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Firstly, let's all have a laugh at loud at the expense of Jerry West and phatandphreaky that the Grizz were one pick away from becoming the most interesting franchise in the NBA... :D Seriously though, commiserations, I had a premonition at work this morning that Memphis would get the pick and Detroit would get screwed over.

Secondly, let me say that I've seen only Darko Milicic (briefly) play of the Euros below that are going to be selected. But the majority of NBA GMs wouldn't have either, at least yet. As far as I know, Dallas and Sacramento are the only teams with a major presence in Europe, a few others have minor operations, but for the most part NBA GMs steal information off said teams. Anyway, on with the shiznit.

1 - Lebron James (Cleveland Cavaliers)

Well, I guess this your fairytale type thing. The Cavs will still be terrible with Lebron next year, but will be the most watched franchise, and probably hit the top of the charts in jersey sales. Either Darius Miles or Ricky Davis would have to be on the way out with the Cavs' lottery win. I see this as a two-fold win for the Cavaliers - Juanny Wags gets to play SG, with Lebron handling the ball, think Eric Snow/Allen Iverson (except Lebron is '6"8 not '6"3.

2 - Darko Milicic (Detroit Pistons)

Joe Dumars will probably have several sleepless night deciding who he takes at #2. But when it comes down to it, the Pistons need more of a front court scorer to complement Wallace and Okur, rather than Carmelo Anthony (who wouldn't have been too shabby I must admit) taking shots away from Billups and Hamilton.

3 - Carmelo Anthony (Denver Nuggets)

They didn't get the big prize, but the Nuggets will be satisfied taking whomever is left out of Milicic and Anthony. Gilbert Arenas is on the way to Colorado, so this pick gives them an excellent young nucleus. The only question is what to do with Skita?

4 - Chris Bosh (Toronto Raptors)

I thought Lampe could go as high as 4, but the Raptors don't quite seem a good fit for the Polish youngster, whereas Chris Bosh does. Will take a while to adjust to the NBA, but will get minutes.

5 - TJ Ford (Miami Heat)

Miami are pretty much set at the 2 (Jones/Butler), 3 (Butler), 4 (Grant) and 5 (the incoming Olowokandi) so it makes sense that they take a point guard. I wish I could be a fly on the wall during the discussions between the Heat and Olowokandi, because if the centre decides to go to Miami as rumoured, Ford can pack his bags for sunny Florida as well. If they can't get Kandi, they may take Chris Kaman. Maybe.

6 - Chris Kaman (LA Clippers)

He's not a good fit, but a replacement for Kandi is needed.

7 - Jarvis Hayes (Chicago)

Chicago pick up a much needed wing, who has, or is going to do a work out for the Bulls in the not too distant future. Mickael Pietrus could be a darkhorse for this selection, but John Paxson could deem Hayes more "NBA ready".

8 - Maciej Lampe (Milwaukee)

This could be either Lampe or Mike Sweetney from Georgetown, but my tip is they pick up the European to develop along with DMase.

9 - Mike Sweetney (New York)

If New York can get Sweetney I suspect they'll take him, which could mean Lampe slides if he isn't taken within the top 8 picks. Once again, I don't think New York would go European, particularly after the Frederick Weis debacle.

10 - Dwyane Wade (Washington)

The Wiz get the NBA ready scorer that they will definitely need after MJ's departure, could Wade be the Paul Pierce or Caron Butler of 2003? Touted Rookie of the Year contender.

11 - Kirk Hinrich (Golden State)

Replace the departing Gilbert Arenas. 'Nuff said.

12 - Leandrinho Barbosa (Seattle)

The Sonics get an energetic point guard to complement Ray Allen, Rashard Lewis and Brent Barry. The Sonics are shaping up really, really nicely.

13 - Mickael Pietrus (Memphis)

The Grizz probably need a bit of depth at the 2 and 5 spots, but there aren't too many worthwhile centres available in this draft. Pietrus seems like a Jerry West kinda guy for some reason.

14 - Sophocles Schortsanitis (Seattle)

Seattle gets a banger with the first non-lottery pick. If Schoranitis and Barbosa take to the NBA quickly, Seattle could be play-off smokeys this time next year.

15 - Luke Ridnour (Orlando)

The Magic get themselves a point guard, as I believe one of Vaughn and Armstrong are on the way out. Could help out the Magic with defensive match-ups which have been pretty much screwed since Grant Hill went down.

16 - Nick Collison (Boston)

The next Kevin McHale? This selection probably has the best feel to it - it's time to populate the Celts with white boys once again.

17 - Zaur Pachulia (Phoenix)

The Suns desperately need a productive centre. They could go for a shooting guard here, but I figure Joe Johnson and Casey Jacobsen are ready for more minutes in 2003-04.

18 - Boris Diaw-Riffiod (New Orleans)

With Magloire and Moiso coming along nicely, and BDiddy and Mash being stars at the 1 and 3, it makes sense to draft a wing who should back up both Wesley and Mashburn.

19 - Zarko Cabarkapa (Utah)

If Andre Miller heads to the land of wonder that is Utah, the Euro-friendly Jazz will probably take Zarko, taking Karl Malone's spot. If not, they could take Reece Gaines with this pick to play PG.

20 - Kendrick Perkins (Boston)

Boston land a centre to back-up Battie at first, and eventually replace him in the 2nd game of the 2003-04 season. Boston will take a centre with one of their first round picks, and I think either Perkins or James Lang will leap up the draft board here.

21 - Travis Outlaw (Atlanta)

The Hawks desperately need excitement, and Outlaw (who can grab the top of the backboard) could provide it. Will back-up the Big Dog if the Hawks can't get rid of him.

22 - Carlos Delfino (New Jersey)

As Kerry Kittle and Lucious Harris age, New Jersey may stash another draft pick away in Europe (the other is Nenad Krstic), to bring them in when needed.

23 - Pavel Podkolzine (Portland)

Sabonis is gone soon and Davis is undersized, why not bring in the '7"4 Russian. Rumour has it that Podkolzine is actually crap, because he is not playing for his club at the moment (as to not expose his weaknesses) and his club simply want the buy-out money of his 10-year (!) contract.

24 - David West (LA Lakers)

The Lakers desperately need a 4, and I don't see them taking a Euro.

25 - Anderson Varejao (Sacramento)

Varejao (at times tipped to go as high as 4!) saw his stock drop horrendously after he played terribly in the recent European Final Four. The Kings have their large presence in Europe, and may have seen other performances of Varejao that lead them to believe the Final Four was an abherration.

26 - Reece Gaines (Minnesota)

EDIT: The Pups actually lose the first-rounder next year, not this year. Thus, Reece Gaines could man the 2-spot which is pretty much the only spot where a legitimate starter isn't present.

27 - Aleksandar Pavlovic (Memphis)

Since I don't see Jerry West taking a high-school centre, he may add to the 2/3 log-jam. And then trade one of them midseason! :D

28 - Victor Khryapa (San Antonio)

Rumoured to be a steal of the upcoming draft, unless of course word leaks out. Like the Nets, San Antonio have a European stashed in his league, so they may do the same with Khryapa. However, their current situation at SF may propel them to bring him in automatically.

29 - Charlie Villenueva (Dallas)

The Mavs don't really need immediate help (however they are rumoured to be adding a PF with the MLE this year), and I don't see them taking a high-schooler... BUT - Villenueva is an offensive 3 who could share minutes with defensive stopper Eduara Najera at the small forward spot.

I'm not going to delve into the secound round, but I think Reece Gaines, Dahntay Jones, Rick Rickert, James Lang et al will be drafted with the first few second round picks. As is the depth of this years draft, most of the second rounders (mainly Euros and college seniors) could stay on their team's rosters.
 
Originally posted by Guey_34
Firstly, let's all have a laugh at loud at the expense of Jerry West and phatandphreaky that the Grizz were one pick away from becoming the most interesting franchise in the NBA... :D Seriously though, commiserations, I had a premonition at work this morning that Memphis would get the pick and Detroit would get screwed over.

No biggie.

We'll just take Elton Brand thanks, will make us quite the interesting franchise, eh Guey.

Quite seriously, no one in Memphis was thinking about having anything more then a top 15 pick, so its not as though we've lost anything.
If we'd tanked the season and still missed out on the 1st pick, i'd have been disappointed, otherwise, it's all good.

As for who we will pick with selection 13, would it be wishful thinking to suggest we take Chris Kaman ?

Put be the perfect addition to the roster.

If he goes too early, i'd expect us to take either Jarvis Hayes or the Polish Pau, Maciej Lampe .

Obviously if we get the Polish Pau, we'd need to move Gasol to the three, but that's no biggie.

If we can't get a big man with pick 13, then expect West to latch onto the Russian Monster Podkolzine at pick 27.
 
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Originally posted by phatandphreaky
As for who we will pick with selection 13, would it be wishful thinking to suggest we take Chris Kaman ?

Put be the perfect addition to the roster.

If he goes too early, i'd expect us to take either Jarvis Hayes or the Polish Pau, Maciej Lampe .

Obviously if we get the Polish Pau, we'd need to move Gasol to the three, but that's no biggie.

If we can't get a big man with pick 13, then expect West to latch onto the Russian Monster Podkolzine at pick 27.

Kaman: Yes, wishful thinking. There's arguably 7 teams that could draft a centre (Kaman) before the Grizz pick at 13.

Hayes: Agree.

Lampe: Wouldn't this be restarting the PF log-jam?

Podkolzine: Highly skeptical of this young chap. Has a ten-year contract with his club which must be bought out, and has feet up there with Z.
 
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Originally posted by Guey_34

Lampe: Wouldn't this be restarting the PF log-jam?

The reason the logjam came this season was because Gooden couldn't play the 3, a position that this kid Lampe could definitely play.

Originally posted by Guey_34

Podkolzine: Highly skeptical of this young chap. Has a ten-year contract with his club which must be bought out, and has feet up there with Z.

The feet are a worry, but the contract isn't. The Grizzlies have shown that they don't mind paying out contracts of quality young foreigners.
 

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Originally posted by Guey_34

18 - Boris Diaw-Riffiod (New Orleans)

With Magloire and Moiso coming along nicely, and BDiddy and Mash being stars at the 1 and 3, it makes sense to draft a wing who should back up both Wesley and Mashburn.
I've heard some pretty big things about this guy. ...
 
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Originally posted by phatandphreaky


We'll just take Elton Brand thanks, will make us quite the interesting franchise, eh Guey.

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You know something we don't? I can't see Brand going anywhere bar San Antonio or Denver if the Clips don't match his contract... but I'd wouldn't mind seeing a feasible scenario where he ends up at the Grizz.
 
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Originally posted by Guey_34
You know something we don't? I can't see Brand going anywhere bar San Antonio or Denver if the Clips don't match his contract... but I'd wouldn't mind seeing a feasible scenario where he ends up at the Grizz.

I'm sure the Grizz could match anything the Clippers put up.

I don't know our financial situation, but i can't imagine we'd be anywhere near the cap.

J Will earns a packet, as does Mike D and Mike M, but guys like Pau, Strom and Battier are still on their rookie deals, whilst Lo Wright, Brevin and Wes Person are on relatively minimal deals.

With no max contracts and Big Country's contract finally gone, we must have money up our sleeves, surely.
 
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Originally posted by phatandphreaky
I'm sure the Grizz could match anything the Clippers put up.

I don't know our financial situation, but i can't imagine we'd be anywhere near the cap.


That's not the idea, Brand is restricted free agent. If the Clippers can match whatever the Grizz put up they keep him.

Originally posted by phatandphreaky
J Will earns a packet, as does Mike D and Mike M, but guys like Pau, Strom and Battier are still on their rookie deals, whilst Lo Wright, Brevin and Wes Person are on relatively minimal deals.

With no max contracts and Big Country's contract finally gone, we must have money up our sleeves, surely.

Memphis' Salaries

According to this, Reeves is still on the books for next year and the payroll of the Grizzlies increases. Your best bet would be a sign-and-trade for Stromile Swift, Wesley Person and a future first. Still, Gasol and Brand are both 4s are they not?
 
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Originally posted by Guey_34
You know something we don't? I can't see Brand going anywhere bar San Antonio or Denver if the Clips don't match his contract... but I'd wouldn't mind seeing a feasible scenario where he ends up at the Grizz.
I doubt Brand will come to SA. I don't know if Brand and Rose can co-exist in the same rotation. In the West, I'm not sure if Timmy and Brand would work...
 
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Originally posted by mattyc2422
I don't know if Brand and Rose can co-exist in the same rotation.

If you get Brand, Rose will have to make room for him. He's no chump, but this is Elton mofoing Brand we're discussing here, not Raef LaFrentz.
 
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Originally posted by Guey_34
If you get Brand, Rose will have to make room for him. He's no chump, but this is Elton mofoing Brand we're discussing here, not Raef LaFrentz.
But if we had Duncan, Brand and Rose as our main big men, we'd struggle defensively to match up on teams like Sacramento.
Hell, Brand is a great player, but I'm a little apprehensive.

Oh, and while we are talking about Dallas' tall white sticks, did we all see Shawn Bradley's move where he tried to attack the rim, only to stuff it up and then make an error on defense? :p
 
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Originally posted by Guey_34
That's not the idea, Brand is restricted free agent. If the Clippers can match whatever the Grizz put up they keep him.

I realise this. My point was that the Grizzlies should have the money to match and beat anything the rather tightarsed owner of the Clips could put up.



Originally posted by Guey_34


According to this, Reeves is still on the books for next year and the payroll of the Grizzlies increases.

We were given an injury exception for Big Country's contract some time back.
That site has some dodgy info on it, Mike Miller earns twice what Gasol does, yet this site lists Gasol as earning more.


Originally posted by Guey_34

Still, Gasol and Brand are both 4s are they not?

As i mentioned earlier, Gasol can easily play the 3. He simply played 4 because we needed his presence in the post.

Bringing in a Brand type would allow Pau to show more of his perimeter game from the 3 spot.
 

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Originally posted by Lockyer24
What type of PG is TJ Ford? Pass first..? Scorer...? What current player does he play like most?

Definitely a creative, pass first PG.

He's been compared to guys like Special K and Jamaal Tinsley. He's definitely a true PG.
 
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Originally posted by mattyc2422
But if we had Duncan, Brand and Rose as our main big men, we'd struggle defensively to match up on teams like Sacramento.
Hell, Brand is a great player, but I'm a little apprehensive.

Brand is only 6ft 8 but im pretty sure he has the wingspan of a 7 footer.Id love to see him with the Spurs.With his hard work Ethic,and quiet demenour would be a valuable addition.Plus he has never played on a winning team so he could blossom further.
 
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Originally posted by jerry springer
Brand is only 6ft 8 but im pretty sure he has the wingspan of a 7 footer.Id love to see him with the Spurs.With his hard work Ethic,and quiet demenour would be a valuable addition.Plus he has never played on a winning team so he could blossom further.

And Rose is only '6"6, I don't see how getting Brand would be any downgrade, particularly if the likes of Jermaine O'Neal cannot be added. Surely the Spurs would not go after Michael Olowokancer.
 
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Originally posted by phatandphreaky

That site has some dodgy info on it, Mike Miller earns twice what Gasol does, yet this site lists Gasol as earning more.

Miller was drafted the year before Gasol, correct me if I'm wrong, so he'd still be on his rookie contract. Now, Gasol was drafted at #4, so he'd be making more than Miller who was drafted mid-teens was he not? Again, correct me if I'm wrong, he may have got an extension or something like that.
 
Good job Guey.

Excellent picks and reasoning.

It certainly looks as though my team (the Celtics) would have a shot at either Barbosa, Ridnour or (I agree more likely) Collison. Either of which I would be happy with. I would be very happy with Perkins as the 2nd pick. Being a H.S. Senior I doubt he'd oust Battie straight away but I'd be looking two/three years down the road.

I little nice work if the FA and draft front, keep Paul and 'Tione and the Celts could be back in their rightful place (Champions that is.....)
 
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Originally posted by Guey_34
And Rose is only '6"6, I don't see how getting Brand would be any downgrade, particularly if the likes of Jermaine O'Neal cannot be added. Surely the Spurs would not go after Michael Olowokancer.
Brand wouldn't be a downgrade. I'm just curious of how it may affect the rotation in a potentially negative manner.

Kandi? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease no. ;)
 

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Originally posted by Guey_34


7 - Jarvis Hayes (Chicago)

Chicago pick up a much needed wing, who has, or is going to do a work out for the Bulls in the not too distant future. Mickael Pietrus could be a darkhorse for this selection, but John Paxson could deem Hayes more "NBA ready".


I like your picks here as these are the two guys I had in mind for the Bulls to pick up. Pietrus has been touted as the Euro Jordan? but Hayes is deemed more NBA ready. We cant go anywhere but a wing type player. Talls a sorted and we have a logjam at PG so it's only a SG/SF we would look at.

Im leaning towards Pietrus and he should last that long as I cant imagine him going top 5. Wouldnt mind taking TJ Ford either just because I like him :D But we are well covered in that area.

That Podoliakaskea?E?? Whatever his name is, the 7'4 300 pound Euro center...I have heard bad things about him and I doubt West would make a move for him considering how good a GM he is. I also doubt James will go at number 1, Im sure a lot of clubs have realised the hype is just all wrong and he will probably slip down to a second round. :D

Oh and a serious note...Collison would be hard done by to slip out of the top 12, Ive seen him numerous times this season and he has a lot of heart. Hinrich on the other hand is a worry, a pure shooter but unable to create his own show, which in today's NBA is so important.

Should be a great draft and I hope we actually get to see it this time.

Big ups to Guey on the effort of his mock draft.
 

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