Autopsy SUNS @ Hawthorn - Sat 23rd June

[Peel67skin]

Time for changes

Out
Young
Holman
Risca

In
?

 

[SnusCG]

I dont know if Holman was poor enough to warrant omission, but I just dont want him anywhere near the midfield. doesn't find anywhere near enough of the pill.
We actually just NEED Barlow to come back. He's our only genuine clearance winner at this point. Not sure where he's at in regards to injury though

Out: Bowes, Young, Day
In: Wright, Brodie, Spencer

 

[GcSunsfan]

I dont know if Holman was poor enough to warrant omission, but I just dont want him anywhere near the midfield. doesn't find anywhere near enough of the pill.
We actually just NEED Barlow to come back. He's our only genuine clearance winner at this point. Not sure where he's at in regards to injury though

Out: Bowes, Young, Day
In: Wright, Brodie, Spencer

Yeah that was one of Holman's better game for us he keeps his spot this week.

I would only make two changes

Rischitelli and Day

 

[Mini GF]

Out: Primus, Prescott, Stone
In: Choco Williams, Voss, Roos

 

[Peel67skin]

Out: Primus, Prescott, Stone
In: Choco Williams, Voss, Roos

Out Chocco Williams ,voss
In : McVeigh , shaun burgoyne

 

[Cochblocked]

In: Wright, Brodie, Barlow (if he's fit)
Out: Bowes (injury), Day, Rischa

 

[Peel67skin]

I dont know if Holman was poor enough to warrant omission, but I just dont want him anywhere near the midfield. doesn't find anywhere near enough of the pill.
We actually just NEED Barlow to come back. He's our only genuine clearance winner at this point. Not sure where he's at in regards to injury though

Out: Bowes, Young, Day
In: Wright, Brodie, Spencer

Holman I don't know , sometime you just don't want him to get too many touches because of his kicking and turnover , but looking at the list there are no one left to play apart from Powell,nutting and Jaska .

 

[CanYouFeelTheSunburn]

In: Brodie, Wright, KK ( I can dream can't I? )
Out: Young, Rischa, Bowes (injury)

 

[Peel67skin]

Unleash Ablett pick Powell for Holman.

 

[Sunraysia]

Holman I don't know , sometime you just don't want him to get too many touches because of his kicking and turnover , but looking at the list there are no one left to play apart from Powell,nutting and Jaska .

Think you need to check stats - who is the highest turnover player for the Suns ?
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tr-gold-coast-suns?year=2018&rt=TA&st=TO
Holman is way down the list....

 

[Basssman]

Dawson should get a run soon you would think


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[SandyToes]

Think you need to check stats - who is the highest turnover player for the Suns ? https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tr-gold-coast-suns?year=2018&rt=TA&st=TO
Interestingly Holman is way down the list...

Those stats are slightly misleading IMO
It should be TO's per disposal
If you're only getting 5 touches and turning it over 5 times I'm worried
If you're getting 50 and turning it over 5 times meh
Holman's TO's are about the same per disposal- most of the mids turn it over 20-25% of the time
OTOH Jesse Joyce does it about 10-15% of the time which is no doubt why he is a walk up start

 

[Sunraysia]

Those stats are slightly misleading IMO
It should be TO's per disposal
If you're only getting 5 touches and turning it over 5 times I'm worried
If you're getting 50 and turning it over 5 times meh

So lets go total turnovers
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tr-gold-coast-suns?year=2018&rt=TT&st=TO
Bottom line - Holman not a turnover problem..

 

[SandyToes]

So lets go total turnovers
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tr-gold-coast-suns?year=2018&rt=TT&st=TO
Bottom line - Holman not a turnover problem..

Depends where you're doing it
No surprises the turnover King by my metric is Sexton

 

[Peel67skin]

Think you need to check stats - who is the highest turnover player for the Suns ?
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tr-gold-coast-suns?year=2018&rt=TA&st=TO
Holman is way down the list....

Should mention Turn over that impact opposition scoring goal or kicking /handball to teammates under extreme pressure and cause a turnover .

 

[Camsta]

Out: Day, Bowes, Young
In: Wright, Brodie, Powell

Holman really impressed me Sat night - great tackler and got into about 3 fights. We need to develop a hard nosed thug and he might be it.

 

[sunsofanarchy]

Someone explain to me the argument for picking Day?

 

[Mini GF]

Can the spelling of Hawks in the thread title be fixed please?
It’s eating away at me.

 

[Ben Drever]

Did Day play on the weekend?
Didnt see him.
If thats the case. Be gone.

Your not running to the right spots.
Need to learn the game plan and find your strengths in the NEAFL

 

[Sunraysia]

Depends where you're doing it
No surprises the turnover King by my metric is Sexton

Please explain your metric - my thinking average turnovers per game measures it …?

 

[eppo67]

Did Day play on the weekend?
Didnt see him.
If thats the case. Be gone.

Your not running to the right spots.
Need to learn the game plan and find your strengths in the NEAFL

I got the shock of my life when l saw Rischitelli after the game. I honestly had no idea he was playing.
He is the most overcooked player l've ever seen.

 

[Peel67skin]

Please explain your metric - my thinking average turnovers per game measures it …?

Just look at average effective disposal .
Number of game and what position played , Thompson got the lowest which was understandable consider he play more of a lock down backline role .

 

[SnusCG]

Sam day this year has already had 6 goalless games out of 11 played

2MP last year in 22 games only had 3 goalless games.

Being absolutely shafted by not being in the team already

 

[Sunraysia]

Just look at average effective disposal .
Number of game and what position played , Thompson got the lowest which was understandable consider he play more of a lock down backline role .

So you guys are talking disposal efficiency - that's way different than turnovers....

 

[Peel67skin]

So you guys are talking disposal efficiency - that's way different than turnovers....

Can't really measure to be honest, momentum killer , handball to kicking ratio , too many factor to consider , IMO Holman and Young have enough chance to show what they are capable of in 12 AFL games they have played this season ,time to go back to NEAFL and improve their skills.

If Barlow and Lyons B grade play in NeAfl can't see why C+ grade Holman and Young Not .