The 29 Jan Training Thread

[skoobydoo]

Also with the midfielders having to rotate on the ground for a 'rest' period, you don't want them into a team structure position where they still have to run almost as hard as they did in the midfield. To my mind this will be interesting to see if teams will create positions for the smaller/mid size players who will be more 'stay at home'. This then will have an effect on the opposition coach/player. Will that player have the endurance to push and 'hurt' their opponent? Will coaches look to exploit this in some way?

It will be interesting to see if structure suffers with players 'resting' in alternative roles.

 

[Donkey Magoo]

It will be interesting to see if structure suffers with players 'resting' in alternative roles.

It doesn't have to suffer; I think that the cap simply introduces a new dynamic to the game. The running capacity of teams under the old,old rules meant whole ground flooding was happening which is the root of this problem. The substitute solution addressed this, but worked better in theory than practice. Especially coupled with the automatic "off with concussion" rule teams were simply losing too many players and having a fit bloke just sitting there.
With the new additions to our team I truly think that we are going to see a dramatic shift in the way that the Crows play ball this year. I think that we will have 5 types of players Defenders, Mid-Defenders, Pure Mids, Mid-Forwards and forwards. I think that our rotations on field will almost be constant in nearly every play phase. This gives us the advantage on not allowing the opposition to orientate and also gives our players continual rest so that they will tire more gradually. I also think that this fits more with the mid "Net" style that we have seen recently.

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

It will be interesting to see if structure suffers with players 'resting' in alternative roles.

It would be a bad thing as footy has become too structured IMO

 

[Sanders]

we know what footy was like before the high rotations came in, so we've got a pretty good reference point for how it will look when it goes back to how it was

 

[skoobydoo]

It doesn't have to suffer; I think that the cap simply introduces a new dynamic to the game. The running capacity of teams under the old,old rules meant whole ground flooding was happening which is the root of this problem. The substitute solution addressed this, but worked better in theory than practice. Especially coupled with the automatic "off with concussion" rule teams were simply losing too many players and having a fit bloke just sitting there.
With the new additions to our team I truly think that we are going to see a dramatic shift in the way that the Crows play ball this year. I think that we will have 5 types of players Defenders, Mid-Defenders, Pure Mids, Mid-Forwards and forwards. I think that our rotations on field will almost be constant in nearly every play phase. This gives us the advantage on not allowing the opposition to orientate and also gives our players continual rest so that they will tire more gradually. I also think that this fits more with the mid "Net" style that we have seen recently.

Agree, but I need you to tell me more about the 'Net' style? Am being serious.

 

[BRL121]

Agree, but I need you to tell me more about the 'Net' style? Am being serious.

Weagles web??

 

[Coopers]

Well, instead of full ground flooding, we might go back to the days of all 22 in your defensive 50 flooding. Whohoo.

 

[Donkey Magoo]

Agree, but I need you to tell me more about the 'Net' style? Am being serious.

Yeah, like the weagles web. A floating structure that surrounds the play aiding distribution but also helps mid defensive pressure.

 

[Mismatched]

I also managed to get down to training on Friday with the Mrs. WW appears to have provided a pretty good commentary on the training and also on the state of speed limits in SA, however I suggest he's going to the wrong places for coffee...

As usual, very difficult to differentiate players, worse than I remember in fact. i swear they've all copied each other's hair cuts...

A few minor comments.

Tom Lynch: looks in top shape, strutting around the training in a similar manner to Stevie J. I reckon he's gained half a yard in pace too. Looks set for a big year,p.
Milera: appeared to be training more midfield than small forward, wouldn't be surprised if he's pushing for a midfield spot, as opposed to a small forward spot as expected.
B.Crouch: Disposal iffy, but looks fit and unrestricted, a matter of gaining ball skills.
Doedee: did not look out of place or overwhelmed at all in game sim. Settled, balanced, clean take and disposal. Again would not surprise if he's challenging for a spot early.
Hampton/Seedsman/Smith: look like they'll be rotating back flank with some midfield relief.
Charlie Cameron: Was in amongst everything, get set for a decent year,
Thommo: looks in as good a shape as ever, would not be surprised if he pushes for another season, did not look like a player on his last legs.
Grigg: also impressed, In amongst the tough stuff. More standout than Ellis-Yolman, Gore and Lyons.

 

[mistylake]

There will be a return to 'tempo' football , no doubt

I guess this will play into Hawthorns hands with their elite disposal. Will we re-enter the Crowbot era?

 

[mistylake]

Har Har... my head hurts. What I'm getting at is we've been achieving more than we ought to due to a fitness edge.

Well that has been a part about our game over the years. Or is this a mental thing.

 

[mistylake]

It equates to roughly 4 interchanges per player to the 5.5 per player last year so 1.5 interchange less per player. So in the second half we might just see a bit more kick to kick again to give everyone a few mins to recouparate. Qtr times and especially half time breaks now will become more important to recover

Will we see the oxygen cylinders on the interchange bench like in American football? Other methods of blood oxygenation like high altitude training.

 

[dogs105]

Will we see the oxygen cylinders on the interchange bench like in American football? Other methods of blood oxygenation like high altitude training.

I love it when some 350 pound defensive tackle returns a fumble for 30 yards, then needs oxygen!!

 

[BRL121]

I love it when some 350 pound defensive tackle returns a fumble for 30 yards, then needs oxygen!!

Surely oxygen is performance enhancing?

 

[AmericanCrow]

Surely oxygen is performance enhancing?

Clearly you have not watched this guy---anytime he wishes to enhance his play would be okay by me:

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Surely oxygen is performance enhancing?

No more breathing allowed!

 

[GrommoT]

No more breathing allowed!

They'll just put a cap on the number of breaths per player per game.

 

[footy4ever]

Clearly you have not watched this guy---anytime he wishes to enhance his play would be okay by me:

Actually looks like an oxygen thief....more like a KFC thief.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I also managed to get down to training on Friday with the Mrs. WW appears to have provided a pretty good commentary on the training and also on the state of speed limits in SA, however I suggest he's going to the wrong places for coffee...

As usual, very difficult to differentiate players, worse than I remember in fact. i swear they've all copied each other's hair cuts...

A few minor comments.

Tom Lynch: looks in top shape, strutting around the training in a similar manner to Stevie J. I reckon he's gained half a yard in pace too. Looks set for a big year,p.
Milera: appeared to be training more midfield than small forward, wouldn't be surprised if he's pushing for a midfield spot, as opposed to a small forward spot as expected.
B.Crouch: Disposal iffy, but looks fit and unrestricted, a matter of gaining ball skills.
Doedee: did not look out of place or overwhelmed at all in game sim. Settled, balanced, clean take and disposal. Again would not surprise if he's challenging for a spot early.
Hampton/Seedsman/Smith: look like they'll be rotating back flank with some midfield relief.
Charlie Cameron: Was in amongst everything, get set for a decent year,
Thommo: looks in as good a shape as ever, would not be surprised if he pushes for another season, did not look like a player on his last legs.
Grigg: also impressed, In amongst the tough stuff. More standout than Ellis-Yolman, Gore and Lyons.

Think it's pretty much acknowledged that Milera will be developed as a mid . Has all the tools to be , just that he put on a clinic when centrals played him forward

Think we are happy with our small forwards ( betts Cameron and occasionally knight ) and need a dynamic mid that can kick like Milera

Massive chance for round 1

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Think it's pretty much acknowledged that Milera will be developed as a mid . Has all the tools to be , just that he put on a clinic when centrals played him forward

Think we are happy with our small forwards ( betts Cameron and occasionally knight ) and need a dynamic mid that can kick like Milera

Massive chance for round 1

If Milera as a mid ....why not Menzel?

 

[Tex200]

Think it's pretty much acknowledged that Milera will be developed as a mid . Has all the tools to be , just that he put on a clinic when centrals played him forward

Think we are happy with our small forwards ( betts Cameron and occasionally knight ) and need a dynamic mid that can kick like Milera

Massive chance for round 1

Would be very happy with this. Grigg also seems to be firming for a R1 spot

 

[lunacy]

If Milera as a mid ....why not Menzel?

Milera is the better mid and Menzel is the better forward.

Hopefully both rotate thru both roles.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

If Milera as a mid ....why not Menzel?

Menzel is a forward .... Has played more of his football forward and endurance is not mid material at this stage

Milera is a mid who can play forward but could also play off half back in time

 

[Jeffcrowe]

It should be acknowledged that Milera barely played forward in SA U18s side last year

The fact that he spent some time off half back suggests that Phillips rated his kicking and run off half back as Phillips team always has the best kicks playing off half back

 

[Footypie32]

Well, instead of full ground flooding, we might go back to the days of all 22 in your defensive 50 flooding. Whohoo.

If Pyke can get away with that I'll laud him as a friggin mastermind!!