The "take it outside" thread

[Grape Bear]

I'm currently reading a lot of books about the ocean, and I'm on a bit of a tear at how seriously we humans are ****ing things up. The situation is so dire that knowing what I know makes it hard not to completely go off eating fish all together. It's scary stuff.

We're lucky that our stocks in Australia are currently still abundant, but it doesn't mean that recreational fishermen can abdicate responsibility just because they're pulling 20 fish as opposed to 240 tonne that commercial fishers are bringing up, just because quotas say they can.

To be truthful, it's way past time that fisheries increased protected marine sanctuaries all over the world - when there's still something to protect. But they're not going to do that because it's not "absolute science" that fisheries are on the verge of collapse. Just ask Tony Abbott.

It's the whole "I'm just one person, what I do doesn't matter - they're the ones doing wrong" principle that got the world into this mess in the first place.

 

[PurpleGreenRed]

No species has ever been decimated by people fishing with fishing rods.

It's netting that decimates fish stocks. A single trawler would catch more fish in one trip than all the recreational fisherman combined would take in a year.

That's not the point I'm arguing. Not really. I understand commercial fishing hammers the stock...and will continue to do so...and that sporting fishermen have less of an impact but if there are 400 fisherman who each take that amount of fish on a weekly basis then the drop in the Ocean becomes a splash.

I'm not judging you but I don't get where the sport is if you're pulling in shedloads of the same species.

 

[ydraw]

That's good. Then you would also be aware of boat limits. You seem to have missed that part out.

There are no boat limits on most species. Certainly not Bight Redfish. Only certain less common species (e.g. Dhufish, Western Blue Groper) have boat limits.

 

[Keys]

And some of the most restrictive bag limits in the world given our fish stocks are so strong.

What Bushie doesn't seem to understand is that Red Snapper/Bight Redfish are abundant as ****, which is why you are allowed to catch a lot more of them than you are snapper or jewies.

Different species have different bag limits. It's not that complicated.

When I was young we used to go to geraldton every Christmas holidays. Would leave on Boxing Day and stay there for about 4 weeks

Spent a lot of time fishing for tailor off the reef at flat rocks and on a good day you could catch enough to feed a moderately sized army. On a good night you could walk out on the reef at low tide and catch crayfish in the rock pools almost as easily as picking up seashells along a beach

It's been a long time since I've been back there but I have no doubt that it there are nowhere near the same numbers as I thought was normal

Why? Because back then families like ours were too stupid to understand the notion that what we were doing was unsustainable.

True there were days when we would be the only ones there and no doubt many more days when nobody was there. Overtime though the numbers if people increased and the pressure on fish stocks grew resulting in a drastic drop in numbers

That has been replicated up and down the coast and if proper care isn't taken the same will happen on the south coast unless people there make the realisation now not to take top many unlike what people like my family did elsewhere

It's pretty embarrassing now to think what we did was reasonable when it quite clearly wasn't

 

[ydraw]

I'm not judging you but I don't get where the sport is if you're pulling in shedloads of the same species.

Bottom fishing for Red Snapper with 100lb braided line in 60m of water isn't really sportfishing. We catch these fish because we like to eat them. We threw back over 25 fish on that day, because they were less tasty species. We generally don't even keep the kinda sorta ok fish (like Queen Snapper or Samson Fish), because the Reds are so abundant we don't need to.


Obviously it's still good fun, but it's not really a "sport". Sportfishing is a completely different beast, where you are basically intentionally making it hard for yourself for the challenge of it.

 

[Freofalcon]

When I was young we used to go to geraldton every Christmas holidays. Would leave on Boxing Day and stay there for about 4 weeks

Spent a lot of time fishing for tailor off the reef at flat rocks and on a good day you could catch enough to feed a moderately sized army. On a good night you could walk out on the reef at low tide and catch crayfish in the rock pools almost as easily as picking up seashells along a beach

It's been a long time since I've been back there but I have no doubt that it there are nowhere near the same numbers as I thought was normal

Why? Because back then families like ours were too stupid to understand the notion that what we were doing was unsustainable.

True there were days when we would be the only ones there and no doubt many more days when nobody was there. Overtime though the numbers if people increased and the pressure on fish stocks grew resulting in a drastic drop in numbers

That has been replicated up and down the coast and if proper care isn't taken the same will happen on the south coast unless people there make the realisation now not to take top many unlike what people like my family did elsewhere

It's pretty embarrassing now to think what we did was reasonable when it quite clearly wasn't

My father in law still has this mentality.

He is from an age where you could catch whatever and as much as you wanted.

Everything he catches " Goes in the bucket "

I keep throwing it all back trying to educate him on size limits etc. He looks at me like I've got two heads.

 

[apparentlydead]

Bottom fishing for Red Snapper with 100lb braided line in 60m of water isn't really sportfishing. We catch these fish because we like to eat them. We threw back over 25 fish on that day, because they were less tasty species. We generally don't even keep the kinda sorta ok fish (like Queen Snapper or Samson Fish), because the Reds are so abundant we don't need to.


Obviously it's still good fun, but it's not really a "sport". Sportfishing is a completely different beast, where you are basically intentionally making it hard for yourself for the challenge of it.

Most of your by catch died.

Well done.

 

[apparentlydead]

idiot.

 

[apparentlydead]

Western Australia would have to have one of the best fish management systems in the world.

It may help if you leave the continent from time to time.

keep drinking the cool aid.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

There are no boat limits on most species. Certainly not Bight Redfish. Only certain less common species (e.g. Dhufish, Western Blue Groper) have boat limits.

I'm no expert, but a quick read of some of the info you posted says different.

Perhaps it might just be easier to stop acting like you know what you're talking about.

 

[apparentlydead]

I'm no expert, but a quick read of some of the info you posted says different.

Perhaps it might just be easier to stop acting like you know what you're talking about.

They're HIS fish goddammit!!

 

[_007_]

Alright I'm just gonna say it since this is the thread for it.

You lot have jumped the shark with your ongoing tiff with Pokers.

No one else would be hounded this hard over a picture of some fish. You are clearly just looking to fight whenever he speaks and it is tiresome.

Pokers you are still a muppet though.

 

[Stronzo]

???

 

[Reginald Perrin]

Alright I'm just gonna say it since this is the thread for it.

You lot have jumped the shark with your ongoing tiff with Pokers.

No one else would be hounded this hard over a picture of some fish. You are clearly just looking to fight whenever he speaks and it is tiresome.

Pokers you are still a muppet though.

Threatening people with a brick is the kind of thing that has consequences. Who would have guessed?

 

[Keys]

Too many question marks. You're over the limit and need to send some back

 

[Paracleet]

No one else would be hounded this hard over a picture of some fish.

Nah he would. Potential bricking in the offing or not..

 

[Stronzo]

Too many question marks. You're over the limit and need to send some back

I bought the extra question mark package.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

???

Are you part of the "Righteo compromise" where we get to give you a kicking without consequence?

 

[ydraw]

I'm no expert, but a quick read of some of the info you posted says different.

Perhaps it might just be easier to stop acting like you know what you're talking about.

You're right. You are no expert. But it's ok, I am.

 

[Keys]

I bought the extra question mark package.

Best deal in town

 

[Stronzo]

Are you part of the "Righteo compromise" where we get to give you a kicking without consequence?

The question you should ask yourself is "do I feel lucky?"

 

[Reginald Perrin]

You're right. You are no expert. But it's ok, I am.

It's interesting that you're publicly handing out incorrect information then. Not very professional of you.

 

[youmewe]

When I was young, my family bought our fish at the local fish shop/market.

All these years later we still do.

True story.

Except for Timmy the goldfish. We got him from the local pet shop and he lived with our family for years and years. He was one tough fish, seemed to change in size and colour every few months but kept on keeping on.

 

[PurpleGreenRed]

Alright I'm just gonna say it since this is the thread for it.

You lot have jumped the shark with your ongoing tiff with Pokers.

No one else would be hounded this hard over a picture of some fish. You are clearly just looking to fight whenever he speaks and it is tiresome.

Pokers you are still a muppet though.

Not sure you understand "Jump the shark." Nonetheless if you think I was picking a fight for the sake of winding ydraw up...you're wrong..and I haven't name called.

I mentioned in an earlier post that I wasn't judging him. Why you should come out with all that then call him a muppet I don't know.

I think you've earned a place beside him, Waldorf ( or are you Statler?).

 

[Reginald Perrin]

The question you should ask yourself is "do I feel lucky?"

Not any more. I got lucky last night and I think that's my monthly allocation gone.

I should have purchased the extra lucky add on bundle.