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This is my first go at a mock draft. It is very rough and sketchy, and I certainly don't feel 100% confident that I am correct in any of these selections. What I have tried to do, however, is match players to clubs to the best of my ability. I am hopefully going for accuracy, and not so much on how I rate these players myself.

There are enough very detailed write ups on each of these players on these boards, so I decided to simply justify the selection rather than describe the players. For a more detailed analysis of each player's game, I refer the reader to either Quigley's, Chris25's, or Knightmare's mock drafts.

1. GWS - Lachie Whitfield
Whitfield will add that classy outside mid to the Giant's plethora of hardball winning midfielders.
He is definitely a needed player for GWS if they want to match teams like Gold Coast and Richmond in the future for spread and devilivery into the forward line. Whitfield hitting up targets like Cameron and Patton over the years could be very dangerous indeed.

2. GWS - Troy Menzel
In my opinion, GWS will take either Plowman or Menzel with this pick, however, seeing as either Plowman or Corr could easily be around at picks 12 and 14, if I were GWS, I'd take Menzel at three as he could add that class medium forward to their list to compliment Patton and Cameron.

3. GWS - Jimmy Toumpas
The same reasoning as Whitfield applies to Menzel. Would be a classy ball user that would play an outside role that GWS are in need of to compliment their tough midfielders. This selection is based on GWS still aiming to sign Kurt Tippett, if that falls through, they could take Grundy here instead.

4. Melbourne – Ollie Wines
Will provide a lot of grunt to the Melbourne midfield. Wines and Viney could be the new Trengrove and Scully, the talented midfielders from the same draft that the club could build around for years to come. Let's hope it works out better for them than Trengrove and Scully.

5. Western Bulldogs – Kristian Jaksch
It may not happen, but I see Western Bulldogs have their biggest deficiencies in their talls at either end. It just so happens that Jaksch can play footy at either end, and he is one of the more exciting talls in the draft. If I were Western Bulldogs, I would definitely looking very hard at Jaksch here, and if not, possibly even Brodie Grundy.

6. Western Bulldogs - Jonathan O'Rourke
Good both inside and out, O'Rourke would really compliment the Bulldog's exciting midfield talent and could help form a very solid core of mids in years to come.

7. Port Adelaide – Brodie Grundy
Really tough call for Port here, but Grundy would compliment their list brilliantly. In my opinion, Port already have a great group of young mids in Boak, Hartlett and Wingard. Their young ruck division is lacking a little, and Grundy is one of the better ruck prospects to come through in recent years. Could also help out the forwards nicely. Could be definitely be a player to build a team around. Being local is a bonus.

8. Brisbane – Lachie Plowman
Arguably their most needed player who is left at this pick. Would take Jaksch if still available, but if Plowman drops this far, I think Brisbane will swoop.

9. Richmond - Jackson Macrae
Macrea would be a brilliant fit for Richmond, in my opinion. I have him slightly sliding on my draft. Would help form a very solid core of midfielders for Richmond over the coming years. A midfield that could compete with GWS and Gold Coast's in four years time, with Maric, Martin, Macrae, Cotchin, Conca, and a bunch of solid depth players.

10. Essendon – Joe Daniher
F/S selection, tipped to be the best player in the draft.

11. Carlton – Sam Mayes
I really like Carlton's list, and pretty much agree with Malthouse's assessment that it doesn't have any glaring holes it needs to immediately fill. So, in that respect Mayes is a perfect fit. He can play a number of roles really well, and would certainly add a lot to Carlton's list for years to come. Could play almost anywhere on the ground, a bit like a Brendon Goddard, so would be the perfect fodder for some of the aging players who will be retiring over the next few years like Scotland, Carrazo, and Waite.

12. GWS – Nick Vlastuin
I like Vlaustin at this pick for GWS because, like Menzel, he is a versatile player who can go fill a variety of needs for GWS. He can play midfield or back, and although GWS primarily need a key defender, I think GWS can afford to pass on one at this stage because Clurey and Corr are still available, and their next pick is 14.

13. Gold Coast - Nathan Hrovat
A tough decision for Gold Coast here. Lonergan, Simpson, and Hrovat are the guys they will be looking at in this pick. For mine, Simpson isn't a needed player for Gold Coast as they have plenty of similar players, so it would be between Lonergan and Hrovat. I have chosen Hrovat because he is a ball winning machine, which is exactly what Gold Coast need. His short stature and lack of elite athleticism won't worry GC as much as other clubs.

14. GWS – Aiden Corr
I mainly only chose him over Clurey because he has been linked so strongly to GWS. Otherwise I would have gone with Clurey. Both are very athletic tall defenders who will fill a much needed role at GWS.

15. North Melbourne - Jake Stringer
Another list that has not many deficiencies, North could probably be very tempted by Stringer despite some concerns over his recovery from a serious broken leg. Would give them an strong replacement for the talls they lost during the trade period. They have a lot of depth in their ball winning midfielders, and their ruck, backline, and tall forwards are all very solid. However, Stringer could form a very dangerous partnership with Drew Petrie in the coming years.

16. Geelong - Jesse Lonergan
A lot has been made of Geelong's clearance issues this year, Jesse could provide that hard bodied and explosive ball winning support to help Geelong be more competitive in that area over the coming years. While he is not the most skilled mid in the draft, his strength and athleticism means that he has plenty of upside and would compliment Geelong's mids perfectly.

17. Fremantle - Josh Simpson
This is the hardest team for me to pick for, and I am not sure I have really picked well here, but I just gave them the best available and a local boy. Mason Shaw is another who could be drafted here. Their next pick is 37, so it's really a balance of what type of player they need most.

18. Collingwood - Tom Clurey
With the retirement of Tarrant, a KPD with nice skills would be tempting. He is one of the more athletic defenders in the draft, and could end up being the best KPD from this year. Would be a nice pick up for Collingwood.

19. Collingwood – Ben Kennedy
Collingwood have one of the scariest midfields in the league, and Ben Kennedy could definitely add some X-Factor to that midfield. Or he could be used as a small forward to crumb off the likes of Cloke. Very skillful player, but his lack of height may be a concern for Collingwood.

20. Adelaide – Tim O'Brien
Local boy and a decent replacement for Tippett. Could develop an excellent forward line partnership with Walker. Would be a solid pick up for the Crows.

21. Collingwood - Taylor Garner

More of a best available pick here, Garner would be hard to pass up if he is still available at this selection, and Collingwood have no glaring deficiencies that they can't try and patch up with later picks. Could play that running half forward role the Ben Johnson played so well for them a couple of years ago.

22. Western Bulldogs – Tim Membrey
I have continued my trend of bringing in talls to the bulldogs with early picks, and Membrey js arguably the best available at this pick. Only 189cm, which is short for a key forward, Membrey could still fill the role that was earmarked for some of the other KPF's that haven't quite developed to their expected level, such as Jarrod Grant and Liam Jones. At his height, he could also be a nice foil for those taller guys too, and there is definitely a roll he could play in a forward line that contained a Grant or Jones and Membrey as a third man or a decoy that is hard to match up on.

23. Sydney – Mason Wood
Sydney lack a classy tall forward, and although Sam Reid is showing signs of development, Mason Wood would be a great pick here for Sydney.

24. Brisbane - Nicholas Graham
I have already drafted Lachie Plowman, so Brisbane's needs at this point from the draft would probably just be a best available pick. Nicholas Graham would be a nice addition to their midfield, which lack a little depth. A midfielder would be nice to develop alongside Black in his final year/s.

25. St Kilda - Tanner Smith
Could use another KPD. Tanner is arguably the best of the rest in that role. Very athletic and would fill a need for the Saints.

26. St. Kilda – Sam Colquhoun.
Good run out of defense, elite ball use. Would be a very good addition to the Saints' half backline. Only worry is a lack of height, but could play a Jarrod Harbrow style role out of defense for the Saints.

27. Melbourne – Jack Viney
The steal of the draft, quite possibly. F/S selection.

28. GWS – Jackson Thurlow
Shut up, you knew I would squeeze him in to my top 30 ;) Good running defender for GWS, could play forward or back, a very useful acquisition at pick 28. A potential Birchall mk II.

29. Hawthorn – Nathan Wright
With Thurlow and Colquhoun taken, Nathan Wright would be the obvious choice here. He is kind of inbetween both of them height wise, but lacks their elite kicking skills at this stage. Could easily be rectified by good coaching. Anyway, by pick 29 it is hard to draft a ready made player.

30. Port Adelaide – Tim Broomhead
Another local boy for Port. A highly rated midfielder who would be the best of the rest at this selection.

Hope you enjoyed.
 
Good draft mate. But if this is a needs based draft. GWS would have to snap up Grundy in the Top 3 as behind Giles they have a glaring hole for quality ruckmen (Phillips, Downie), and Fremantle's lack of KPF's after Pavlich goes I think Mason Shaw is a must get if he's not already off the board. Apart from those two I completely agree with this mate a very well researched and good job all round.
 
Good draft mate. But if this is a needs based draft. GWS would have to snap up Grundy in the Top 3 as behind Giles they have a glaring hole for quality ruckmen (Phillips, Downie), and Fremantle's lack of KPF's after Pavlich goes I think Mason Shaw is a must get if he's not already off the board. Apart from those two I completely agree with this mate a very well researched and good job all round.

Thanks, TJ. My guess is that it will depend on what happens with Tippett. I suppose you could say that this is based on them still being in the hunt for Tippett. If that doesn't go through, they may take Grundy in the top 3, or they could just re-sign Dean Brogan and keep developing the rucks they have. However, you're right in that my ideal top 3 for GWS would be Whitfield, Menzell, and Grundy. That would be fantastic, and I'd rather they go that way, but it seems they are still keen on Tippett. I should have added that info into my draft, so my bad. I rectified that, and it is in there under Toumpas's selection at 3.
 

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I think the Freo board will go into meltdown if we take another skinny outside midfielder. We have Hill/Fyfe/D.Pearce who can play a similar role. With the exodus from our back line (Roberton, McPhee, Grover, and sadly McPharlin has only a year or two left at best) we'd be crazy to draft anything except KPP with at least 2 of our first 3 picks, or we'll end up with zero depth in the back line (we will already have to play probably two of (Silvagni/Anthony/Faulks).

We'll also need KPF before we need a mid. Simpson is quality, but I suspect this year may be the first in a while where we pick by needs instead of best available. I'd be stoked with O'brien or Clurey if they fall to us.

Having said that, Freo has taken the best available for the last few years, so we may pull the trigger on a gun mid. We need KPP though, as the next in line for KPF after Pav is JA, and the next KPD in line after MacPharlin is Silvagni, or Faulks. You should see why the Freo fans are a bit worried about that. As it is, a long term injury to either will kill our season.
 
Given you set your Mock up as "needs based" it seems strange to have Dockers taking a player in a similar role to D Pearce and Hill, and not where our glaring need is with KPP's. Love the idea of drafting Simpson, but in your needs draft he is followed in quick succession by players like Clurey, O'brien, Wood and Tanner Smith.
 
I think the Freo board will go into meltdown if we take another skinny outside midfielder. We have Hill/Fyfe/D.Pearce who can play a similar role. With the exodus from our back line (Roberton, McPhee, Grover, and sadly McPharlin has only a year or two left at best) we'd be crazy to draft anything except KPP with at least 2 of our first 3 picks, or we'll end up with zero depth in the back line (we will already have to play probably two of (Silvagni/Anthony/Faulks).

Given you set your Mock up as "needs based" it seems strange to have Dockers taking a player in a similar role to D Pearce and Hill, and not where our glaring need is with KPP's. Love the idea of drafting Simpson, but in your needs draft he is followed in quick succession by players like Clurey, O'brien, Wood and Tanner Smith.

Yeah, cheers. I knew my Freo selection probably wasn't going to be popular. I don't get to see a lot of them play and had a hard time reading their list. I will take those suggestions on board and think about changing my order before the draft date. :thumbsu:
 
Not gonna do at least a top 50 to add it to the combined draft Tazwegian?
 
Yeah, cheers. I knew my Freo selection probably wasn't going to be popular. I don't get to see a lot of them play and had a hard time reading their list. I will take those suggestions on board and think about changing my order before the draft date. :thumbsu:

Not saying Simpson is a bad selection, and who knows he may well be the one we jump to. It seems highly likely there will be some KPP's available around our two 2nd round selections. just on a needs basis, we would be going KPF.
 
Fair effort - FWIW we're ok for key backs, key forward would be nice but perhaps we'd be reaching too much at pick 6.
A genuine rebounding defender would also be on our list of needs.
 
Not saying Simpson is a bad selection, and who knows he may well be the one we jump to. It seems highly likely there will be some KPP's available around our two 2nd round selections. just on a needs basis, we would be going KPF.

I am thinking that you are right. It seems that the KPDs thin out a bit after the first five or so. You could always rookie someone like Joel Tippett, or even select him with your last live pick in the national draft. But the quality of Clurey, who is still available according to my draft order, may be too hard to pass up. The input has definitely been taken on board, and I'd be keen to hear from supporters of other clubs as to how they rate my selection for that club.
 
Not gonna do at least a top 50 to add it to the combined draft Tazwegian?

I was starting to run out of knowledge and ideas by 30, mate. Would like to, but I don't think I have it in me. Maybe next year. Thanks, though :thumbsu:
 
Fair effort - FWIW we're ok for key backs, key forward would be nice but perhaps we'd be reaching too much at pick 6.
A genuine rebounding defender would also be on our list of needs.

It's hard to say, because I really like your young mids and I think that taking to with 6 and 7 would be unneccesary. Your defense is pretty solid, but with Lake gone and Morris aging, it wouldn't be a bad idea to take Jaksch, because he can fill a variety of roles that you may need going forward in the next four years or so. It will be interesting to see how it falls on the day though.
 

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It's hard to say, because I really like your young mids and I think that taking to with 6 and 7 would be unneccesary. Your defense is pretty solid, but with Lake gone and Morris aging, it wouldn't be a bad idea to take Jaksch, because he can fill a variety of roles that you may need going forward in the next four years or so. It will be interesting to see how it falls on the day though.
A genuine key forward we need desperately, we have Roughead playing at FB next year and between Williams, Talia, Markovic and Fletcher Roberts we shoudl be able to cover CHB.

Williams and/or Roberts may spend time up forward, and Cordy & Jones will be expected to provide a target but apart from that the cupbooard is bare. Membrey is an interesting one, because B-Mac did mention earlier in the year we want a medium forward who can "do it all", and with his sympathies for harder types Membrey at 22 does sound like a B-Mac selection.
I'd hazard a guess and say that if we picked up Membrey at 22 we'd look at a rebounding type (Irra?) at 51.
 
I think the Freo board will go into meltdown if we take another skinny outside midfielder. We have Hill/Fyfe/D.Pearce who can play a similar role. With the exodus from our back line (Roberton, McPhee, Grover, and sadly McPharlin has only a year or two left at best) we'd be crazy to draft anything except KPP with at least 2 of our first 3 picks, or we'll end up with zero depth in the back line (we will already have to play probably two of (Silvagni/Anthony/Faulks).

We'll also need KPF before we need a mid. Simpson is quality, but I suspect this year may be the first in a while where we pick by needs instead of best available. I'd be stoked with O'brien or Clurey if they fall to us.

Having said that, Freo has taken the best available for the last few years, so we may pull the trigger on a gun mid. We need KPP though, as the next in line for KPF after Pav is JA, and the next KPD in line after MacPharlin is Silvagni, or Faulks. You should see why the Freo fans are a bit worried about that. As it is, a long term injury to either will kill our season.


I would be quiet happy with Simpson with our first pick, I think there will be a number of good KP players available with pick 37 and 40.

I am big fan of choosing the best available with the first pick and then going for needs with later picks.
 
You could not get Lonergan into your top 10, disappointed, of all people!

You underrate Lonergan IMO. :eek:

LOL. I was tempted to get him in the top 10, but I went more along with consensus. Plus, I would love to see him at Geelong and it just feels like a good fit for that club.
 

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Just a question where is Jake stringer

Pick #31 :oops:

I'll probably get him in there if I do another update sometime before the draft. It's actually a far more difficult process than it seemed to me before I started this, and when I was choosing particular players, I was horrified to see some others slide down my order, who prior to commencing the mock draft, I thought deserved to go high. Stringer is one of those guys who just slid, but probably will go higher on the day. The injury is a concern to me, but even so, I could see a club taking the risk with a top 30 pick. Geelong are rumoured to be very interested, but not sure that they should pass on Lonergan if he is available. He deserves to be in my top 30 somewhere though, so will see how I feel when I get around to re-evaluating my order. The only problem is, if I move him in, someone else has to move out. It is such a tight top 30 that someone who I rate highly will miss out no matter what I do.
 
I would be quiet happy with Simpson with our first pick, I think there will be a number of good KP players available with pick 37 and 40.

I am big fan of choosing the best available with the first pick and then going for needs with later picks.

I am also, unless there is an obvious deficiency and a similarly obvious potential draftee to choose to fill that deficiency.

It's going to be very hard to please everyone with my draft. In fact, it will be impossible. Not even the professional recruiters will be able to please all their club's supporters, there is just too many different opinions out there. I don't think Simpson is a bad choice for your club, if that's how they go. But I can definitely see the argument for them to go for Clurey if he is still available also.
 
Good draft, I would love it if we got Macrae. People keep on saying we are highly interested in Vlaustin because we need an inside midfielder. But Macrae excites me more, I prefer Mids who can do both e.g Cotchin, Martin, Macrae
 
Pick #31 :oops:

I'll probably get him in there if I do another update sometime before the draft. It's actually a far more difficult process than it seemed to me before I started this, and when I was choosing particular players, I was horrified to see some others slide down my order, who prior to commencing the mock draft, I thought deserved to go high. Stringer is one of those guys who just slid, but probably will go higher on the day. The injury is a concern to me, but even so, I could see a club taking the risk with a top 30 pick. Geelong are rumoured to be very interested, but not sure that they should pass on Lonergan if he is available. He deserves to be in my top 30 somewhere though, so will see how I feel when I get around to re-evaluating my order. The only problem is, if I move him in, someone else has to move out. It is such a tight top 30 that someone who I rate highly will miss out no matter what I do.
Collingwood with three cracks at Stringer would draft him. Guaranteed. Won't happen on the night though, because he'll go before #18.
 
Collingwood with three cracks at Stringer would draft him. Guaranteed. Won't happen on the night though, because he'll go before #18.

Yeah, I was thinking along those lines. It is why I took Garlett at 21. Not sure that that will happen on the day either, lots of concern over him might see him slide.

Apparently Stringer needs a lot of work done to correct his running. It has to be concerning, but the problem for Geelong is that if they want him, they have to use pick 16. Seems risky, but I guess all draft selections have their risks.

The other team that are keen are the bulldogs. For mine, if I were Western Bulldogs, I'd take Jaksch and O'Rourke at 5 and 6, and they could hope on Stringer sliding to 22, and take him there, or they could go with Membrey otherwise.

I have an idea to take Stringer for North's 15, move Garner to Collingwood's 21, and oust Garlett from the top 30 based on off field issues, but that would be a tough call really. I'd have to think about that for a bit though, but sounds like a reasonable option.

In the end, it is all speculation, and without having inside info, it is really hard to judge how bad Stringer's leg is, and how bad Garlett's off field issues are. However, if it is true that Garlett is only getting 12 on the beep test, that shows a lack of passion and heart for mine. For a guy his size, and playing his role, you'd expect a 13. Even I can get 12. It is almost as poor as Newman's effort for West Coast where he got beaten by Worsfold on the 2km time trial today.
 
In the end, it is all speculation, and without having inside info, it is really hard to judge how bad Stringer's leg is, and how bad Garlett's off field issues are.
Not that hard - Freo basically said that they'll draft him if he's there at #17 without hesitation or any desire to play cagey, and it's believed that Geelong feel much the same at #16, so his leg is only bad enough to have him slide to there.
 

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