I can't contribute to this thread anymore, due to the infractions I've received over the past couple of days I'm now on holiday.

GO SAINTS!

 

[sainter]

I haven't minded your input in the past, but you should avoid taking the high ground. We've seen other players before you, but that doesn't mean you can't discuss them now just as we do.

I hate Sheedy (I dislike other members of his family too BTW), so you lost me there.

Well said Squizzy.

Seanoff I've appreciated your input to our board in the past and that's why I allowed your argument with It Was A Good Day to continue for so long but what you have to understand is that this is a St Kilda board for St Kilda supporters. You may not agree what our supporters have to say, but this is the place where our supporters should feel free to say whatever they like about our club without fear of others taking issue with them. That's what the main board and Bay 13 are for.

If you go to the Umpires and MRP board you're far more likely to get a reasoned debate. When you start criticising our players on our board you're welcome is always going to become shortlived.