Perth Stadium (Optus Stadium)

[Kwality]

Exactly and why would anyone choose Perth ?
There are plenty of nice cities around the world so you have to have some attraction.
People have to know about that attraction and the city has to live up to that perception
if you want return business.

Good summary of why WA Tourism justifies it role & why the new stadium is a policy tool.

INCREASED competition has begun to bite into the Perth hotel market, with cheaper room rates and the lowest occupancy levels in 12 years.

And the latest Deloitte Access Economics’ tourism and hotel market outlook report to be released today says the “bulge in the supply pipeline” will peak this year with another 720 hotel rooms to come online.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...w/news-story/f2a75d8cee6fd602c9e11ae50a09b1f8

 

[RedV3x]

Good summary of why WA Tourism justifies it role & why the new stadium is a policy tool.

INCREASED competition has begun to bite into the Perth hotel market, with cheaper room rates and the lowest occupancy levels in 12 years.

To put things in perspective, Tourism to W.A. is very low DESPITE Perth being a very nice city surrounded by some varied attractions.
There was a marketing push into Asia because of it's closeness and that seemed reasonably productive. I don't know the status a.t.m. but anecdotally it does seem to have stalled. For some reason the previous government ignored the cruise line industry and now cruises to Perth are going to drop from 60+ to 40+ per year. Packer added something like 600+ rooms at Burswood and when that was completed, in a case of massive Karma, as the Chinese igovernment mmediately shutdown access to it's high-rollers. Together with the continuing massive oversupply of hotel style accommodation there are plenty of bargains to be had in Perth hotels.

The new stadium coming online will provide a boost to tourism. It is a question of how big, from where and for how long. If we take the premise that people will use the stadium to come to Perth tor an event then it's reasonable for that to be only once a year. So that gives AFL 22+ matches, unknown number of cricket matches and one event each for the other codes. Entertainment events usually tour so there shouldn't be much tourism involved there. AFL is the major tenant by far and it looks like it will gross the most tourism by far. The government needs to work with football not against it. If prices are set to high then that could jeopardize any chance of any return (or even moving to the new stadium)

With hotel rates markedly down and modest ticket prices tourism will produce a boost but it will be nowhere near clawing back the cost of construction. As I posted before, the WA government only receives 1/3 of the GST for a ratio of 30:1. If we are extremely optimistic and say the speed of money is 50%(i.e. every second person immediately spends their windfall) then the ratio falls to 15:1 (by mathmatical progression), but that still means that tourists have to spend in Perth $15 million for the government to collect $1 million. That's a huge amount of money to expect from interstate or international tourists alone.

The necessity now, is to pay for the stadium because the federal government are not contributing one bit.

 

[wadistance]

Don't forget from next year Perth will grow as Australia's hub to Europe, so most people that fly to Australia will probably come direct to Perth. Whether they stay on for a week or continue to the east is anyone's guess, but in the next 3 years the west will never have been as accessible to Europe

 

[Kwality]

Don't forget from next year Perth will grow as Australia's hub to Europe, so most people that fly to Australia will probably come direct to Perth. Whether they stay on for a week or continue to the east is anyone's guess, but in the next 3 years the west will never have been as accessible to Europe

Not sure the stadium will be a factor though.

 

[jatz14]

You evading the question.

No, he is phrasing the question correctly. You are making an assertion, it is for you to back up the assertion. Asking instead for people to justify their lack of agreement is classic deflection.

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[wadistance]

Not sure the stadium will be a factor though.

Maybe not, but I don't just go to Germany to watch Borussia Dortmund. But every time I've gone to a European city I've checked out what football/other sport is on and gone along. If they come in football season and decide to go because the tour guides say see a game of AFL in Australia's newest and best sports stadium, I'm sure they might

 

[RedV3x]

Don't forget from next year Perth will grow as Australia's hub to Europe, so most people that fly to Australia will probably come direct to Perth.

That wont make a great deal of difference at all. The flight time is nearly the same. It will depend yet again on pricing and seating. I actually like the stop in Dubai as a chance to recover. I much prefer the "mixed" flights sometimes available from Singapore.
There is no logical reason that people will spend extra time in Perth solely because they arrive on a direct flight. There is absolutely no logical reason why why this will impact on the new stadium.

 

[RedV3x]

If they come in football season and decide to go because the tour guides say see a game of AFL in Australia's newest and best sports stadium, I'm sure they might

Yes, that already happens that some international tourists will add AFL to their tourism experience.
The stadium being in a prominent position on the route to the airport will add to interest.
WA tourism will probably up it's AFL pitch from lacklustre to uplifting now that they have a stadium that isn't soldout. Again, nobody's holding their breath on the amount of benefit to be generated.

 

[Underdog]

With hotel rates markedly down and modest ticket prices tourism will produce a boost but it will be nowhere near clawing back the cost of construction. As I posted before, the WA government only receives 1/3 of the GST for a ratio of 30:1. If we are extremely optimistic and say the speed of money is 50%(i.e. every second person immediately spends their windfall) then the ratio falls to 15:1 (by mathmatical progression), but that still means that tourists have to spend in Perth $15 million for the government to collect $1 million. That's a huge amount of money to expect from interstate or international tourists alone.

The necessity now, is to pay for the stadium because the federal government are not contributing one bit.

Do people generally expect the stadium construction costs to be recovered? I don't. I consider it a piece of infrastructure built to better the lives of residents, like hospitals and roads do.

Whether that outlay is recovered or not, doesn't really concern me.

 

[madmug]

Ive never been to Perth. The new link to Europe interests me as depending on costs etc I'll look strongly at going via Perth rather than Singapore or Dubai next year. I'd love to get to the new stadium.
If Tassie had an AFL team I would probably have been to Perth by now. FK the AFL.

 

[RedV3x]

Do people generally expect the stadium construction costs to be recovered? I don't. I consider it a piece of infrastructure built to better the lives of residents, like hospitals and roads do.
Whether that outlay is recovered or not, doesn't really concern me.

I agree, it would be great if government took that attitude.

 

[wadistance]

they do on AFL evolution if its any consolation

Ive never been to Perth. The new link to Europe interests me as depending on costs etc I'll look strongly at going via Perth rather than Singapore or Dubai next year. I'd love to get to the new stadium.
If Tassie had an AFL team I would probably have been to Perth by now. FK the AFL.

 

[Billy ray]

For Ed Sheeran concert...

 

[hitthepost]

For Ed Sheeran concert...

Does one guy, a guitar, and a loop pedal need a stage that big? Could fit way more people in!

 

[my name was taken]

Does one guy, a guitar, and a loop pedal need a stage that big? Could fit way more people in!

Stick him in one of those wider seats in the stand.

 

[Admiral Byng]

Does one guy, a guitar, and a loop pedal need a stage that big? Could fit way more people in!

think of it as a test run before they get a real band in with 3 plane loads of lighting and kit

 

[BartBart]

Going to test lights tonight

 

[BartBart]

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[Admiral Byng]

where's the purple?

 

[BartBart]

They were rotating through those 3 colours plus white. That photo was blurry, so didn't bother with it.
Purple understandably not considered worthy of use.

 

[JohnZ]

where's the purple?

I know the purple reference is in jest to a degree. Red, green and blue are the 3 LED colours which make up the light spectrum. This test is for dead pixels, or pixels which don't update properly. Same with white test (all 3 leds on) to see if it looks white or if a colour dominates.

 

[seanoff]

Don't forget from next year Perth will grow as Australia's hub to Europe, so most people that fly to Australia will probably come direct to Perth. Whether they stay on for a week or continue to the east is anyone's guess, but in the next 3 years the west will never have been as accessible to Europe

A single aircraft type (787) at the very limit of its range, with possibly limited numbers on one airline and at most 1 flight a day is going to make SFA difference to anything.

 

[WestCoast05]

Different configurations of Perth Stadium:

 

[BartBart]

A single aircraft type (787) at the very limit of its range, with possibly limited numbers on one airline and at most 1 flight a day is going to make SFA difference to anything.

There is talk London is only the first of a few destinations.

 

[wadistance]

you're missing the point. its not the one flight per day thats going to make a difference, its opening up europes eyes to perth, and potentially having more people visiting the area that can add to the mix of sports tourism along with others