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There has been more than enough said on the Hawthorn resurgence, and despite it being based on years of bottom dwelling and an abandonment of loyal players for draft picks, one has to admit that the process has been somewhat successful. Media personalities, club personnel and Hawks fans alike will tell you just how good this team is...from the dynamic key forwards Lance Franklin and Jarryd Roughead with support from Mark Williams, to the brilliant midfield led by Sam Mitchell, Luke Hodge, Brad Sewell and Jordan Lewis and the brilliant tactics of coach Alastair Clarkson, whose 'rolling zones' have caused opposition teams and coaches enormous headaches. We all know that the tactics basically involve the Hawks zoning off their players in such a way to ensure they own the corridor, constantly forcing opposition teams to go wide when they have the ball or face overwhelming numbers at the ball in the corridor.
A scrappy underpaid team with almost no budget, no home ground and a coach (whose temple throbs palpably in calm times let alone when that artery is put under stress) saw a way. The North Melbourne football club has shown the rest of the AFL just how to approach games against Hawthorn.
Not that the Saints needed any help tactically against the Hawks, they are our bitches and they know it.
Apart from the match where Hawthorn flooded us out of the match early last year, we have been completely dominant. Hawks supporters generally go into denial every time facts are used to demonstrate that their beliefs are not exactly consistent with reality. Just look at the scores of these matches - the highest score Hawthorn could muster against us was 90 and you have to go way back to 2003 to find it.
yet the Saints are regularly topping the ton. Clarkson's cluster be damned - the Saints to win this by 5 goals. Ross Lyon wont be credited with the win - the media will declare its an aberation for the Hawks on their way to certain glory 
On the Hawks Board they have a few threads corncerning us:
Poll: Do you think the Hawthorn-St Kilda clash will be as bad as last years?
Saints Match-ups. What I would like to see
Possible Team vs. St.Kilda.??
Hawks plan to attack Saints
Hawks plan to attack Saints
18/07/2008 2:18:55 PM
Brandon Cohen
Hawthorn coach Alastair Clarkson has promised a more attacking brand of football against St Kilda on Saturday night to the one that resulted in last year's 'snorefest'.
That game, in Round 8, saw just seven goals kicked to three-quarter time before the Hawks booted six goals in the last term to run out winners by 28 points. Of 291 marks taken that night, only 13 were contested.
While neither side accepted responsibility for a game that was dubbed by many in the media as 'ugly' and 'boring', Clarkson predicted a totally different mindset this weekend as both teams look to utilise their key marking forwards.
"I'm not sure how the game's going to unfold tomorrow night but both sides now want to play attacking footy," Clarkson said before a training session at a chilly Waverley Park on Friday.
"I reckon St Kilda have played their best footy when they've tried to run and carry the ball in recent weeks. They've got some talented players and it'll be another good test for us I'm sure."
"Every game is a significant challenge. St Kilda has been playing good footy the last three or four weeks. We're going to need to play really well against them to get the points."
Coincidentally, that Round 8 victory is Hawthorn's only win over the Saints in their past six meetings - yet another hoodoo the third-placed Hawks are hoping to break.
Should they do just that, it'll be just one more achievement they have notched up so far this season.
Last week they broke a six-match losing streak against Sydney and also toppled another bogey team in Round 12 when they defeated Adelaide at AAMI Stadium for the first time in 14 years.
The Hawks also broke their Gabba hoodoo earlier this season by beating Brisbane there for the first time in eight years.
Chance Bateman returns this weekend from a calf injury in another boost for the side following last week's return of Brad Sewell.
Veteran Shane Crawford won't be there, however, with Clarkson confirming the 1999 Brownlow Medallist was now a week-to-week proposition with knee tendonitis.
Last week the Hawks played host to the Swans:
Hawthorn 15.16.106 d Sydney 10.15.75
I had a look on the Swans Board and didn't find much that could be considered a comprehensive review of the match tactically, but this post is a decent comment on the match:
There has been more than enough said on the Hawthorn resurgence, and despite it being based on years of bottom dwelling and an abandonment of loyal players for draft picks, one has to admit that the process has been somewhat successful. Media personalities, club personnel and Hawks fans alike will tell you just how good this team is...from the dynamic key forwards Lance Franklin and Jarryd Roughead with support from Mark Williams, to the brilliant midfield led by Sam Mitchell, Luke Hodge, Brad Sewell and Jordan Lewis and the brilliant tactics of coach Alastair Clarkson, whose 'rolling zones' have caused opposition teams and coaches enormous headaches. We all know that the tactics basically involve the Hawks zoning off their players in such a way to ensure they own the corridor, constantly forcing opposition teams to go wide when they have the ball or face overwhelming numbers at the ball in the corridor.
A scrappy underpaid team with almost no budget, no home ground and a coach (whose temple throbs palpably in calm times let alone when that artery is put under stress) saw a way. The North Melbourne football club has shown the rest of the AFL just how to approach games against Hawthorn.
Not that the Saints needed any help tactically against the Hawks, they are our bitches and they know it.
Code:
# Year Rd Team Score vs Team Score Gnd Result Marg
1 2007 16 St Kilda 14.11 (95) vs Hawthorn 11.12 (78) TD WON 17
2 2007 8 St Kilda 6. 8 (44) vs Hawthorn 10.12 (72) MCG Lost [COLOR="Red"]28[/COLOR]
3 2006 13 St Kilda 18.17 (125) vs Hawthorn 8. 7 (55) TD WON 70
4 2005 12 St Kilda 15.10 (100) vs Hawthorn 8. 6 (54) MCG WON 46
5 2004 13 St Kilda 19.13 (127) vs Hawthorn 9. 7 (61) TD WON 66
6 2003 10 St Kilda 17.16 (118) vs Hawthorn 14. 6 (90) MCG WON 28
Apart from the match where Hawthorn flooded us out of the match early last year, we have been completely dominant. Hawks supporters generally go into denial every time facts are used to demonstrate that their beliefs are not exactly consistent with reality. Just look at the scores of these matches - the highest score Hawthorn could muster against us was 90 and you have to go way back to 2003 to find it.
yet the Saints are regularly topping the ton. Clarkson's cluster be damned - the Saints to win this by 5 goals. Ross Lyon wont be credited with the win - the media will declare its an aberation for the Hawks on their way to certain glory 
On the Hawks Board they have a few threads corncerning us:
Poll: Do you think the Hawthorn-St Kilda clash will be as bad as last years?
Saints Match-ups. What I would like to see
Possible Team vs. St.Kilda.??
Hawks plan to attack Saints
Hawks plan to attack Saints
18/07/2008 2:18:55 PM
Brandon Cohen
Hawthorn coach Alastair Clarkson has promised a more attacking brand of football against St Kilda on Saturday night to the one that resulted in last year's 'snorefest'.
That game, in Round 8, saw just seven goals kicked to three-quarter time before the Hawks booted six goals in the last term to run out winners by 28 points. Of 291 marks taken that night, only 13 were contested.
While neither side accepted responsibility for a game that was dubbed by many in the media as 'ugly' and 'boring', Clarkson predicted a totally different mindset this weekend as both teams look to utilise their key marking forwards.
"I'm not sure how the game's going to unfold tomorrow night but both sides now want to play attacking footy," Clarkson said before a training session at a chilly Waverley Park on Friday.
"I reckon St Kilda have played their best footy when they've tried to run and carry the ball in recent weeks. They've got some talented players and it'll be another good test for us I'm sure."
"Every game is a significant challenge. St Kilda has been playing good footy the last three or four weeks. We're going to need to play really well against them to get the points."
Coincidentally, that Round 8 victory is Hawthorn's only win over the Saints in their past six meetings - yet another hoodoo the third-placed Hawks are hoping to break.
Should they do just that, it'll be just one more achievement they have notched up so far this season.
Last week they broke a six-match losing streak against Sydney and also toppled another bogey team in Round 12 when they defeated Adelaide at AAMI Stadium for the first time in 14 years.
The Hawks also broke their Gabba hoodoo earlier this season by beating Brisbane there for the first time in eight years.
Chance Bateman returns this weekend from a calf injury in another boost for the side following last week's return of Brad Sewell.
Veteran Shane Crawford won't be there, however, with Clarkson confirming the 1999 Brownlow Medallist was now a week-to-week proposition with knee tendonitis.
Last week the Hawks played host to the Swans:
Hawthorn 15.16.106 d Sydney 10.15.75
I had a look on the Swans Board and didn't find much that could be considered a comprehensive review of the match tactically, but this post is a decent comment on the match:
on the weekend we had 180 kicks and 147 h/balls to my reckoning way too many h/balls on many occasions we came out of defence and had clear options 50 meters away and instead chose to h/ball in the backline not once or twice but every single time ending in constant turnovers and loss of confidence for our players. whats more up forward rok was matched on guerra (rok could easily sit on his head) but never got the chance to because we would not kick it long to a contest. Our effort was there both kirk and goodsey busted their guts craig did his best but with this game plan and the constant badly thought through match ups we will struggle to beat the cats hawks dogs and pies even the roos because their too good with their defensive pressure and were not good enough under pressure to pin point 11 meter passes to teammates surrounded by opposition players, i love roosey but his coaching and overall match ups against the top teams has been lacking just hope we can remedy this because players like kirk deserve better for their effort.
PN in the same game the hawks had 195 kicks to 88 h/balls thats how you win at the G







