I don't believe Swans got pick 55.
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I don't believe Swans got pick 55.
They did. They picked up some player that hasn't played a game yet. We had 39(Neagle) so we would of had 55 before swapping it for 51.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_AFL_Draft
Not to say that wikipedia is right.
I was wrong, my apologies DaSawx.
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It happened, we swapped 55 for 51 as part of the deal, possibly hoping we could use it on Neagle as it was effectively a '3rd rounder', was a nice try by Sheeds but didn't work out
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Worked out very well for Essendon. As has the Richards deal. Considering he wanted to leave also we managed to get a win from that trade.
If you were to ask Freo if they would rather o brien and solomon as opposed to riemers and houli they would prefer the latter every day of the week. Well done by dodora for picking up such quality late in the draft. 2006 draft looks like it will be a success. Just need Gumbleton and Jetta to join the party....
If you were to ask Freo if they would rather o brien and solomon as opposed to riemers and houli they would prefer the latter every day of the week. Well done by dodora for picking up such quality late in the draft. 2006 draft looks like it will be a success. Just need Gumbleton and Jetta to join the party....
I don't think we should've traded Mark Johnson to be honest, I reckon having him as a defensive midfielder or back pocket this year would've made a difference ... but that's another story.
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MJ was incredible! 
Essendon easily won the Solomon trade.
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i miss solly, Solly pre-knee was a ____ing monster. Since the reco he has become a honest goer who gives nothing other than 100%.
Sad that he missed out on life membership for the club by one year, he certainly deserves it.
Sad that he missed out on life membership for the club by one year, he certainly deserves it.
That's a rediculous way to look at it.
Sydney drafted a mature player who was ready to play senior footy. The bombers got 2 young kids who hadn't played senior footy before.
If you looked at it and said who would you have on your list, Ted Richards who is just a player or:
Dempsey who has the potential to win a Brownlow medal and will be crucial to our rebuilding process
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Lonergan. Hard to say what sort of career he's going to have. Friday nights game was exceptional though.
Would have Dempsey over Richards at my club in a heartbeat and if you threw in Lonergan then the trade becomes so weighted to the Bombers favour it's a joke.
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Some people's expectations of our players are ridiculous. Remember when Damien Cupido came along and we were all laughing at what a great trade it was. Fast forward three seasons and he's gone.
What if Dempsey only plays another 20 games because of injury ? Or goes to the Gold Coast. There are so many possible negative variables.
Swans are miles in front on this trade at the moment. Just accept it and re-assess in five years time.
2008 Solomon 8 games 15.7 possession and 2.9 tackles a game
Reimers 7 games 15.6 possessions and 2.7 tackles a game.
Houli 9 games 18.6 possessions 3.2 tackles a game.
Brock O'Brien 1 game 7 possesions 2 tackles
Houli and Reimers both look like are looking like two of the better late picks in recent years.
Having said that I am sure Fremantle are happy with how Solly is going. Win win for both teams.
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I'd say that Essendon won in the Solomon trade to Freo, even though he was my favourite player when he was with the Dons.
I wonder how we would've fared if Dean Solomon had've completed he's intended move to Richmond a few years ago (before he was coaxed back to Essendon by Hirdy & the boys).
I wonder how we would've fared if Dean Solomon had've completed he's intended move to Richmond a few years ago (before he was coaxed back to Essendon by Hirdy & the boys).
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Also, even if Essendon and Freo hadn't swapped those late picks, I think Reimers would still have been a Bomber and O'Brien a Docker, but we will never know for sure. So I consider the trade to be Houli for Solomon, not Houli and Reimers for Solomon and O'Brien.
Not rediculous at all.
When you're trying to rebuild a side, inevitably you need to bring in youth. There's no doubt that Demps has the tools to be a star of this competition. Any good judge will tell you that.
When you are trying to look at youth then all you have are hopes and expectations built on the potential of the player. Dempsey has plenty of this.
By your logic, we shouldn't ever judge based on the next day as next year they might be traded. If that were the case then any side that traded a draft pick off to get a mature age player would be the winner. That's not true.
Dempsey and Lonergan over Richards any day of the week and for many years to come.
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