The Best 22

[pumped]

Very difficult given long term injuries to guys like Houla and Walker but here goes.

b. Scotland Jamison Thornton
hb.Bower Waite Setanta
c.Walker Judd Gibbs
hf Stevens Cloke Simpson
f Betts Fevola Kruezer
r.Hampson Bentick Murphy
res from Armfield,Houlihan,Fisher, Carrazzo, Hadley, Wiggins, Russell.

 

[The Grover]

He has had over a year since his knee op - played 14 games for Brisbane in 07, before being dropped to the reserved.

Had a very interrupted preseason, so we'll see how he goes when fully fit, but on what he's shown thus far, he doesn't deserve to be in the 22. Bentick has added much more to the side than he has, and neither are so good that we can afford to play both. I don't see Hadley as anything but a centreman - I've seen nothing that suggests he'll make a good flanker.

Definitely good value - an experienced player who bolsters our depth for a nothing pick, but at the moment I'd send him back to the VFL. As I said, with a full preseason behind him he might be better for it, and he has missed a lot of football, plus is fairly inexperienced for a man of his age, so I've no doubt he's got improvement left him in. Just how much, is yet to be seen.

Couldn't agree more, Hadley could not play on a flank.

Bentick has earnt his spot & its up to Hadley to get it back.

 

[The Grover]

Some of the love for Houlihan is making me sick, if he continues to get games next year & beyond it means we have no chance for a flag.

We need some bloody energy on our forward line, not some guy who floats about.

Please may we recruit Yarran to replace this average player.

 

[Jeremias]

Geez, in previous years when this question has been asked it's been pretty easy to just roll the best 22 off the top of your head.

Now we actually have to think about it because it has become a pretty hard exercise to complete.

I'll have a think about it and get back to you. Isn't it great to finally have some depth?

 

[Murph is baby Judd]

would you put him ahead of carrots?

absolutely
41 possession games are fantastic but there are many players that can run round and get their hands on the pill, not so many that you can rely on to win hard contested footy

last week bentick was 2nd in the afl for contested possies, between simon black and gary ablett, with judd in 4th
this week judd had an absolute monster 13 contested possies (the most in a single game this year) pushing him up to 2nd, while bentick slipped to 4th with ablett jumping him

theres a massive gap between 4th and 5th aswell

some other names in the top 10: nathan foley, daniel kerr, matthew pavlich, matt priddis, scott west

most people would take anyone/everyone from that list, yet bentick doesnt get a run in our 22?

EDIT: also its fantastic that we can actually have arguments like this about a carlton list, been a long time coming
EDIT x2: 13 is actually the most by a player this year, i initially said black had a 13 game as well this year, but his career best is 13, best for the year is a meager 10 !

 

[gbatman]

On the Bentick or Hadley topic, IMO Bentick is the better option, he is bigger and stronger than hadley and is the big body we have been craving in the center for years. He has proven he can find more of the footy than Hadley and is physically a better player. IMO you can't have both in the one team.

 

[barnesy_78]

B: B.Thornton M.Jamison P.Bower
HB: B.Gibbs J.Waite H.Scotland
C: K.Simpson C.Judd N.Stevens
HF: A.Walker A.Hartlett R.Houlihan
F: E.Betts B.Fevola B.Fisher

OB: C.Cloke M.Murphy A.Bentick

I/C: M.Kreuzer A.Carrazzo R.Hadley S.O'hAilpin


Em: S.Grigg J.Russell J.Bannister

What a fantastic position we are in, I'm glad i am not a selector. My best 22 1/2 can't decide one spot!

B: B.Thornton M.Jamison P.Bower
HB: B.Gibbs J.Waite A.Walker
C: K.Simpson C.Judd N.Stevens
HF: H.Scotland M.Kreuzer J.Russell
F: E.Betts B.Fevola B.Fisher

OB: C.Cloke M.Murphy R.Hadley

I/C: S.Browne/D.Armfiled, A.Carrazzo, A.Hartlett, S.O'hAilpin

Em: S.Grigg J.Bannister A.Bentick, R.Houlihan

IMO I would have Hadley just in front of Bentick. Leave Houilhan and Bannister out, unfortunately the shipped has sailed for these 2. Cant pick between Armfield and Browne - very similar players and both will be guns!

Still have my doubts about Eddie, has been brilliant in parts but frequently goes missing! Do we actually need a small forward???

Just a thought - I wouldn’t want to be the one to make this decision but if Carrazzo or Scotland got dropped (ONLY 1) it wouldn’t bother me that much, they play the exact same way - sideway kicking @ 50% effectiveness!

Russell would just make my side, 6 weeks ago I wish he would be shown the door, but in the last few weeks he has really stepped up - let’s hope he continues.

Irish would get a spot on my bench; I just like him as a footballer! He just has to realise he cant kick out after a point - ever!

And I have added Hartlett on the bench because if it’s true he could fill that CHF spot we are missing!

ATM Hampson isn’t quite ready!

Go blues.....great depth!

 

[TOPBLUE_25]

O'hailpin Jamison Carrazzo
Scotland Waite Thornton

Stevens Murphy Simpson

Walker Kreuzer Gibbs
Betts Fevola Fisher

Cloke Judd Bentick

I/C Grigg Bower Russell Houlihan

 

[TOPBLUE_25]

Maybe swap Gibbs and Scotland position wise.

 

[setanta17]

Baul Bower Michael Jamison Bret Thornton
HB: Andrew Walker Setanta O'hAilpin Heath Scotland
C: Bryce Gibbs Chris Judd Kade Simpson
HF:Matthew Kreuzer Jarrad Waite Marc Murphy
F: Brad Fisher Brendan Fevola Eddie Betts
R: Cameron Cloke Adam Bentick Nick Stevens
I/C from: Jordan Russell Simon Wiggins Andrew Carazzo Dennis Armfield Jordan Bannister Richard Hadley Steven Browne

 

[ClayBlue87]

Just an idea guys, but it seems we are all going aorund in cricles... maybe we shoulld debate each postion and build it from there. For example we start with
FB - CHB - CHF - FF
then the middle 6
Ruck - 1st follower - Rover - Center - Left Wing - Right Wing
then the backline
LBP - RBP - LHBF - RHBF
the forwar dline
LFP - RFP - LHFF - RHFF
then the interchange

I odnt know... just seems so hard to do and i have an exam in 12 hrs... stupid footy makes me procrastinate