Take Note AFC Coaching Staff!!!

[Bicks]

The reason Mick Malthouse >>> Neil Craig, simple really, he PLANS for the future!!!
MM has the courage and confidence to "blood" his youngsters far earlier in their development than the AFC, clearly also puts the older players on "notice", to perform at all times or else their expendable.....

Please take heed AFC....

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mick-malthouses-young-talent-time/story-e6frf9jf-1225867228167

Mick Malthouse's young talent time



COLLINGWOOD will continue to rotate its veterans through the VFL this year to help build the experience of its most precious young talents.

Coach Michael Malthouse said there was a big-picture selection policy involved in the curious move to select young defenders Ben Reid and Nathan Brown ahead of Simon Prestigiacomo and Josh Fraser for Friday night's win over Fremantle.
Malthouse said the veteran talls were available for selection against Geelong on Friday night, but could not guarantee either would play, as the Pies tried to develop their young players with big-game exposure.
"It's not even a form thing," he said. "We need to expose Brown and Reid to senior football

 

[SugarHealey]

The reason Mick Malthouse >>> Neil Craig, simple really, he PLANS for the future!!!
MM has the courage and confidence to "blood" his youngsters far earlier in their development than the AFC, clearly also puts the older players on "notice", to perform at all times or else their expendable.....

Please take heed AFC....

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mick-malthouses-young-talent-time/story-e6frf9jf-1225867228167

I couldn't believe how poorly the Crows seemed to have played yesterday. I thought they were onto the path forward after their team meeting the other week!
But yesterday? And then the last quarter they steamed home only to FAIL again. Is the Coach trying to have a top up from the draft this year?

Is he deliberately preparing them badly? Whats going on, they're better than this?

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

I recall Craigy saying 2 years ago that Collingwood was the benchmark for young player development and Adelaide will strive to be the best when it comes down to the development of young players

Hmmmm

 

[oldcrowgirl]

I wonder if we need to look to Port for a possible solution to assisting our young blokes come to grips with AFL. Their appointment of Gary Hocking as Development Coach is an inspired idea. as coach of the Geelong Falcons, 15 of his players were drafted to the AFL in 2006, 7, 8. http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/learning-to-fly-20091124-j5ds.html

To balance the old boy's club of assistant coaches and senior players, an assistant to oversee the development of the recruits is a must. If someone has such a role now, they need to go.

As an adjunct to such an appointment it would be good to see 2 of our current assistants go now.

 

[Tas]

Yet Collingwood are going to get rid of him end of next year, amazing, isn't it?

 

[King Elvis]

Yet Collingwood are going to get rid of him end of next year, amazing, isn't it?

Love them or hate them, it's a very, very gutsy decision. Will either be a masterstroke in securing Buckley, or a disaster.

 

[swanfan]

Huge difference, Malthouse takes out all the scientific bullshit out of footy and gets his team to play the game. Craig analyzes it scientifically down to the last common denominator

 

[oldcrowgirl]

Suddenly dawned on me:

Development Manager
Peter Jonas

Development Coach
Alan Stewart

Assistant to Football Development
Darel Hart

What do these guys do? Are their roles different from what hocking does at Port? are they doing a different job or are they simply the wrong people in the development job?

 

[tiggsy]

I'm surprised to see Darel Hart in any sort of development or coaching role. Although I thought he may be a decent coach, the evidence at North Adelaide was to the contrary. The other thing that really stuck out when you heard him speak was that he was incredibly negative. More inclined to give a bake and rarely praised his players (not that the Roosters deserved much praise the way they played under Hart). From what I saw of him as the coach of the Roosters both in terms of their onfield performance and his comments afterwards in the club rooms, I'd be keeping him away from the kids!

 

[Tas]

Love them or hate them, it's a very, very gutsy decision. Will either be a masterstroke in securing Buckley, or a disaster.

Yeah, I know Collingwood were in a bad position as we were keen on getting Buckley and the pies didn't want to lose him. It will either be a masterstroke or a disaster, I think that is in part the problem, especially with the Pies doing so well of late.

 

[taylor_walker_13]

Glad someone posted this (I was going to) shows a good coach in modern day football is proactive rather than reactive, I would love Matlhouse at the AFC.

Listening to the radio last night they spoke to Craig I have some major concerns he has lost the players as he said the players werent listening but then in the next breath couldnt even explain his own game plan, to me he and the players are lost, and that exactly how they played last night......LOST

 

[jenny61_99]

Huge difference, Malthouse takes out all the scientific bullshit out of footy and gets his team to play the game. Craig analyzes it scientifically down to the last common denominator

And they've won how many premierships under him?

 

[western royboy]

Guys I have no idea what is going on in crowland but based on all of the above. Some observations.

1. The guys in your developmental roles are all very old, I know you have Bicks and Ben Hart as Assistants with Viney, but you seem to lack someone fresh out of the game in the developmental area.

2. To replicate the Malthouse development system you need to have control of all your players, not farming them to SANFL clubs willy nilly. The best thing for both Crows and Port would be to field standalone sides in the SANFL, like everyone else. Sadly this is unlikely to ever happen. The Collingwood VFL team is focussed purely on developing players for the AFL. As a Pies hater I am envioius of their depth of talented kids that they have on standby ready to go. Playing in the SANFL 2's for Sturt can't help you. Mark my words Collingwood will be around the mark for awhile - such is their depth.

3. Could Carl Spackler really have a direct line into all those meetings?

4. Neil Craig appears tired and unable to lift the group. It would appear time for a change in direction.

5. For what it's worth the mix of Blight (Football Genius & Left Field Thinker) combined with Craig's sport science bent was a perferct fit. For now you need to get back to the football side for awhile.

 

[taylor_walker_13]

And they've won how many premierships under him?

Been alot more of a finals success than what the AFC have been.

 

[ringo200]

I recall Craigy saying 2 years ago that Collingwood was the benchmark for young player development and Adelaide will strive to be the best when it comes down to the development of young players

Hmmmm

It's interesting that he would come out and say something like that and then take almost completely the opposite approach to developing young players.

MM has always shown immense faith in the young guys, often giving them critical roles right from their first game, while a first gamer under Craig is lucky to get 60% game time after spending a year and a half in the SANFL.

 

[SugarHealey]

It's interesting that he would come out and say something like that and then take almost completely the opposite approach to developing young players.

MM has always shown immense faith in the young guys, often giving them critical roles right from their first game, while a first gamer under Craig is lucky to get 60% game time after spending a year and a half in the SANFL.

Is it the Coach taking the risk with giving players the responsibility, so you say Malthouse takes the risk, expecting the kids to live up to the expectations?
Is Craig Not?
I know one thing, the Pies supporters scream blues murder when things aren't going well & demand things happen.
I thought you guys might be upset when I came to look see what your thoughts are, but I must admit you seem quite OK with being down the ladder. I picked your team as a top 4 side in my predictions .

Are they going to improve, or stay down?
My tips are taking a hammering & I need to change tack.

 

[ringo200]

Is it the Coach taking the risk with giving players the responsibility, so you say Malthouse takes the risk, expecting the kids to live up to the expectations?
Is Craig Not?
I know one thing, the Pies supporters scream blues murder when things aren't going well & demand things happen.
I thought you guys might be upset when I came to look see what your thoughts are, but I must admit you seem quite OK with being down the ladder. I picked your team as a top 4 side in my predictions .

Are they going to improve, or stay down?
My tips are taking a hammering & I need to change tack.

I don't know how you came up with this bit, there's a lot of negativity on this board at the moment, and deservedly so.

Yes I do think MM is prepared to take the risk and back in his youngsters more so than most AFL coaches and I do think that Craig is one of the coaches least likely to do that.

As for your tipping, unless we're playing Richmond steer clear of tipping us.

 

[Crow-mo]

Yes I do think MM is prepared to take the risk and back in his youngsters more so than most AFL coaches and I do think that Craig is one of the coaches least likely to do that.

in 2008, against us collingwood fielded the youngest team to win a final in 10 years.

 

[jenny61_99]

Been alot more of a finals success than what the AFC have been.

And they've won HOW MANY PREMIERSHIPS under him?

 

[relapse]

And they've won HOW MANY PREMIERSHIPS under him?

He took them to 2 grand finals and with St Kilda's current form they would be favourites at the moment to be playing geelong in the granny this year.

We have to stop trying to overate Craig as a coach, even if Malthouse hasnt won a flag at the pies you would be hard pressed to find anyone that would believe that he is on a level footing as a senior coach as Neil Craig.

 

[Interceptor]

In last year's finals Collingwood scraped by us, but also lost comprehensively to St Kilda and were thrashed by Geelong in the Prelim. In the prelim plenty of their "star" forwards failed miserably -something that reflects somewhat back on their coach.

Collingwood have also missed the finals 3 times under Malthouse.
Craig may be over-rated, but Malthouse isn't the super coach some think he is.

 

[relapse]

In last year's finals Collingwood scraped by us, but also lost comprehensively to St Kilda and were thrashed by Geelong in the Prelim. In the prelim plenty of their "star" forwards failed miserably -something that reflects somewhat back on their coach.

Collingwood have also missed the finals 3 times under Malthouse.
Craig may be over-rated, but Malthouse isn't the super coach some think he is.

Their side is significantly younger than ours and they have clearly improved this year while we have gone backwards at a rate of knots.

 

[Crow-mo]

And they've won HOW MANY PREMIERSHIPS under him?

well that's a bit of a pointless statement. unless you think Craig has been no more successful than Dean Bailey.

Genuine challenges for the flag are the standard.

 

[Crow-mo]

In last year's finals Collingwood scraped by us, but also lost comprehensively to St Kilda and were thrashed by Geelong in the Prelim. In the prelim plenty of their "star" forwards failed miserably -something that reflects somewhat back on their coach.

Collingwood have also missed the finals 3 times under Malthouse.
Craig may be over-rated, but Malthouse isn't the super coach some think he is.

Collingwood have missed the finals 3 times under malthouse.

given how long he has been there, and what he took over you should be his publicist

 

[NTRabbit]

The reason Mick Malthouse >>> Neil Craig, simple really, he PLANS for the future!!!
MM has the courage and confidence to "blood" his youngsters far earlier in their development than the AFC, clearly also puts the older players on "notice", to perform at all times or else their expendable.....

Please take heed AFC....

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mick-malthouses-young-talent-time/story-e6frf9jf-1225867228167

Malthouse plays them when they are ready, and drops them when they don't perform.

So do we.

The difference is more of theirs are ready, and more of ours do not perform.

Either they have better recruitment staff, or a better development staff and pathway, not much else to it than that.