Steven May hits Francis Evans

[El_Scorcho]

The way the ball was bouncing, there was only one way for BOTH May and Evans to approach it, and that was full tilt.

Otherwise, they would have simply been conceding possession of the ball to the opposition player.

Your football philosophy is dumb.

May went full tilt and was still second to the ball, which he would have completely missed had Evans not already taken possession anyway because he'd failed to account for the bounce of the ball, and he wasn't able to impact the contest legally because of his dumb approach.

If he'd slowed down fractionally he might have been able to tackle Evans and cause a stoppage instead of hurting his team by giving away a free kick and getting suspended.

I'm sure most teammates would rather see their teammate force a stoppage after being second to the ball instead of hurting a bloke, giving away a free and getting suspended?

 

[Jim Cricket]

McLean from Sydney was KO'd tonight. Taylor attacked the pack, jumping into Buckley's back and hitting his head with his arm, forcing Buckley's head into McLean's. He was trying to spoil but didn't touch the ball. Taylor should have foreseen that what he did could cause injury. Shouldn't he? In a different scenario he might have made a decent contribution to the contest by effecting a spoil, but he didn't, all he did was cause the head clash.

So how many weeks?

 

[Fadge]

Your football philosophy is dumb.

May went full tilt and was still second to the ball, which he would have completely missed had Evans not already taken possession anyway because he'd failed to account for the bounce of the ball, and he wasn't able to impact the contest legally because of his dumb approach.

If he'd slowed down fractionally he might have been able to tackle Evans and cause a stoppage instead of hurting his team by giving away a free kick and getting suspended.

I'm sure most teammates would rather see their teammate force a stoppage after being second to the ball instead of hurting a bloke, giving away a free and getting suspended?

Yes.

May was second to the ball despite going full tilt, because Evans was first to the ball as he was also going full tilt, and received the favourable bounce.

Which is the way two AFL players would and should approach that contest EVERY SINGLE TIME.

And May wouldn't have missed the ball if Evans wasn't there. He would have collected it quite easily.

 

[Fadge]

McLean from Sydney was KO'd tonight. Taylor attacked the pack, jumping into Buckley's back and hitting his head with his arm, forcing Buckley's head into McLean's. He was trying to spoil but didn't touch the ball. Taylor should have foreseen that what he did could cause injury. Shouldn't he? In a different scenario he might have made a decent contribution to the contest by effecting a spoil, but he didn't, all he did was cause the head clash.

So how many weeks?

Interested to hear your thoughts, RCAB and El_Scorcho

 

[RCAB]

McLean from Sydney was KO'd tonight. Taylor attacked the pack, jumping into Buckley's back and hitting his head with his arm, forcing Buckley's head into McLean's. He was trying to spoil but didn't touch the ball. Taylor should have foreseen that what he did could cause injury. Shouldn't he? In a different scenario he might have made a decent contribution to the contest by effecting a spoil, but he didn't, all he did was cause the head clash.

So how many weeks?

I saw the McClean KO... These incidents are NOTHING alike

 

[PenfoldsFan]

McLean from Sydney was KO'd tonight. Taylor attacked the pack, jumping into Buckley's back and hitting his head with his arm, forcing Buckley's head into McLean's. He was trying to spoil but didn't touch the ball. Taylor should have foreseen that what he did could cause injury. Shouldn't he? In a different scenario he might have made a decent contribution to the contest by effecting a spoil, but he didn't, all he did was cause the head clash.

So how many weeks?

Marking contest yeah?

So like the DBJ concussion, that was also a marking contest I believe, they wont sanction that because it'll kill the pack mark/speccy/high fly.

 

[Fadge]

I saw the McClean KO... These incidents are NOTHING alike

Why not?

 

[RCAB]

Why not?

Are the sun and the moon the same thing?

 

[Jim Cricket]

I saw the McClean KO... These incidents are NOTHING alike

Marking contest yeah?

So like the DBJ concussion, that was also a marking contest I believe, they wont sanction that because it'll kill the pack mark/speccy/high fly.

In both this incident and the May incident the offenders were both trying to get to the ball, attacking the contest, didn't get there and caused head injuries to opposition players.

In both incidents they could have foreseen that their actions could cause injury, if that's the AFL's reasoning for May's suspension. I get that it was a marking contest in Taylor's case, except he wasn't attempting to mark at all.

I don't think either case deserves a sanction but if one was suspended because he should have foreseen that injury could occur with two players running into each other (duh!) what should the other player have foreseen, especially as he's running into a pack leading with his fist and elbow at head height, which is the case in almost every spoil?

You could also make a case that considering a player from his own team was in front of him doing the same as him Taylor didn't need to be involved at all and as it turned out he had no effect on the contest apart from causing the injury. Even the guy who was knocked out, McLean, went the spoil. Three spoilers and no markers in a marking contest? That's two more than required and maybe three more considering nobody was actually going for the mark.

By the way, if May should have taken action to avoid the collision so should have Evans, considering this -

"Evans, who lost a tooth and was left bloodied and bruised, conceded to the tribunal that he didn’t think he was going to get to the ball before May, adding to the confusion over the ban."

EDIT: I'm not usually a predictor but I predict May's suspension will be overturned.

 

[420]

Marking contest yeah?

So like the DBJ concussion, that was also a marking contest I believe, they wont sanction that because it'll kill the pack mark/speccy/high fly.

Don't kill the speccy but kill the hard ball? lame, games gone

 

[Jugada]

I love how the argument is he just hit him in the head and caused injury end of discussion. Player has to do better. Until we get another example where that isn't the end of the discussion at all lol

I can't stand Steven May

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as much as the next bloke but have to think some are adding a fair bit of shit bloke tax to this discussion

 

[RCAB]

Your brains are broken.

Comparing a spoil where Taylor is getting held and looking only at the ball, gets to the ball first, while McLean goes backwards into the pack and out of view....


Vs.


May lining someone up by making a beeline for Evans at full pace and taking them out... Has to be the stupidest I've seen posted on the MRP ever.

One rightly got three weeks, the other is a complete accident.

Do you guys have a drivers licence, because if I was your family, I'd be worried.

 

[ReturningHawk]

The way the ball was bouncing, there was only one way for BOTH May and Evans to approach it, and that was full tilt.

Otherwise, they would have simply been conceding possession of the ball to the opposition player.

See Archer v Cleary. This ship has sailed. Approach at high speed, lose control, miss the ball, knock out your opponent - it's not good enough anymore.

 

[Fadge]

See Archer v Cleary. This ship has sailed. Approach at high speed, lose control, miss the ball, knock out your opponent - it's not good enough anymore.

It's the decision that's wrong, not the way the players approached the ball.

Greg Swann will sort it out.

 

[ReturningHawk]

It's the decision that's wrong, not the way the players approached the ball.

Greg Swann will sort it out.

Greg Swann has yet to read through the thousands of emails detailing how past players and their families will band together to sue the living crap out of the AFL for negligence around head trauma. I wouldn't get my hopes up for meat-heads like May and Maynard.

 

[Jim Cricket]

Greg Swann has yet to read through the thousands of emails detailing how past players and their families will band together to sue the living crap out of the AFL for negligence around head trauma. I wouldn't get my hopes up for meat-heads like May and Maynard.

But McLean getting KO'd is ok because it's not head trauma and wasn't preventable. Got it.

 

[Jim Cricket]

Your brains are broken.

Comparing a spoil where Taylor is getting held and looking only at the ball, gets to the ball first, while McLean goes backwards into the pack and out of view....


Vs.


May lining someone up by making a beeline for Evans at full pace and taking them out... Has to be the stupidest I've seen posted on the MRP ever.

One rightly got three weeks, the other is a complete accident.

Do you guys have a drivers licence, because if I was your family, I'd be worried.

Taylor got to the ball first? He didn't even get to the ball at all. He did, however, get to his teammate's head first. Actually footballs and heads are similar shape and size so I'll give you that.

And McLean came in from the opposite direction? Sounds similar to the May incident yeah? The reason McLean may have been out of Taylor's view (which I don't buy at all, plus who was Taylor spoiling then?) would be because there was already a teammate ahead of him doing the same thing he was attempting, except the teammate succeeded and then copped a shoulder to the head (sounds similar to the May incident yeah?) for his troubles.

 

[ReturningHawk]

But McLean getting KO'd is ok because it's not head trauma and wasn't preventable. Got it.

If you can't spot the differences between these two incidents, nobody can help you.

 

[Fadge]

If you can't spot the differences between these two incidents, nobody can help you.

Convenient narrative.

But hypocritical.

 

[WilloTree]

Why? 413 players on the weekend managed to figure our how to play without hitting their opponent in the head, no need to change a rule for the One who couldn't.

Accurate way of putting it mate.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Why? 413 players on the weekend managed to figure our how to play without hitting their opponent in the head, no need to change a rule for the One who couldn't.

What??

Only 1 player was hit in the head during an entire round of footy?

 

[T2B_]

I throught Mclean was more the unfortunate head hitting the ground when he went down than the stray arm itself.

Anyway yeah not even remotely similar incidents so don't know why its brought up.

 

[sherb]

Your brains are broken.

Comparing a spoil where Taylor is getting held and looking only at the ball, gets to the ball first, while McLean goes backwards into the pack and out of view....


Vs.


May lining someone up by making a beeline for Evans at full pace and taking them out... Has to be the stupidest I've seen posted on the MRP ever.

One rightly got three weeks, the other is a complete accident.

Do you guys have a drivers licence, because if I was your family, I'd be worried.

I've watched this incident repeatedly, and I'm still struggling to see how so many posters are arriving at the view that May was going for the ball.

 

[El_Scorcho]

I've watched this incident repeatedly, and I'm still struggling to see how so many posters are arriving at the view that May was going for the ball.

He was initially, no doubt, but he misjudged the contest and he'd already committed to going too hard into the contest, knowing Evans was there, couldn't adjust and smashed him in the face.

99.9% of the time a player slows down a bit in that situation because of the unknown of the bounce and the opponent, May didn't and gets a 3 week holiday.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Can count on one hand the amount of times I've agreed with Derm on something. Add this to that small list.