The possibility of Essendon innocence: a travesty of justice or conspiracy theory for the ages?

[The Donners]

hand on dick springs to mind

Sounds you need a partner.

 

[HairyO]

The Herald Sun is as legitimate as an anti vaxxer website.

Essendon supporters are like hippies who dont trust doctors but will buy acid from strangers.

 

[gingernuts]

Sounds you need a partner.

cant get this sill playing with one

 

[hawker11]

With all of the years that have gone by did anyone in the media put to the players "why didn't you jot down the injections on the ASADA forms you fill out every week?".

Did any of the players actually respond to this important question?

A high volume of injections, no records, and we all were supposed to believe they were innocent...

 

[ThirtyFive]

With all of the years that have gone by did anyone in the media put to the players "why didn't you jot down the injections on the ASADA forms you fill out every week?".

Did any of the players actually respond to this important question?

A high volume of injections, no records, and we all were supposed to believe they were innocent...

Lemmings in the crazy, manipulative world of Dr. Moreau and associates....

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Victory..that’s the outcome we will have.

We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.

Who are you fighting though?

That's the part I don't get.

 

[branedotorg]

Was still injections though and no one could prove what was in those either.

There was a possible link (cable/low burden of proof) that players were given TB4 but they couldn’t tell who did and who didn’t, no idea.

Which is in itself a breach of multiple laws including the health records Act in Victoria.

Along with the club's contractors breaching various federal Medicare related laws and ama rules

If you read the Middleton judgement* the whole argument Essendon put forward wasn't reasonable doubt but that ASADA didn't have jurisdiction.

*https://www.judgments.fedcourt.gov.au/judgments/Judgments/fca/single/2014/2014fca1019

 

[SunshineBoy]

?

The players took banned drugs.

What else is there really to see?


They were conned by the club? Well derrr.

Watching Essendon supporters 'support the boys' and 'stand by Hird' whilst also 'supporting the club' is just so mindblowingly difficult to comprehend.



Who do they think injected these kids with banned drugs FFS???

 

[SunshineBoy]

With all of the years that have gone by did anyone in the media put to the players "why didn't you jot down the injections on the ASADA forms you fill out every week?".

Did any of the players actually respond to this important question?

A high volume of injections, no records, and we all were supposed to believe they were innocent...

We don’t need to believe innocence , on the WADA site they were all guilty, it’s on the 8nterweb

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Which is in itself a breach of multiple laws including the health records Act in Victoria.

Along with the club's contractors breaching various federal Medicare related laws and ama rules

If you read the Middleton judgement* the whole argument Essendon put forward wasn't reasonable doubt but that ASADA didn't have jurisdiction.

*https://www.judgments.fedcourt.gov.au/judgments/Judgments/fca/single/2014/2014fca1019

No laws were broken. Or else 12 other clubs would’ve been charged. Even Dermie said in one year he received over a hundred injections.

Middleton case was Hird argument that Afl and ASADA has no power to conduct the case. Was a waste of time that Hird proceeded.

 

[rmcq]

The further in the past this sorry saga gets, the more incredulous it becomes.

An AFL club injected 34 players systematically with no records or even club knowledge of what they were injected with, against medical advice.

It is truly hard to believe.

 

[Gavin Excell]

The further in the past this sorry saga gets, the more incredulous it becomes.

An AFL club injected 34 players systematically with no records or even club knowledge of what they were injected with, against medical advice.

It is truly hard to believe.

Club knows what they injected them with. Records were destroyed

 

[Marcel Proust]

Oh ggod. this is back

Its important to remember bomber fans - you were already crap before you got sprung. This was just a distraction

jobe magically went from fat plodder to charlie 'winner'

 

[STFU Donnie]

It always helps to have a qualified doctor doing the injecting on site and keeping meticulous records so if ASADA come sniffing around you have a paper trail.

Instead EFC had every Carlton supporters favourite Bomber, Dean Wallis filling out the spreadsheet while he was banned from coaching due to betting on games. Clearly not the sharpest tool in the shed that one.

It's fantabulously stupid, the whole saga. If you wrote it as a work of fiction, no publisher would touch it.

 

[Vindicater]

jobe magically went from fat plodder to charlie 'winner'

I am one of the few Essendon fans who openly said we cheated right from when this came out. We cheated 100%.

Having said that, people need to go take a look at the years before 2012. Jobe was buidoing form over tIme. He did not magically get better in one season.

 

[STFU Donnie]

Look out, Bruce Francis has emerged from one finger typing his magnum opus in his basement and is ready to go BANG!

And Cornes, with his one (defective) brain cell is his champion.

 

[Marcel Proust]

I am one of the few Essendon fans who openly said we cheated right from when this came out. We cheated 100%.

Having said that, people need to go take a look at the years before 2012. Jobe was buidoing form over tIme. He did not magically get better in one season.

it suits my agenda though

 

[STFU Donnie]

I am one of the few Essendon fans who openly said we cheated right from when this came out. We cheated 100%.

Having said that, people need to go take a look at the years before 2012. Jobe was buidoing form over tIme. He did not magically get better in one season.

I agree and said so also at the time. Watson's progression upwards was steady and not unreasonable. As for some of the others...

 

[STFU Donnie]

All we need now is an Andrew Bolt article.

 

[STFU Donnie]

Who are you fighting though?

That's the part I don't get.

It's all very Don Quixote like, isn't it?

 

[Allikat]

jobe magically went from fat plodder to charlie 'winner'

and when the injections stopped went back to not as fat anymore plodder

 

[Marcel Proust]

All we need now is an Andrew Bolt article.

'Why I think we should be allowed have South African slaves & Essendon have been stitched up'

 

[calman]

Heard from someone with similar connections that they were lucky TB4 was the only thing that was substantiated, the hole could have been much deeper had they been able to use a different shovel

Heard the same thing from an employee within the AFL tribunal system, annoying thing, is he does not give out any information, except one cryptic comment which was
" There is more to play out than just TB4 ", he then realised what he said and I have got nothing out of him for 6 years

 

[legend166]

You'd think with all we know about mental health these days the media would stop indulging Bruce Francis.

 

[evo]

All we need now is an Andrew Bolt article.

It would be nice to see Sam Newman weigh in as well.