Analysis The Small Things

[Powerstufff]

The great thing about casual racism, casual sexism, casual misogyny, the various casual sexual orientated-phobias is that because it's been so ingrained in the older generations culture that:

No matter how hard you try to convince them, they will never understand what they're doing is wrong.

It's not a case of 'never understand' but it takes a lot of effort over a long time to convince people to look at the issues you've raised in a different way.
My father grew up in a generation where ocean liners were the jumbo jets of his early life. And so the metaphor he used with me when discussing this was that when the helmsman on an ocean liner was told to change course the ship would travel for miles before it began to respond. People write newspaper articles, hold protests, argue furiously in parliament and things slowly change until one day you look back and go 'Wow, how were we ever like that?'
Even for misogyny and homophobia to be casual is a HUGE leap from when I was a kid, when both were built into law. The vicious, debilitating racism around in Australia in the 60s is basically gone. I mean we can argue about that point until 2017 but it's largely petty cruelty now rather than a caste system where every skin shade away from English white substantially affected your life.
One problem with a lot of these prejudices is that many seem hard-wired into us, like smallpox we work and work to eradicate them but they still pop up. Could go on. Won't.

 

[Lagooner]

Oh its there too, but you're less likely to get excuses about being too old to change, like thats an option to be.

You have to be a big person to be able to admit that you've got it/done it wrong.

Most ain't so most won't.

 

[Andre]

Do you seriously think this is mostly an age issue?

Doesn't seem to be much of an issue with disparaging anyone older then Gen Y by many here. I guess heaping shit on those older is the ism that forever remains acceptable (until they hit it, at which point they'll be all over it).

 

[Portia]

I'm older than Gen Y

Come at me

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Do you seriously think this is mostly an age issue?

Go into bat for the old campaigners frodo!!!!!!

 

[PatientMental]

I'm older than Gen Y

Come at me

You don't fit into the old cis white male category. I think.

 

[Portia]

You don't fit into the old cis white male category. I think.

Correct, but I thought we were on ageism now.

 

[Dylan8]

I used to buy into a lot of MRA rhetoric in my teens. A lot of my friends think Chris Gayle isn't in the wrong at all.

It's not so much an age thing.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Nincompoop!

You dick.

 

[El Zorro]

Carn, can't a guy make an idiotic pun anymore? This is PC gone mad farkin.

Well, this is a very serious thread...

No worries, I didn't get that it was intended as an idiotic pun.

 

[Lagooner]

When do you know that you've "hit it" exactly?

I mean it's not time for me to rename it Gandalf just yet but I have found a couple of grey strands recently.

 

[Lockhart Road]

I must be the exception that proves the rule.

Seriously though and I have to mostly go by what I read some of the most vicious sexism around now emanates from young people.

'Young' is relative. I regard 60-year-olds as being young.

One of the recent posters in this particular debate not so long ago called me a 'gup' on a different thread. I still reckon it's a word he made up, and I don't think it was meant to be complimentary. But it's the obligation, and fun, of the young to constantly rejuvenate the language and I take note when one makes a try. We of the 'older generation' (singular) are too set in our ways, too comfortable with the language we grew old with, having invented our own new verbiage when we were young (less than 40).

See how agreeable I am today? Only three dozen more days to Family Day and the internal trial, even less time before the football threads start to blossom and take over. Then I'll really be sweet.

Gup? What's a bloody gup? Short for giddy-up = horse? Nag? What the hell, it's a Small Thing.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

'Young' is relative. I regard 60-year-olds as being young.

One of the recent posters in this particular debate not so long ago called me a 'gup' on a different thread. I still reckon it's a word he made up, and I don't think it was meant to be complimentary. But it's the obligation, and fun, of the young to constantly rejuvenate the language and I take note when one makes a try. We of the 'older generation' (singular) are too set in our ways, too comfortable with the language we grew old with, having invented our own new verbiage when we were young (less than 40).

See how agreeable I am today? Only three dozen more days to Family Day and the internal trial, even less time before the football threads start to blossom and take over. Then I'll really be sweet.

Gup? What's a bloody gup? Short for giddy-up = horse? Naw. What the hell, it's a Small Thing.

Sure he didn't call you a gilf?

 

[Lockhart Road]

Sure he didn't call you a gilf?

You made that up, youngster.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

You made that up, youngster.

I wish, grandpa I'd like to ****.

 

[Lagooner]

'Young' is relative. I regard 60-year-olds as being young.

One of the recent posters in this particular debate not so long ago called me a 'gup' on a different thread. I still reckon it's a word he made up, and I don't think it was meant to be complimentary. But it's the obligation, and fun, of the young to constantly rejuvenate the language and I take note when one makes a try. We of the 'older generation' (singular) are too set in our ways, too comfortable with the language we grew old with, having invented our own new verbiage when we were young (less than 40).

See how agreeable I am today? Only three dozen more days to Family Day and the internal trial, even less time before the football threads start to blossom and take over. Then I'll really be sweet.

Gup? What's a bloody gup? Short for giddy-up = horse? Nag? What the hell, it's a Small Thing.

Maybe they were trying to type gimp?

 

[PatientMental]

gup is just another word for idiot.

 

[Andre]

I'm older than Gen Y

Come at me

Can you knit me a blanket for the footy.

 

[Lockhart Road]

gup is just another word for idiot.

Say you, junior.

 

[wannabejack]

The great thing about casual racism, casual sexism, casual misogyny, the various casual sexual orientated-phobias is that because it's been so ingrained in the older generations culture that:

No matter how hard you try to convince them, they will never understand what they're doing is wrong.

Please don't generalise. As someone who has realised he is no longer young or middle aged, I am quite willing to be educated on what is right or wrong. We can change the way we once thought and regret what we once said or did.

 

[PAWt]

Plenty of people get more tolerant and open minded as they get older

 

[ozph1870]

campaignerwit is what i go to mostly for umpires.

 

[_VXV]

God it's horrible isn't it. I'd rather someone call me a campaigner than champ.

You get called Champ by a casual acquaintance who can't be bothered to remember your name.
**** that person.

 

[Jonts]

In the army calling someone a champ is a big insult

 

[Andre]

God it's horrible isn't it. I'd rather someone call me a campaigner than champ.

Does anyone call someone champ, whose over 10, without being at least half condescending? Unless they've just won a boxing/martial arts competition of some kind anyway.