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macca69 said:
What makes you think Thorp will slide?
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Just a feeling i have, He had a great champs, but he didnt play that well at all in the VFL, Riewoldt outplayed him in every aspect, coming from 2nd Div, i just think he might slip to around 10-16. I think the player to be reached for is N.Brown or McKenzie, Grigg, Hurley to go top 15 surprisingly i think.

My top 10

Gibbs
Hansen
Gumbleton
Selwood
Sellar
Luenburger
Jetta
Hislop
Grigg
Brown




thats not what i think the draft top 10 should go, but what i think it may go, i think Grigg's is value alot higher than on BF.

Players to slide: Riewoldt, Thorp, Proud
Players to finish alot higher (Top 20): Grigg, N.Brown, Adam's, Hurley
 
Pykie said:
Just a feeling i have, He had a great champs, but he didnt play that well at all in the VFL, Riewoldt outplayed him in every aspect, coming from 2nd Div, i just think he might slip to around 10-16. I think the player to be reached for is N.Brown or McKenzie, Grigg, Hurley to go top 15 surprisingly i think.

My top 10

Gibbs
Hansen
Gumbleton
Selwood
Sellar
Luenburger
Jetta
Hislop
Grigg
Brown




thats not what i think the draft top 10 should go, but what i think it may go, i think Grigg's is value alot higher than on BF.

Players to slide: Riewoldt, Thorp, Proud
Players to finish alot higher (Top 20): Grigg, N.Brown, Adam's, Hurley
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Agree on Riewoldt, could slide. Can't see Thorp sliding and Proud may a little.

No way Grigg will go top 10, was overlooked completely last year, ditto Adams. Struggle for top 20.

Agree on N. Brown, he'd be pushing top 10.

Hurley is hard to pick, not all that unlikely that one club would be impressed enough to take him early, but could just as easily slide.
 
Pykie said:
Just a feeling i have, He had a great champs, but he didnt play that well at all in the VFL, Riewoldt outplayed him in every aspect, coming from 2nd Div, i just think he might slip to around 10-16. I think the player to be reached for is N.Brown or McKenzie, Grigg, Hurley to go top 15 surprisingly i think.

My top 10

Gibbs
Hansen
Gumbleton
Selwood
Sellar
Luenburger
Jetta
Hislop
Grigg
Brown




thats not what i think the draft top 10 should go, but what i think it may go, i think Grigg's is value alot higher than on BF.

Players to slide: Riewoldt, Thorp, Proud
Players to finish alot higher (Top 20): Grigg, N.Brown, Adam's, Hurley
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Cant see Hurley for mine, just doesnt have the hurt factor that clubs look for & his kicking is average at best.

Only takes 1 club to fall in love with a player though and call his name out draft day and things can change dramatically.
 

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Scham said:
1. Gibbs
2. Hansen
3. Luenberger
4. Gumbleton
5. Thorp
6. Sellar
7. Selwood
8. Armitage
9. Benjamin
10. Riewoldt
11. Proud
12. McKenzie
13. Jetta
14. Collard
15. Petterd
16. Connors
17. Schmidt
18. O'Brien
19. Reid
20. Urquhart
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I think this list is closest to the mark.
 
What the Armitage is either 8 or 9th or 19th?? That is a pretty big gap. I rate him highly but previously he was in the early 20's. I also want him to slide to bris's 2nd pick so I hope the people predicting him to be 19th or so are closer to the money so there is more chance of him sliding:p .

But why so much deviation and he is consistantly late 10s or late teens...
 
LukeHodge15 said:
Cant see Hurley for mine, just doesnt have the hurt factor that clubs look for & his kicking is average at best.

Only takes 1 club to fall in love with a player though and call his name out draft day and things can change dramatically.
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Yep, thought id throw some stuff up in the air, other than the usual boring stuff.

Adams is a very interesting one, AA midfielder, Vic Metro Captain and MVP ahead of Hawkins. And the Herald Sun seemed to suggest hed be a top 10 pick, i cant seem that, but i can see him going top 20, especially to one of the priority picks.

Grigg had an exceptional season, regardless of his accountability, he has something a bit special when it comes to finding the ball, and he is that size that all clubs are after these days when recruiting midfielders, that "Embley" build.

I dont think these two deserve to be top 10, or top 20 really, but i can see why clubs would recruit them earlier, and they have relatively high profiles out of all the draftee's in the media. All that doesnt really matter, look at Pendlebury last year.

Hurley was mentioned as a "what club needs" for the Saints i think, and is a very underated player, i can see him going around the 15 mark, and Proud slipping to the 20's.

Sellar is very underage, and i cant see him going after Thorp really. Thorp is a huge prospect but i really have a gut feeling, someone like the Dogs are going to get him at 10.
 
Pykie said:
Yep, thought id throw some stuff up in the air, other than the usual boring stuff.

Adams is a very interesting one, AA midfielder, Vic Metro Captain and MVP ahead of Hawkins. And the Herald Sun seemed to suggest hed be a top 10 pick, i cant seem that, but i can see him going top 20, especially to one of the priority picks.

Grigg had an exceptional season, regardless of his accountability, he has something a bit special when it comes to finding the ball, and he is that size that all clubs are after these days when recruiting midfielders, that "Embley" build.

I dont think these two deserve to be top 10, or top 20 really, but i can see why clubs would recruit them earlier, and they have relatively high profiles out of all the draftee's in the media. All that doesnt really matter, look at Pendlebury last year.

Hurley was mentioned as a "what club needs" for the Saints i think, and is a very underated player, i can see him going around the 15 mark, and Proud slipping to the 20's.

Sellar is very underage, and i cant see him going after Thorp really. Thorp is a huge prospect but i really have a gut feeling, someone like the Dogs are going to get him at 10.
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Good call.

Great to actually discuss some different players other than the players that the sheep all follow. :D

Adams an interesting case.

Has the explosive pace to break from the contested situation.
Is hard as nails.
Leadership qualitys.
Above average kick.- Thats the part i have queries with, his kicking i have queries on.
Wins contested footy.

Lots to like about Adams. Can see him going no later than 30. Its hard to get a line on where he will get taken. Clubs needs and all that. Personally i rate him highly........real gem.
 
Pykie said:
Yep, thought id throw some stuff up in the air, other than the usual boring stuff.

Adams is a very interesting one, AA midfielder, Vic Metro Captain and MVP ahead of Hawkins. And the Herald Sun seemed to suggest hed be a top 10 pick, i cant seem that, but i can see him going top 20, especially to one of the priority picks.

Grigg had an exceptional season, regardless of his accountability, he has something a bit special when it comes to finding the ball, and he is that size that all clubs are after these days when recruiting midfielders, that "Embley" build.

I dont think these two deserve to be top 10, or top 20 really, but i can see why clubs would recruit them earlier, and they have relatively high profiles out of all the draftee's in the media. All that doesnt really matter, look at Pendlebury last year.

Hurley was mentioned as a "what club needs" for the Saints i think, and is a very underated player, i can see him going around the 15 mark, and Proud slipping to the 20's.

Sellar is very underage, and i cant see him going after Thorp really. Thorp is a huge prospect but i really have a gut feeling, someone like the Dogs are going to get him at 10.
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yep always enjoy reading someone's opinion who's opinion differs from the BF norm.
 
1. Bryce Gibbs
2. Lachlan Hansen
3. Scott Gumbleton
4.Matthew Leuenberger
5. James Sellar
6. Mitch Thorp
7. Joel Selwood
8. David Armitage
9. Jack Riewoldt
10. Leroy Jetta
11. Eric Mckenzie
12. Clinton Benjamin
13. Albert Proud
14. Tom Hislop
15. Brock O'Brien
16. Daniel Connors
17. Ricky Petterd
18. Jarryd Allen (star)
19. Clayton Collard
20. Bachar Houli
 

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1 Gibbs
2 Hansen
3 Gumbleton
4 Thorp
5 Sellar
6 Leungberger
7 Jetta
8 Selwood
9 Proud
10 Riewoldt
11 McKenzie
12 Ried
13 Benjamin
14 Houli
15 Allen
16 Brown M
17 Brown N
18 Armitage
19 O'Brien
20 Collard

A couple of thoughts:

Sellar wont slide. If Richmond has a chance of taking Sellar, they will take him, as he plugs many holes (KPP, ruck). Added to the fact that he is a under-aged 195cm player, I can't see him slipping out of the top 10.

I see Leuengberger and Jetta going, Berger because he is touted as the best ruckmen for a long time with loads of talent and lots of pace (a recruiting manager's wet dream) and Jetta a genuine HFF who has pace, which may appeal to clubs like Geelong and Hawthorn who are a little light on pace. However, IMO Berger wont go top 3, that looks set to be Gibbs, Hansen then Gumbleton in that order.

I haven't put alot of thought into the picks 9-20, but IMO Gibbs, Hansen, Gumby, Thorp, Sellar, Selwood and Proud are morals for the top ten.

This is dependant on the trades, but IMO not many top ten draft picks will be traded. If so, the player better be good. Polak for pick 8 is just not acceptable.
 
1. Gibbs
2. Gumbleton
3. Hansen
4. Selwood
5. Leuenberger
6. Thorpe
7. Sellar
8. Jetta
9. Proud
10. Hislop
11. Riewoldt
12. N.Brown
13. Collard
14. Petterd
15. Armitage
16. Mckenzie
17. Hurley
18. Urquhart
19. Houli
20. Grigg
 
rota69 said:
No Riewoldt and Sellar at 15 :eek:
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Queries over Sellar's kicking action and what position he play in the AFL. If Port doesnt take Sellar at 5 he will slip all the way to Adelaide at 14.

Riewoldt is over rated on this board. Lazy, weak and soft player that if he had a different surname would not be even mentioned.

Hurley will be lucky to be drafted in the top 90. His kicking is not up to AFL standard. Best possible chance is as a Port or Adelaide rookie.

Grigg can be taken as a rookie due to his age so he will probably be overlooked by clubs and taken then. Hasnt improved much from 2005, still doing the selfish lazy soft things and this will go against him. 20m time at draft camp might be his saving grace.

Allen very top age, lacks a yard, awkward mover and suspect kicking action will struggle to be taken inside the top 50. Likely case as a rookie.

Big bolter is Krakouer lot of clubs are eyeing him off with a first round pick due to his pace and his ability to do the magical things.
 
Artful_Dodger said:
Queries over Sellar's kicking action and what position he play in the AFL. If Port doesnt take Sellar at 5 he will slip all the way to Adelaide at 14.

Riewoldt is over rated on this board. Lazy, weak and soft player that if he had a different surname would not be even mentioned.

Hurley will be lucky to be drafted in the top 90. His kicking is not up to AFL standard. Best possible chance is as a Port or Adelaide rookie.

Grigg can be taken as a rookie due to his age so he will probably be overlooked by clubs and taken then. Hasnt improved much from 2005, still doing the selfish lazy soft things and this will go against him. 20m time at draft camp might be his saving grace.

Allen very top age, lacks a yard, awkward mover and suspect kicking action will struggle to be taken inside the top 50. Likely case as a rookie.

Big bolter is Krakouer lot of clubs are eyeing him off with a first round pick due to his pace and his ability to do the magical things.
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If that comes to fruition, then theres some of the biggest bargains in recent years, all in the same draft.

Getting the most possies in the TAC, and averaging 25+ touches at the champs, is definately an improvement for Grigg.

"Very top age" think about what your saying, if he is draftable, then he is like every other guy for the last 2 decades. 6 months older than another guy means bugger all, all kids develop at different ages. He has talent, he isnt there because of a physical dominance.]

Hurley - they said the same about Swallow. I dont know what "AFL" level really means. Because only really the top 10% of the AFL can hit forwards lace out, the rest are about the same, bar the bottom 10% and players like Brady Rawlings have shown they are still extremely valuable at the top level.

If they pick Krakeour early purely because of his physical results at the camp, then its a severe reach imo, the natural "footballing" talent in this draft is alot higher than normal, and for that reason, Krakeour wont go in the first round.
 
Why do so many people think St Kilda will get Riewoldt? With Riewoldt (senior), Gehrig, Koschitzke, Watts and Brooks we don't need any tall forwards but we have absolutely no midfield depth. After the starting players Hayes, Ball, Harvey, Dal Santo, Baker and Goddard we have no decent depth to rotate through the midfield, and midfield depth is what won West Coast a premiership.

Saints will consider Selwood, Proud and maybe Armitage/Hislop/Jetta and that's it.

Kangas wont take Leuenberger either. They've got Hale, McIntosh and Moran who will all be capable AFL ruckmen.

And surely Richmond will take a tall? The only KPPs they have that will be around in a few years are Schulz, Hughes...and...maybe Thursfield/Pattison/Jackson, but none of them are capable of holding down a key role in a premiership team. They will jump on Sellar or Thorp if they slip, but otherwise they'd go for Riewoldt wouldn't they? TW loves franchise players as well so he'd be delighted with all the publicity a Riewoldt would bring.
 
how come no one has put lachlan george in there top 20 he is from north ballarat rebels and got 3rd or 2nd in the TAC cup best and fairest
 

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1 - Gibbs
2 - Hansen
3 - Gumbleton
4 - Thorpe
5 - Leunberger
6 - Reiwoldt
7 - Selwood
8 - Sellar
9 - Proud
10 - Jetta
11 - Collard
12 - Allen
13 - Benjamin
14 - Hislop
15 - M Brown
16 - N Brown
17 - Renouf
18 - Mourish
19 - Armitage
20 - Reid
 
Magpie_Babe said:
What can anyone tell me bout the Urquhart? I've never heard of him.
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A tallish (186cm 78kg)midfielder/centreman type from Qld who had a good 18's championship last year but was too young to be drafted. Had a very good championship again this year.
 
inthesong said:
1 - Gibbs
2 - Hansen
3 - Gumbleton
4 - Thorpe
5 - Leunberger
6 - Reiwoldt
7 - Selwood
8 - Sellar
9 - Proud
10 - Jetta
11 - Collard
12 - Allen
13 - Benjamin
14 - Hislop
15 - M Brown
16 - N Brown
17 - Renouf
18 - Mourish
19 - Armitage
20 - Reid
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This one seems to be the best IMO but id change Riewoldt to no.10 or 11

And wouldnt discount Adams, Urquhart or Houli breaking into top 20
 
whats the go with ben reid he is up n down on every list where do we think he will go one list said 10 one said 20 n theres all other in the middle trying to figure out where he will go? is he gonna be as good as the rest?
 
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