The off topic thread

[WealstoneRaider]

I do, but they don't spring to mind when forming a Top Ten list to be honest. I loved Good Will Hunting, Dead Poet's Society, Scent of a Woman, and others but they don't spring to mind as favourites of mine as I've probably only seen each maybe twice. I guess it depends on what sort of list we're forming.

I thought the only criteria was your favourite ten films. Films like Die Hard etc are good entertainment and have a "rewatchability" factor but that's about it. They have nothing to say of note. They're mainly designed to cash in at the box office. That's the problem with the film industry of today. There's hardly anything made that has a deeper message

 

[Cooldude]

Really?

LOTR is awesome. Incredible feat of cinema. The effects certainly stand up although even on release I never rated the green ghosts thing in part three.

I like LOTR but it definitely has not aged well comparing to the CGI techniques today, loads of the old age smoke and mirrors trickery with camera angles and shit, it was great then but definitely stick out like a sore thumb nowadays

 

[SM]

I thought the only criteria was your favourite ten films. Films like Die Hard etc are good entertainment and have a "rewatchability" factor but that's about it. They have nothing to say of note. They're mainly designed to cash in at the box office. That's the problem with the film industry if today. There's hardly anything made that has a deeper message

Favourite meaning most enjoyable, so movies that are rewatchable and enjoyable will likely make my list.

Funnily enough half the movies on my list are from the 70s and 80s so not sure how that's an indictment on the film industry today!

 

[WealstoneRaider]

Favourite meaning most enjoyable, so movies that are rewatchable and enjoyable will likely make my list.

Funnily enough half the movies on my list are from the 70s and 80s so not sure how that's an indictment on the film industry today!

Thats fine. I was just surprised by your choice of films. Nothing wrong with a shoot em up

 

[Fryer Tuck]

Disagree hugely on The Hobbit trilogy being better than LOTR. Hobbit trilogy was still good but nothing compared to the genius of LOTR.

Agree with BTTF. Genius trilogy but if we're talking trilogies, then original Indy trilogy is absolutely legit.

The Hobbits of LOTR killed like half of those movies for me. You remove those scenes, and the film is more bearable. I had no investment in any of the Hobbits, and if I don't have that for the characters, you anin't going nowhere.

I take as much as I can from the plot and setting, I like it to be the complete package. Sheer scale means nothing if I can find flaws in the thing.

I thought the only criteria was your favourite ten films. Films like Die Hard etc are good entertainment and have a "rewatchability" factor but that's about it. They have nothing to say of note. They're mainly designed to cash in at the box office. That's the problem with the film industry of today. There's hardly anything made that has a deeper message

That depends on your definition of deep. I'd argue and say that Zootopia and to a lesser extent Wreck-It Ralph does have important messages, but also notable flaws in their characters that make the story, and yet it is made for a general audience.

I mean, we all have our definitions of what our favourite movies are. If yours involves that deeper message, then more power there.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

That depends on your definition of deep. I'd argue and say that Zootopia and to a lesser extent Wreck-It Ralph does have important messages, but also notable flaws in their characters that make the story, and yet it is made for a general audience.

I mean, we all have our definitions of what our favourite movies are. If yours involves that deeper message, then more power there.

I can't comment on either of those films having not seen them.

Of course we will all differ to some degree on what our favourite films are, which is great. But seeing as this is a discussion board, then it makes sense that I am entitled to give an opinion as I see fit.

 

[Fryer Tuck]

I can't comment on either of those films having not seen them.

Of course we will all differ to some degree on what our favourite films are, which is great. But seeing as this is a discussion board, then it makes sense that I am entitled to give an opinion as I see fit.

Fair enough. But I just wanted to note that the Disney movies seem to be carrying those messages more and more. Can't speak for the others, mind.

Of course, tis the whole point. If we all agreed, then what's the blooming point?

Speaking of, I noticed that some of your films include ones about the Holocaust and the life of working class British youth. I do wonder on your opinion on a film like Hotel Rwanda, and if you perhaps favour films that focus a little more closer to home over a well made and crafted plot? (Granted, you could say that the best plots do often have that factor about them, but that's a bit subjective.)

 

[UnitedWarrior93]

I like LOTR but it definitely has not aged well comparing to the CGI techniques today, loads of the old age smoke and mirrors trickery with camera angles and shit, it was great then but definitely stick out like a sore thumb nowadays

I've watched the movies recently and think they hold up fine. Got the blu-ray box set. Got to remember the first one started filming in 1999.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

Fair enough. But I just wanted to note that the Disney movies seem to be carrying those messages more and more. Can't speak for the others, mind.

Of course, tis the whole point. If we all agreed, then what's the blooming point?

Speaking of, I noticed that some of your films include ones about the Holocaust and the life of working class British youth. I do wonder on your opinion on a film like Hotel Rwanda, and if you perhaps favour films that focus a little more closer to home over a well made and crafted plot? (Granted, you could say that the best plots do often have that factor about them, but that's a bit subjective.)

I suppose having British sensibilities means that I would gravitate more to British films than say you guys would. Of course the US dominates the film industry internationally, and therefore a lot of US films also make my list.

Even as I kid Ive always liked films that I could relate to in some way (Quadrophenia for example) or films with depth (Brazil, 2001) to your typical "action" film. Wouldn't say thats necessarily a generational thing, but I am aware of the tricks Hollywood plays in getting audiences hooked on the drivel they put out now.

When I watch a Tarrantino film now, it's a completely different experience to when I watched Pulp Fiction or Reservoir Dogs 20 years ago.

Not seen Hotel Rwanda. Might give it a go

 

[Fryer Tuck]

I suppose having British sensibilities means that I would gravitate more to British films than say you guys would. Of course the US dominates the film industry internationally, and therefore a lot of US films also make my list.

Even as I kid Ive always liked films that I could relate to in some way (Quadrophenia for example) or films with depth (Brazil, 2001) to your typical "action" film. Wouldn't say thats necessarily a generational thing, but I am aware of the tricks Hollywood plays in getting audiences hooked on the drivel they put out now.

When I watch a Tarrantino film now, it's a completely different experience to when I watched Pulp Fiction or Reservoir Dogs 20 years ago.

Not seen Hotel Rwanda. Might give it a go

That’s a fair point, I suppose there is that bias when a film does take place here (of course as an Aussie, that’s trickier to find a good Aussie film, but they’ve done some good efforts in recent times.)


Quadrophenia, I think my friend is a fan of that one. That’s about the only time I have ever heard of the film. Brazil of course. I know what you mean, doing their best to manpulate the emotions but it comes off as a ‘death for the sake of it,’ I’ve just been through a few of those, actually.

I do like different if its well-executed, and not for the sake of some corny message or cheap escape.

I think I’ve seen too many parodies of both those films to seriously watch them and appreciate them. Neither film had much impact on me (I’ve seen waaaay too many SLJ parodies too.)


Definitely should, think it would be up your ally. Though I admit when watching Iron Man 2, it took a while to not see Rhodey as the Rwanadan Hotel Manager (Don Chedle does put in a pretty good performance, though I’ll admit its about 10 years since I last saw it.) Covers the 1994 Genocide pretty well, and also highlighted exactly how significant that event was. Also taught me that Belgium did have colonies back then before I read Tintin in the Congo, which lead to King Leopold… oh yes…

 

[Doctor Bojan_]

That bloke is a joke. I just watched the Klitschko fight. What a shit fight that was. Fury fights with one arm down the whole time. Neither bloke every land anything serious at all. Both look almost the same as when the fight started.

I think Anthony Joshua would knock Fury the **** out.

Heavyweights are shit. That's why they rarely get PPV money. They don't even try. The Klitschko's have ruined the sport in the heavyweight division. I'd pay good money to watch a young Lennox Lewis now. He'd destroy those absolute frauds.

 

[Doctor Bojan_]

Yes true. The film clip for Smack My Bitch Up was something else entirely. I still have it on VHS somewhere. $7.95 from Brashes.




That ending. Magnificent.

wow. That's amazing.

 

[Fryer Tuck]

Man, I am slow on this bit of news: The Rams moved back to LA... after 21 long years. It was bound to happen, but we've finally got a team in LA again.

also, the original Postman Pat died.

 

[Doctor Bojan_]

Man, I am slow on this bit of news: The Rams moved back to LA... after 21 long years. It was bound to happen, but we've finally got a team in LA again.

also, the original Postman Pat died.

you live in WA?

 

[Fryer Tuck]

you live in WA?

Baker Island. I'm so far back I'm 2 days behind my close neighbour to the West.

 

[Zidane98]

No love for Speed in anyones top 10 movies? The original action thriller.

 

[Loonerty]

I thought the only criteria was your favourite ten films. Films like Die Hard etc are good entertainment and have a "rewatchability" factor but that's about it. They have nothing to say of note. They're mainly designed to cash in at the box office. That's the problem with the film industry of today. There's hardly anything made that has a deeper message

Why are they mutually exclusive? Why can't someone's favourite movie be one that is good entertainment?

 

[glenferry23]

No love for Speed in anyones top 10 movies? The original action thriller.

 

[glenferry23]

wow. That's amazing.

First time you've seen it? The original uncensored version was about 7 minutes long, a shitload more heroin use etc. Caused a stir at the time and I don't even think MTV or Rage could show it back then.

For now, forget about it. It would cause mayhem.

 

[Doctor Bojan_]

Baker Island. I'm so far back I'm 2 days behind my close neighbour to the West.

2 days? The Rams to LA was a foregone conclusion about 2 years ago.....

 

[Doctor Bojan_]

No love for Speed in anyones top 10 movies? The original action thriller.

sandra bullock can gagf and keanu reeves isn't an actors arseh*le.

 

[Doctor Bojan_]

First time you've seen it? The original uncensored version was about 7 minutes long, a shitload more heroin use etc. Caused a stir at the time and I don't even think MTV or Rage could show it back then.

For now, forget about it. It would cause mayhem.

yeah, first time. I always wondered why I saw the clip to 'firestarter' on rage/mtv sooooo much but never saw the one for smack my bitch up. Now I know why. I love trainspotting and it looks like a scene that could fit seamlessly into the film which is why i probably like it.

You can't show needles in someones arm these day.

 

[Fryer Tuck]

2 days? The Rams to LA was a foregone conclusion about 2 years ago.....

Maybe on paper, but this is the first official season they're actually going under the LA Rams name. With the NFL, it's just a switch off until you get close to the season, and then it's all like, 'Oh, you're finally back in LA now?'

It's weird, I knew of the Charlotte Hornets coming back, but didn't really think of the LA Rams.

 

[Doctor Bojan_]

Maybe on paper, but this is the first official season they're actually going under the LA Rams name. With the NFL, it's just a switch off until you get close to the season, and then it's all like, 'Oh, you're finally back in LA now?'

It's weird, I knew of the Charlotte Hornets coming back, but didn't really think of the LA Rams.

kroenke bought the land to build the stadium a couple of years ago which is why everyone knew it was a foregone conclusion. He spent a few bill on it too. Sorry Arsenal fans.

 

[chef]

First time you've seen it? The original uncensored version was about 7 minutes long, a shitload more heroin use etc. Caused a stir at the time and I don't even think MTV or Rage could show it back then.

For now, forget about it. It would cause mayhem.

Yeah, it wasn't on any TV station. I had a mate who had it and thats about it.