The 2012 KUDOS Thread!

[James]

Hey pillager, you would have been much better off going Ellis>Goddard.

 

[James]

Heppell was averaging over 96 ppg from 6 games at the time and had impeccable durability. Every indication suggested that he was looking like a top 7 defender. He still might be one.

I'm sure you wouldn't have called that trade a fail at the time.

gp, I had Hep D as a B7 rookie last season for the whole year and he was great, but I've never considered him as a top 7 defender this year, even when he was averaging 96. Fools gold. Goddard FTW!

 

[DTpunter]

Thats why he is ranked at 1k and your sitting close behind at 27k

You sure know your stuff James.

I see it as Pillagers little slice of bad luck. Hasnt had to deal with Lakes suspension, Mal, Birchall, Duffield, christensen, Hale injuries and being subbed. Hasnt had Buddy and Hale play in england ever week.

It may well just mean he trades differently this week. He might just target a R11 backline upgrade to avoid Morris score and keep Swan. I think thats what i would do without looking at his side too closely.

 

[Rudeurrection]

Considering how well Couch has played in the VFL this year and how bad Melbourne have been playing, it is perfectly reasonable to question the selection table as to why his name has not cropped up yet.

Unless a proper and logical answer is supplied as to why Couch won't get a game rather than "I said he won't get a game before the season" rather than shit-stirring and sucking James in you can't expect an overly mature response back.
Personally I would like to hear why Couch is not getting a game NOW not something based on a pre-season prediction.

If you read the Demons board i gave a perfectly good explanation then and there (before round 1). Ill repeat myself: we have have enough of Couch's style of player already in our side. McKenzie, Bail, Magner and Jones. The names roll on. He is inside player/tagger. He is along way down on the depth chart, even at Melbourne.

It was baffling to a lot of us that he was upgraded ahead of Nicholson, considering Nicho has pace, something we desperately need.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Makes you wonder why the hell Melbourne drafted him.

 

[Forward Press]

Makes you wonder why the hell Melbourne drafted him.

Like many other rookie listed players, a speculative pick. Obviously they don't rate him right now but iirc all rookies get two year contracts, so he might get a look in next year if not this year.

 

[Rudeurrection]

Makes you wonder why the hell Melbourne drafted him.

This is a harder question to answer than 'why isnt he getting a game?'

 

[DTpunter]

May aswell have given a kid a year of development like Shane Nelson under an AFL program.

They are also losing plenty of money by having upgraded him before the season. You would have thought with promotion, nab form and melbourne sturggling to win their own pill he would play not to even mention how they are going.

 

[Rabbitpig]

Thats why he is ranked at 1k and your sitting close behind at 27k

You sure know your stuff James.

I see it as Pillagers little slice of bad luck. Hasnt had to deal with Lakes suspension, Mal, Birchall, Duffield, christensen, Hale injuries and being subbed. Hasnt had Buddy and Hale play in england ever week.

It may well just mean he trades differently this week. He might just target a R11 backline upgrade to avoid Morris score and keep Swan. I think thats what i would do without looking at his side too closely.

In relation to Heppel, I think he may have payed too high a price to bring him in. Not a bad pick as such, but you have to find value in each and every upgrade to remain competitive.

Buy low, sell high and all that.

 

[DTpunter]

In relation to Heppel, I think he may have payed too high a price to bring him in. Not a bad pick as such, but you have to find value in each and every upgrade to remain competitive.

Buy low, sell high and all that.

Yeh i agree i think he bought him at a too high price. I was almost sold on bringing in a backline premium last week and it had to be a R12 premium. H.Shaw, Enright and Mackie were the only 3 i considered.

Will be interesting to see if he rest one more week against melbourne next week.

 

[pillager]

Hey pillager, you would have been much better off going Ellis>Goddard.

Very true.

Well, my hand has been forced. These are my planned trades due to Heppell being rested:

Greene ---> Zorko
Townsend ---> Lake/Waters (I have not decided between the two but leaning towards Waters)

This is probably for the best. I would rather have a decent player scoring for my team during round 12 and 13 anyway.

I am Holding Swan. The Collingwood website has him returning in round 10. Surely this is code for a round 11 return if he does not pass a fitness test next week?

 

[pillager]

It may well just mean he trades differently this week. He might just target a R11 backline upgrade to avoid Morris score and keep Swan. I think thats what i would do without looking at his side too closely.

Spot on.

 

[Ball Hog]

With the benefit of hindsight I find it very funny that the first post in this great said kudos to Gibbs

*I know this post doesn't add any value I just thought it was worthy of a mention*

 

[Lemma]

Not having a go at you Rude because I'm sure you know more about Melbourne than I do
but what does Melbourne really have to lose by playing Couch? It's the effort that is
lacking, and Couch has shown it week in week out. Surely he has earnt one game?

 

[yogibbear]

With the benefit of hindsight I find it very funny that the first post in this great said kudos to Gibbs

*I know this post doesn't add any value I just thought it was worthy of a mention*

Oh come now we all gave James endless shit about that. No need to go rubbing it in anymore.... anyway it might turn out to be genious now that Murphy is out.

 

[Sergian]

May aswell have given a kid a year of development like Shane Nelson under an AFL program.

They are also losing plenty of money by having upgraded him before the season. You would have thought with promotion, nab form and melbourne sturggling to win their own pill he would play not to even mention how they are going.

They should of just kept Valenti.

 

[lmach]

Oh come now we all gave James endless shit about that. No need to go rubbing it in anymore.... anyway it might turn out to be genious now that Murphy is out.

Nope, he traded him out for Lids who he should of had to start with

 

[Ball Hog]

Oh come now we all gave James endless shit about that. No need to go rubbing it in anymore.... anyway it might turn out to be genious now that Murphy is out.

Yes I do recall reading the first few pages of this thread where James was criticised a lot. My post certainly wasn't meant to criticise James, I just thought it rather humorous that one of the most disappointing DT'ers of 2011 received the very first kudos in this thread. Besides with hindsight James actually did well to trade Gibbs early when he did

Not having a go at you Rude because I'm sure you know more about Melbourne than I do
but what does Melbourne really have to lose by playing Couch? It's the effort that is
lacking, and Couch has shown it week in week out. Surely he has earnt one game?

That is exactly what I have been thinking for the past 4 or 5 rounds. To me their logic is absolutely ridiculous for a team that is last on the ladder, and it really doesn't send Couch a good message.

 

[James]

Very true.

Well, my hand has been forced. These are my planned trades due to Heppell being rested:

Greene ---> Zorko
Townsend ---> Lake/Waters (I have not decided between the two but leaning towards Waters)

This is probably for the best. I would rather have a decent player scoring for my team during round 12 and 13 anyway.

I am Holding Swan. The Collingwood website has him returning in round 10. Surely this is code for a round 11 return if he does not pass a fitness test next week?

Sounds like a plan! Your defence would then be complete when Heppell returns.

 

[James]

If you read the Demons board i gave a perfectly good explanation then and there (before round 1). Ill repeat myself: we have have enough of Couch's style of player already in our side. McKenzie, Bail, Magner and Jones. The names roll on. He is inside player/tagger. He is along way down on the depth chart, even at Melbourne.

It was baffling to a lot of us that he was upgraded ahead of Nicholson, considering Nicho has pace, something we desperately need.

You forgot Maloney who has been shit in plenty of games as well. On current form, although he is more of a HF Couch would be of more value on the HF line than Sylvia who doesn't seem to give a shit any more.

Also, surely Couch could have been given a game ahead of Bail by now (very average player), at least to see how he goes @ senior level? McKenzie has had more shit games than average ones so far as well. Bail & McKenzie get dropped, then proceed to play shit/ mediocre in the ressies, whilst Couch kicks arse, but of course the proven spuds are always the ones who get the recall. It's the Melbourne way. I was watching Casey a couple of weeks ago where Green & Jurrah were both only average (and I'm being generous here), yet both were promoted back to the seniors last week only to contribute jack shit...

 

[Rudeurrection]

You forgot Maloney who has been shit in plenty of games as well. On current form, although he is more of a HF Couch would be of more value on the HF line than Sylvia who doesn't seem to give a shit any more.

Also, surely Couch could have been given a game ahead of Bail by now (very average player), at least to see how he goes @ senior level? McKenzie has had more shit games than average ones so far as well. Bail & McKenzie get dropped, then proceed to play shit/ mediocre in the ressies, whilst Couch kicks arse, but of course the proven spuds are always the ones who get the recall. It's the Melbourne way. I was watching Casey a couple of weeks ago where Green & Jurrah were both only average (and I'm being generous here), yet both were promoted back to the seniors last week only to contribute jack shit...

No disagreeing here, yes, Couch deserves a game ahead of some of the current players who have been getting a game at senior level. Im only giving you resons as to why he wouldnt be getting a game now and why at the start of the season i thought he wouldnt play much.

I think McKenzie is the one though. I can only assume Couch was upgraded because McKenzie was injured this preseason, Neeld must have been thinking of Couch as insurance incase mcKenzie didnt come back well from his operation.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Kudos to Sam Darley, 46 in a quarter. If only he played the whole game.

 

[pillager]

Kudos to Treloar

His 119 will come in handy in an otherwise ordinary week so far.

 

[JuddyBuddy]

Kudos to Treloar

His 119 will come in handy in an otherwise ordinary week so far.

Seconded. Didn't really have a choice but to start him, so I'm happy he pulled out a nice score.

 

[pillager]

And Kudos to Saad for an 86 in his rolling average.

11 tackles... what a machine.