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Amen, Brother!
Saw that a while ago.... so rinsed out now though, especially in drum & bass. In fact, it basically spawned the entire genre of Jungle/Drum & Bass.
It's still used regularly.... instantly recognizable.... when you chop it up and speed/pitch it up, it just has "jungle" written all over it.
I've used the Amen a couple of times myself.... once years ago pitched and slowed down and chopped up for a strange atmospheric future post-war scene in a project i worked on, and once recently pitched/sped/chopped up and blended in behind the rest of the drums in a drum & bass tune.
It's a strange situation with the Amen and copyright laws.... if somebody were to start sueing over it's use, they'd be sueing nearly everybody who has ever released electronic music..... nearly everybody has had a stab at the Amen at some point in their careers.... to the point where it's really become just another instrument to use. Iin fact, within jungle, it's almost become a guide as to how creative a producer you are.... I constantly see jungle reviews saying things like "This tune has some fantastic amen-work in it...." etc. Anybody these days within jungle who uses the Amen and doesn't do something creative with it to make it "their own" is often labelled boring.... some people are sick of hearing the Amen altogether.... I'm a bit like that, although I still hear the odd tune here and there that manages to keep it sounding fresh... but they're becoming few and far between these days.
There are actually a number of "standard" drum breaks often used in breakbeat tunes these days.... (mainly within drum & bass) ....although anything goes at the end of the day and people are always digging for new things.... i've heard countless drum fills from metal tunes sampled and chopped/pitched around and used in drum & bass tunes..... it all comes down to how creatively you use the samples.... if you just sample it and throw it in your tunes, that's pretty lame..... but processing/pitching/rearranging can create something entirely new and unrecognizable from the original.... and THAT is the creative art of sampling. Too many people who don't know anything about it think that "sampling" involves nothing more than taking a few secs from one song and simply putting it in yours untouched when there is so much more to it than that these days.....but that is thanks to sampling "geniuses" like Puff Diddy or whatever his name is etc.... "Hi, I'm Puff Diddy and my record label has heaps of money so we'll give YOU heaps of money if we can steal your song and talk crap over it and call it ours, because then that will make US heaps of money." That's not sampling - that's marketing.
Good sampling is often the stuff you can't recognize. (and it also saves small electronic labels having to pay money to get the sample "cleared".... if it's unrecognizable from the original, then there's no worrying about getting caught! )
Although I guess the strange thing about the Amen more so than any other sample is that no matter how much you rearrange or screw with it, it is ALWAYS instantly recognizable as the Amen.
Another interesting little fact about the Amen is that the drummer who played on the original Winstons recording back in the 60's was actually a fill-in drummer for the day!
Saw that a while ago.... so rinsed out now though, especially in drum & bass. In fact, it basically spawned the entire genre of Jungle/Drum & Bass.
It's still used regularly.... instantly recognizable.... when you chop it up and speed/pitch it up, it just has "jungle" written all over it.
I've used the Amen a couple of times myself.... once years ago pitched and slowed down and chopped up for a strange atmospheric future post-war scene in a project i worked on, and once recently pitched/sped/chopped up and blended in behind the rest of the drums in a drum & bass tune.
It's a strange situation with the Amen and copyright laws.... if somebody were to start sueing over it's use, they'd be sueing nearly everybody who has ever released electronic music..... nearly everybody has had a stab at the Amen at some point in their careers.... to the point where it's really become just another instrument to use. Iin fact, within jungle, it's almost become a guide as to how creative a producer you are.... I constantly see jungle reviews saying things like "This tune has some fantastic amen-work in it...." etc. Anybody these days within jungle who uses the Amen and doesn't do something creative with it to make it "their own" is often labelled boring.... some people are sick of hearing the Amen altogether.... I'm a bit like that, although I still hear the odd tune here and there that manages to keep it sounding fresh... but they're becoming few and far between these days.
There are actually a number of "standard" drum breaks often used in breakbeat tunes these days.... (mainly within drum & bass) ....although anything goes at the end of the day and people are always digging for new things.... i've heard countless drum fills from metal tunes sampled and chopped/pitched around and used in drum & bass tunes..... it all comes down to how creatively you use the samples.... if you just sample it and throw it in your tunes, that's pretty lame..... but processing/pitching/rearranging can create something entirely new and unrecognizable from the original.... and THAT is the creative art of sampling. Too many people who don't know anything about it think that "sampling" involves nothing more than taking a few secs from one song and simply putting it in yours untouched when there is so much more to it than that these days.....but that is thanks to sampling "geniuses" like Puff Diddy or whatever his name is etc.... "Hi, I'm Puff Diddy and my record label has heaps of money so we'll give YOU heaps of money if we can steal your song and talk crap over it and call it ours, because then that will make US heaps of money." That's not sampling - that's marketing.
Good sampling is often the stuff you can't recognize. (and it also saves small electronic labels having to pay money to get the sample "cleared".... if it's unrecognizable from the original, then there's no worrying about getting caught!
)Although I guess the strange thing about the Amen more so than any other sample is that no matter how much you rearrange or screw with it, it is ALWAYS instantly recognizable as the Amen.
Another interesting little fact about the Amen is that the drummer who played on the original Winstons recording back in the 60's was actually a fill-in drummer for the day!
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