The off topic thread #2

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Every politian running for a top job will have a huge team behind them.

There is so much shit on Trump I can't possibly see how he can win this election

Lol I didn't mean it as a criticism, just an observation. It makes him more credible. Which from my perspective is bad.

 

[Cooldude]

Can't bear to listen to Trump, talks like Palin but dumber, which is quite something

Thought he was his usual self here, obviously tried to appear more human at the beginning but slowly lost it and go back to his usual idiot self, he just can't keep it in for 90 mins straight, impossible for him

The fact that Clinton hasn't put him away speaks volumes about her as a candidate

 

[WealstoneRaider]

Lol I didn't mean it as a criticism, just an observation. It makes him more credible. Which from my perspective is bad.

Clinton is just as bad though - that permanent false smile just makes me cringe. As I said originally, they are both poor candidates.

 

[SM]

Clinton is just as bad though - that permanent false smile just makes me cringe. As I said originally, they are both poor candidates.

Yep, worst two which is scary.

 

[SM]

Can't bear to listen to Trump, talks like Palin but dumber, which is quite something

Thought he was his usual self here, obviously tried to appear more human at the beginning but slowly lost it and go back to his usual idiot self, he just can't keep it in for 90 mins straight, impossible for him

The fact that Clinton hasn't put him away speaks volumes about her as a candidate

Yep, my comment came about ten minutes in or something close. But yeah as it went on he couldn't help himself.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

Trump going for the popular vote by saying he's gonna make America great again, enforce law and order, crack down on immigration, tackle terrorism, but the problem he's got he givestoo many sound bites and not enough details on how he's going to do it.

 

[Fryer Tuck]

Yep, worst two which is scary.

Established profile goes a very long way in securing a higher base for both. I wouldn't be surprised if there are some people that are just voting on a name basis in the US without any consideration on anything else (plus the usual party biasesness.)

 

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Established profile goes a very long way in securing a higher base for both. I wouldn't be surprised if there are some people that are just voting on a name basis in the US without any consideration on anything else (plus the usual party biasesness.)

While that's true it doesn't explain why Jeb did so poorly.

 

[Cooldude]

Trump just had to squeeze in Rosie O'Donnell in there somewhere, didn't he?

He got killed, but the way this elections' been going that probably means he'll rise in the polls

 

[Cruyff14]

Says he's not going to argue with me and try and change my mind then proceeds to do exactly that!

You're a classic Cruyffy!

I'm pleased you like him I really am. Everyone needs passions in life. Just to me he's so bloody dull. I reckon if I worked in New Jersey as a docker (if they still exist) then I might get it. Good for you though - I hope you enjoy the show and have those lighters at the ready

Don't really think I argued at all, but fair enough.

Bit of a generalisation, but again, fair enough.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

Any reasoned commentator could see Clinton won that debate, but it's how the general populous sees it, and they're turning away from the insincere, highly polished rhetoric that a Clinton gives, and are more open to a Trump approach which they see as impassioned and more sincere. Will be interesting to see how it plays out. I think Clinton will edge slightly more ahead after round one. Trump needs to lessen his personal attacks and focus more on policies next time

 

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Any reasoned commentator could see Clinton won that debate, but it's how the general populous sees it, and they're turning away from the insincere, highly polished rhetoric that a Clinton gives, and are more open to a Trump approach which they see as impassioned and more sincere. Will be interesting to see how it plays out. I think Clinton will edge slightly more ahead after round one. Trump needs to lessen his personal attacks and focus more on policies next time

Which is ****ing stupid when trump is more insincere than Clinton. He's all hot air.

 

[Fryer Tuck]

While that's true it doesn't explain why Jeb did so poorly.

*Does America really need another Bush? Especially that idiot Junior Bush that is considered the worst, sorry, 2nd worst president of all time? (Serious Note: Didn't Hilary have a decent reputation prior to the elections? At least she did have a reputation. Jeb's one wasn't as clear cut (though ironically in that George Bush episode in the Simpsons, he was the more well known one (The creators admitted they didn't even know George Bush Jr was a thing))

*What's the difference between Jeb and Junior? Umm... one's called Jeb... he's as stupid as the rest of them, I bet. (It sounded like he made no attempt to separate himself from his brother, who had a poor reputation. I can see people turning away from that.)

*Florida won Junior the 2000 election... wait... Jeb was Governer of Florida. Rigged! He's gonna cheat us Yanks out of our money! (People do seem to remember the Florida result, and combined with the stigma it has with the Bush name... yeah...)

Hopefully that's a decent explanation of that thought process.

 

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*Does America really need another Bush? Especially that idiot Junior Bush that is considered the worst, sorry, 2nd worst president of all time? (Serious Note: Didn't Hilary have a decent reputation prior to the elections? At least she did have a reputation. Jeb's one wasn't as clear cut (though ironically in that George Bush episode in the Simpsons, he was the more well known one (The creators admitted they didn't even know George Bush Jr was a thing))

*What's the difference between Jeb and Junior? Umm... one's called Jeb... he's as stupid as the rest of them, I bet. (It sounded like he made no attempt to separate himself from his brother, who had a poor reputation. I can see people turning away from that.)

*Florida won Junior the 2000 election... wait... Jeb was Governer of Florida. Rigged! He's gonna cheat us Yanks out of our money! (People do seem to remember the Florida result, and combined with the stigma it has with the Bush name... yeah...)

Hopefully that's a decent explanation of that thought process.

Clinton had Benghazi, her reputation really wasn't that positive. She basically rode in on her last name and recognise ability, which I thought should have reflected in Jeb doing better with his last name therefore association with the establishment.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

Which is ******* stupid when trump is more insincere than Clinton. He's all hot air.

I think they are as bad as each other. Clinton is so slimey you know she's a total bitch and all the smiling and stuff is an act. And Trump, Jesus he is bent as anything. You wonder how the **** these two ended up being the nominated candidates

 

[Fryer Tuck]

Clinton had Benghazi, her reputation really wasn't that positive. She basically rode in on her last name and recognise ability, which I thought should have reflected in Jeb doing better with his last name therefore association with the establishment.

A valid point, she did take the blame for that.

But how many of those 'voters' are fully aware of that? Maybe the more politically inclined, otherwise that incident seems a little lost amongst the usual campaigns.

She definitely rode her last name, but I don't think Jeb separated himself (at least from what I heard) from Junior enough, and that presidency is still fresh in the mind. Clinton is far more favourably remembered then Junior.

 

[SM]

I think they are as bad as each other. Clinton is so slimey you know she's a total bitch and all the smiling and stuff is an act. And Trump, Jesus he is bent as anything. You wonder how the **** these two ended up being the nominated candidates

To be honest everything I've heard is she's surprisingly nice in person. All her ex staffers say she's nice. There was some interview where they got ex staffers for a bunch of Presidents and some bad mouthed them some got positive feedback and apparently she's much nicer and down to earth in person.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

Don't really think I argued at all, but fair enough.

Bit of a generalisation, but again, fair enough.

im only pulling your leg mate. I don't mind Springsteen - not one of my all time favs though has to be said.

I tell you a track i love, the live version (2001 NYC I think) of Youngstown. So much better than the studio. Also like most loved his BitUSA album. Also love the live version of the River that I have

 

[WealstoneRaider]

To be honest everything I've heard is she's surprisingly nice in person. All her ex staffers say she's nice. There was some interview where they got ex staffers for a bunch of Presidents and some bad mouthed them some got positive feedback and apparently she's much nicer and down to earth in person.

I've heard the very opposite. I've worked for politicians and I know what many are like behind closed doors. She displays many of the same signs in public that some of the worst MP's I worked for or heard about had.

 

[Cooldude]

I just dont see how Trump appeals to anyone bar hilllbilly rednecks & the business elite.

Most of the rich boys hate his guts, coz they know how he does things and that he's really just a con man. Loads of them has flocked to the Clinton campaign, although a few of them were there long ago

And Trump hates them coz they're all richer than him

 

[jod23]

Yeah, I think he has depression. They'll defo strip him of the belts and just have AJ vs Wlad for the spoils

Geez I wonder if AJ wants that fight yet. He did say he wanted to get names on his resume now, not particularly belts. But if a fight is put before you for all the marbles, I guess you take it.

Weak from Fury to just give everything up. I think he's a bum anyways, terrible fighter so he is probably avoiding the embarrassment of getting beat up.

 

[jod23]

I didnt watch the debate but every news outlet is running with Clinton absolutely smashing him.

That's good I guess.

The best thing about Hilary Clinton is that she isnt Donald Trump. That's pretty damning for America, but it is what it is.

 

[Cruyff14]

im only pulling your leg mate. I don't mind Springsteen - not one of my all time favs though has to be said.

I tell you a track i love, the live version (2001 NYC I think) of Youngstown. So much better than the studio. Also like most loved his BitUSA album. Also love the live version of the River that I have

Yeah, that is a ripping version. It's got even better these last few years. Nils is a wizard on the guitar.

BITUSA has some great tunes. When he played that live in full, it was the most fun show I've been to.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Absolutely he can. Should have had an extra 2 TD's this season already but our WR's drop the most easy of passes. It's embarrassing.

By the way, the Steelers are a good side and we ripped them to shreds.

people thought the Texans were good until last week. Things will become clearer by midseason.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Trump is one of the worst businessman of all time.