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[StFly]

Spain would be out in front of Russia by a long way. China and Russia have been pretty weak in foreign influence considering. Russia created buffers to keep Europe away.

If I had to pick a top 3 and thinking per capita sort of mass people things in empire days;

Mongols - golden horde did some work.
Babylonians - they existed for a while, Assryan Empire spanned for a while.
The Huns - before Rome and after Rome, entire continents.

Would be my top 3.

Things like WW1 and WW2 and say the Punics and Persians and such, these would pale in comparison to total world pop and where things were centalised to say Mongols went from one side of that landmass to the other essentially. The entire north of it, then had too collapse all the way back to the east.

France would then next given Napoleon tried a few times, England a few times, France did France a few times, it was just an all round when in doubt Europ & Asia has been unified longer under Empires and the rest of the world doesn't matter.

 

[gringo2011]

If I had to pick a top 3 and thinking per capita sort of mass people things in empire days;

Mongols - golden horde did some work.
Babylonians - they existed for a while, Assryan Empire spanned for a while.
The Huns - before Rome and after Rome, entire continents.

Would be my top 3.

Things like WW1 and WW2 and say the Punics and Persians and such, these would pale in comparison to total world pop and where things were centalised to say Mongols went from one side of that landmass to the other essentially. The entire north of it, then had too collapse all the way back to the east.

France would then next given Napoleon tried a few times, England a few times, France did France a few times, it was just an all round when in doubt Europ & Asia has been unified longer under Empires and the rest of the world doesn't matter.

I was more talking in a more modern geopolitical sense. Russians sent an operating system more than troops and the ideology was largely European. China is a soft diplomacy state that gets you into a debt trap more than brutalise.

The US is far and away the most destructive empire of the 20th century. Their financial parasite economic model gets you if you ally with them, their bombs and regime change model get you if you resist.

 

[StFly]

I was more talking in a more modern geopolitical sense. Russians sent an operating system more than troops and the ideology was largely European. China is a soft diplomacy state that gets you into a debt trap more than brutalise.

The US is far and away the most destructive empire of the 20th century. Their financial parasite economic model gets you if you ally with them, their bombs and regime change model get you if you resist.

Disagree there.

Russia have a pretty much bang on media arm and subterfuge set up, people and things everywhere to believe whatever they want to an extent. Everything else is on fire and has been for decades, they just sell the story that it's fine, this is meant to be on fire as we're manly men and we don't need plumbing, we dig holes and drink vodka to spill our shit.

China is also not democratic at all, in any regard, just Russia is the "stupid" communist who went "Power? YES PLEASE" whereas China went 'Power? well I have it but don't tell anyone about it. SSSSSHH" in their governance. This is also why the west views them as the larger threat cause, China learns, Russia is stupid and easy to counter if they didn't have 5k nukes in reserve.

And eh really.

Russia pissfarts around in Africa.
USA pissfarts around in the Middle East.
Israel for eg is a UN creation from the Palestine solution on their end, thus;
The entire west screws with the Middle East. Blood on all hands, not just the USA.

Also, Dragonfire and Tryzub > Helios.

 

[gringo2011]

Disagree there.

Russia have a pretty much bang on media arm and subterfuge set up, people and things everywhere to believe whatever they want to an extent. Everything else is on fire and has been for decades, they just sell the story that it's fine, this is meant to be on fire as we're manly men and we don't need plumbing, we dig holes and drink vodka to spill our shit.

China is also not democratic at all, in any regard, just Russia is the "stupid" communist who went "Power? YES PLEASE" whereas China went 'Power? well I have it but don't tell anyone about it. SSSSSHH" in their governance. This is also why the west views them as the larger threat cause, China learns, Russia is stupid and easy to counter if they didn't have 5k nukes in reserve.

And eh really.

Russia pissfarts around in Africa.
USA pissfarts around in the Middle East.
Israel for eg is a UN creation from the Palestine solution on their end, thus;
The entire west screws with the Middle East. Blood on all hands, not just the USA.

Also, Dragonfire and Tryzub > Helios.

Russia allied with plenty in Africa and the ME but certainly didn't do the heavy handed imperialism. They have been messing in hacking and bribing western politicians as payback but not with any real end game other than throwing a carcass in the water supply levels of interference.

Unless you believe Trump is their candidate in which case they may destroy the empire by accident. Realistically the US was already losing hegemony because they govern for the top of society and corporate interests who won't pay tax. They have spent too much money on things that don't return dollars into the public purse.

Most empires lose technological dominance and as manufacturing and resources slow to a trickle there isn't much to prop them up. Once people at the bottom lose faith in the system it starts to crumble fast.

China's lack of democracy means they can work on 100 year plans and don't need to sell it all to the public which is a massive strategic advantage.

Zionism is a European and 19th century ideology. They convinced the US that it was strategically aligned with their oil theft though. If we'd just paid the ME a fair amount of royalties a lot more people would have lived peaceful and wealthy lives.

 

[Yawkey way]

Russia allied with plenty in Africa and the ME but certainly didn't do the heavy handed imperialism. They have been messing in hacking and bribing western politicians as payback but not with any real end game other than throwing a carcass in the water supply levels of interference.

Unless you believe Trump is their candidate in which case they may destroy the empire by accident. Realistically the US was already losing hegemony because they govern for the top of society and corporate interests who won't pay tax. They have spent too much money on things that don't return dollars into the public purse.

Most empires lose technological dominance and as manufacturing and resources slow to a trickle there isn't much to prop them up. Once people at the bottom lose faith in the system it starts to crumble fast.

China's lack of democracy means they can work on 100 year plans and don't need to sell it all to the public which is a massive strategic advantage.

Zionism is a European and 19th century ideology. They convinced the US that it was strategically aligned with their oil theft though. If we'd just paid the ME a fair amount of royalties a lot more people would have lived peaceful and wealthy lives.

Gringo the US were isolationist until WW11. The League of Nations was responsible for the carve up of the Middle East.

At least blame those responsible, supporting democracy is hardly some grate evil. Are they perfect, hell no but generally they have lifted people out of poverty and being a massive positive imo. Look at what they did after WW11, no gloating like WW1 no setting the scene for WW11. The Marshall plan, aide to Japan etc hardly some great evil empire imo.

 

[True Believer]

Gringo the US were isolationist until WW11. The League of Nations was responsible for the carve up of the Middle East.

At least blame those responsible, supporting democracy is hardly some grate evil. Are they perfect, hell no but generally they have lifted people out of poverty and being a massive positive imo. Look at what they did after WW11, no gloating like WW1 no setting the scene for WW11. The Marshall plan, aide to Japan etc hardly some great evil empire imo.

Was it Churchill that said "democracy is the worst system of government, except for all of the other systems" ?

I may be accrediting that quote incorrectly........

 

[StFly]

Was it Churchill that said "democracy is the worst system of government, except for all of the other systems" ?

I may be accrediting that quote incorrectly........

Classic misquote of the man;

It has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time; but there is the broad feeling in our country that the people should rule, and that public opinion expressed by all constitutional means, should shape, guide, and control the actions of Ministers who are their servants and not their masters.

The accreditation was correct as it was Churchill, just you know, contents to suit a narrative.

 

[SG34]

I use my phone so much, I would upgrade instantly if that was my situation lol. I need my phone to work.

I just wanna say. I fixed my phone 100% by doing a full factory reset. It is beautiful. Peace. (And don't get sucked in to buy a new one)

 

[gringo2011]

I just wanna say. I fixed my phone 100% by doing a full factory reset. It is beautiful. Peace. (And don't get sucked in to buy a new one)

Hope you weren't making beef wellington at the time.

 

[StFly]

So just sitting here working and I hear what sounds like metal scraping on something. Odd, I walk to a window and see a pick up with tool tray and such at a corner so think "maybe?", think a bit and why not checking other windows just to be sure.

Turns out my wake up call of a pergola shingle that we put up back in the day that tore a bit and started banging cause mad wind gusts previously, decided it was then and there to tear right off and go about 10mm from the phone line as it dropped down the side of said pergola. Dirty big tear down the middle of it in two place as it ripped and tore itself off said roof.

When I say gust I mean gust.

So garden gloves and yanking later it's now next to a fence for my "this is for a skip later" pile, as plans have said pergola getting torn down so I can have a new beaut one that doesn't have a roof that me and the old man did on it and instead has a professional one. Kind of surprised it lasted as long as it has TBH.

 

[StFly]

So decided to try the KFC zinger kebab.

I mean, it's a kebab and a spiced piece of chicken with a sauce and some taboulli, what could go wrong?

If you answered they have NFI about ratios and totally overdid the sauces that almost everything was mush, you are correct. Nothing worse than dried pitabread with far too much sauce and what would have been a spiced chicken breast instead being a mush of greens some white meat and the overpowering of a garlic sauce.

1/10, avoid.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

So decided to try the KFC zinger kebab.

I mean, it's a kebab and a spiced piece of chicken with a sauce and some taboulli, what could go wrong?

If you answered they have NFI about ratios and totally overdid the sauces that almost everything was mush, you are correct. Nothing worse than dried pitabread with far too much sauce and what would have been a spiced chicken breast instead being a mush of greens some white meat and the overpowering of a garlic sauce.

1/10, avoid.

Their whipped potato with gravy is mush , but its good mush..( always been their best product ). There always seems to be something wrong with people dipping their chips into potato, but don't knock it.

 

[StFly]

Their whipped potato with gravy is mush , but its good mush..( always been their best product ). There always seems to be something wrong with people dipping their chips into potato, but don't knock it.

I was a fan of their zinger pie, thick crust pastry and that gravy was friggen delicious.
I was a fan of their tacos, as soft shell, supercharge sauce, hard shell, greens, chicken and salsa. And you got two of them.
This is a miss as the bread was far too large for that fillet and way way waaay too much sauce that it was unrecognisable.

I was a fan of their potato and gravy, but at least my locals gravy is packet shit, sometimes lumpy, sometimes too liquidy never just right and I can mush my own and make a gravy it's fine, I'm just lazy.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I was a fan of their zinger pie, thick crust pastry and that gravy was friggen delicious.
I was a fan of their tacos, as soft shell, supercharge sauce, hard shell, greens, chicken and salsa. And you got two of them.
This is a miss as the bread was far too large for that fillet and way way waaay too much sauce that it was unrecognisable.

I was a fan of their potato and gravy, but at least my locals gravy is packet shit, sometimes lumpy, sometimes too liquidy never just right and I can mush my own and make a gravy it's fine, I'm just lazy.

Coles came up with a pretty good imitation in a bigger container for a while. In the same area as the roast chooks, you could go and buy A cooked Chook and mashed potato with gravy, and some vege's for the air fryer , and it cost around $20. Enough to feed 3 or 4. But they stopped doing the mashed potato.

 

[gringo2011]

So decided to try the KFC zinger kebab.

I mean, it's a kebab and a spiced piece of chicken with a sauce and some taboulli, what could go wrong?

If you answered they have NFI about ratios and totally overdid the sauces that almost everything was mush, you are correct. Nothing worse than dried pitabread with far too much sauce and what would have been a spiced chicken breast instead being a mush of greens some white meat and the overpowering of a garlic sauce.

1/10, avoid.

You bought a kebab from KFC instead of a kebab shop. Pretty much got what you should have expected.

 

[StFly]

You bought a kebab from KFC instead of a kebab shop. Pretty much got what you should have expected.

Turkish kebab that is local - mint.
Greek souva that is local - mint.
There's some sri lankans doing fried chicken - mint.

Sometimes you just want quick nasty and cheap and you strike out, so a PSA adviso got noted. Last time I inform where you can see then, killjoy.

 

[gringo2011]

Turkish kebab that is local - mint.
Greek souva that is local - mint.
There's some sri lankans doing fried chicken - mint.

Sometimes you just want quick nasty and cheap and you strike out, so a PSA adviso got noted. Last time I inform where you can see then, killjoy.

I feel for your internal organs.

 

[StFly]

I feel for your internal organs.

If you must know, my checks are A-OK. Issues be known and this KFC was say my first pepsi/coke in what 3 weeks.

Cause as I said, sometimes you want cheap fast easy nonsense.

 

[Verdun]

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing normies to drink Great Northern.

Im the furthest thing from a beer snob, but that stuff is genuine dog saliva

It is shiiiiiite

*** get onto coopers pale ale, cascade stout, boags draught, albert rd lager


do not go near Great Northern tastes like pineapple