thomas to blame

[della]

Forget all the crap about injuries etc this man thomas is the reason you guys sit where you are, all this notion about him putting the club 1st and he only having there interest at heart is a joke, look at what he did to Blighty, a man with flags under his belt and a great record to boot and Thomas undermines him for his own personal needs.

I know it has been spoken about b4 but how the hell did u get rid of blighty, talk about inujuries well at the time Blighty was down to 24 players to choose from for most of his 1st year, he is the reason so many players came to the club but mr Cornflakes himself felt it was best to move him on, great chioce indeed and u now go with Mr Personality Ross lyon, geez this bloke has nothing going for him at all and it shows how u guys play.

Thomas u have done it again, and anyone who thinks otherwise is a tool, he has set this club back more then any other person in 50yrs and u guys will have to suffer when really u would of had 2 flags by now under blighty no question at all

 

[Nezzar]

Forget all the crap about injuries etc this man thomas is the reason you guys sit where you are, all this notion about him putting the club 1st and he only having there interest at heart is a joke, look at what he did to Blighty, a man with flags under his belt and a great record to boot and Thomas undermines him for his own personal needs.

I know it has been spoken about b4 but how the hell did u get rid of blighty, talk about inujuries well at the time Blighty was down to 24 players to choose from for most of his 1st year, he is the reason so many players came to the club but mr Cornflakes himself felt it was best to move him on, great chioce indeed and u now go with Mr Personality Ross lyon, geez this bloke has nothing going for him at all and it shows how u guys play.

Thomas u have done it again, and anyone who thinks otherwise is a tool, he has set this club back more then any other person in 50yrs and u guys will have to suffer when really u would of had 2 flags by now under blighty no question at all

some true argumentative wit you have there... how can i disagree? that would make me a tool

 

[Big Ted]

I have stood by my comments from day 1...

I am glad that Grant Thomas is no longer our coach.

 

[saintsownthedome]

Forget all the crap about injuries etc this man thomas is the reason you guys sit where you are, all this notion about him putting the club 1st and he only having there interest at heart is a joke, look at what he did to Blighty, a man with flags under his belt and a great record to boot and Thomas undermines him for his own personal needs.

I know it has been spoken about b4 but how the hell did u get rid of blighty, talk about inujuries well at the time Blighty was down to 24 players to choose from for most of his 1st year, he is the reason so many players came to the club but mr Cornflakes himself felt it was best to move him on, great chioce indeed and u now go with Mr Personality Ross lyon, geez this bloke has nothing going for him at all and it shows how u guys play.

Thomas u have done it again, and anyone who thinks otherwise is a tool, he has set this club back more then any other person in 50yrs and u guys will have to suffer when really u would of had 2 flags by now under blighty no question at all

Just explain to me how Grant Thomas is responsible for Ross Lyon being appointed coach ?

Or are you just feeling the need to rant ?

Boring post.

 

[BrianSpeaking]

Just explain to me how Grant Thomas is responsible for Ross Lyon being appointed coach ?

Or are you just feeling the need to rant ?

Boring post.

It gets down to the players, pure and simple, or simpletons after this weekends efforts. Players on the chopping block at the end of the year are Thompson, Milne, Fiora, R Clarke, Gehrig, Harvey(retire), Brooks, Ferguson(why was he redrafted???), Gardiner, Hamill with Kosi as trade bait. Also, JB pulled the wrong string drafting Howard instead of Petterd...what a stupid choice. They hope Howard will be the next Daniel Kerr, he cant find the ball and when he does he turns it over...at Scorpions level, let alone AFL.
Time to rebuild.

 

[della]

Not feeling the need to rant at all, like both our clubs w havent seen the holy grail for so long i just seethe past 4-5 yrs as the biggest waste of time ever by youre club and i feel Thomas is the no1 reason the club is wheres its at, u may disagree thats fine but that bloke put his selfish needs ahead of the club from day 1 and is the reason the club is where its at now, plain and simple, now Butters is the next person who needs to go!

 

[DarkRider]

It gets down to the players, pure and simple, or simpletons after this weekends efforts. Players on the chopping block at the end of the year are Thompson, Milne, Fiora, R Clarke, Gehrig, Harvey(retire), Brooks, Ferguson(why was he redrafted???), Gardiner, Hamill with Kosi as trade bait. Also, JB pulled the wrong string drafting Howard instead of Petterd...what a stupid choice. They hope Howard will be the next Daniel Kerr, he cant find the ball and when he does he turns it over...at Scorpions level, let alone AFL.
Time to rebuild.

So yesterday's "heros" are today's delistings ?
Typical effort from St Kilda, as they have a long history of pi$$ing their opportunities against the wall.
Giving them all those draft picks was like feeding strawberries to pigs really.

 

[panthers]

So yesterday's "heros" are today's delistings ?
Typical effort from St Kilda, as they have a long history of pi$$ing their opportunities against the wall.
Giving them all those draft picks was like feeding strawberries to pigs really.

Pretty brave coming from someone who is tooooo gutless to put the team they follow up

 

[bubblegoose]

Forget all the crap about injuries etc this man thomas is the reason you guys sit where you are, all this notion about him putting the club 1st and he only having there interest at heart is a joke, look at what he did to Blighty, a man with flags under his belt and a great record to boot and Thomas undermines him for his own personal needs.

I know it has been spoken about b4 but how the hell did u get rid of blighty, talk about inujuries well at the time Blighty was down to 24 players to choose from for most of his 1st year, he is the reason so many players came to the club but mr Cornflakes himself felt it was best to move him on, great chioce indeed and u now go with Mr Personality Ross lyon, geez this bloke has nothing going for him at all and it shows how u guys play.

Thomas u have done it again, and anyone who thinks otherwise is a tool, he has set this club back more then any other person in 50yrs and u guys will have to suffer when really u would of had 2 flags by now under blighty no question at all

Yeah this seems to be the simplistic version the media have been pushing down the gullible public's throat for a while. When you climb into the actual detail, and hear what's going on behind the scenes it is a lot more complicated than can be summed up accurately in a few paragraphs.

When Blight was employed by the St.Kilda FC, he was more concerned about bringing down his golf handicap than coaching the Saints.

 

[saintsownthedome]

Yeah this seems to be the simplistic version the media have been pushing down the gullible public's throat for a while. When you climb into the actual detail, and hear what's going on behind the scenes it is a lot more complicated than can be summed up accurately in a few paragraphs.

When Blight was employed by the St.Kilda FC, he was more concerned about bringing down his golf handicap than coaching the Saints.

Only at the club four days a week, and spent a full week in Queensland during the season, asking his assistants to run the coaching side of things.

Problem was that Rod Butters made him an offer ($1M) too good to refuse, and it didnt take long for the great man to realise he didnt have it in him.

Blight at his top would have been awesome - just wasnt meant to be.

 

[bluejay]

Pretty brave coming from someone who is tooooo gutless to put the team they follow up

He's an ex-fitzroy supporter who started following the roos after fitzroy merged with brisbane.
You just need to look at his old threads from 2003.

 

[skelly12]

Grant thomas is not to blame whatsoever, if anyone needed to be sacked it is your pathetic fitness and medicos, the only problem st kilda has is getting your players on the park. Furthermore why is Rod Butterss being forgotten here, he is the source of your problems, why does he feel the need to bring the club into disrepute by constantly appearing before the media slagging thomas, making allegations that thomas has told your players to leave. All that does is generate suspicion about players futures at the club, placing an unwanted pressure to their lives, detracting them from the task at hand, winning football games. Rod needs to be the bigger man and ignore thomas's sledging and get on with his job, for all this public catfight is doing is placing undeserving pressure on the new boy Ross Lyon.
so Rod put a sock in it, keep your fight behind closed doors, let Ross get on with his job and who knows you might even have a chance of keeping Saint Nick

 

[della]

i actually follow Geelong so i know how u guys feel and wanted u to win a flag if we couldn't as both teams have suffered so long, i love my club and i love the game and feel u guys just could of done more if things were diff, just feel Thomas was the worst thing that has happ ever to that club.

in regards to Blighty if he was let to coach his 2nd yr with and saw players like Kosi and roo come thru the draft etc and saw that there was a great future ahead he would of got more motivated trust me, the biggest mistake was letting him go no doubt cause when he relised the talent coming thru he would of delivered a flag in the immediate years no question, i mean Thomas's coaching esp against Syn ine prem final would have to be the worst coaching performance ever seen and anyone who was at that game knows what i am talking about!

 

[saintsownthedome]

Grant thomas is not to blame whatsoever, if anyone needed to be sacked it is your pathetic fitness and medicos, the only problem st kilda has is getting your players on the park. Furthermore why is Rod Butterss being forgotten here, he is the source of your problems, why does he feel the need to bring the club into disrepute by constantly appearing before the media slagging thomas, making allegations that thomas has told your players to leave. All that does is generate suspicion about players futures at the club, placing an unwanted pressure to their lives, detracting them from the task at hand, winning football games. Rod needs to be the bigger man and ignore thomas's sledging and get on with his job, for all this public catfight is doing is placing undeserving pressure on the new boy Ross Lyon.
so Rod put a sock in it, keep your fight behind closed doors, let Ross get on with his job and who knows you might even have a chance of keeping Saint Nick

Who made the allegations that Thomas has told players to leave ?

 

[skelly12]

Who made the allegations that Thomas has told players to leave ?

Are you kidding? constantly we hear about how grant has urged riewoldt north and dal to the bombers

 

[St DAC]

Are you kidding? constantly we hear about how grant has urged riewoldt north and dal to the bombers

Such rumours have been denied consistently by GT, and have had no shred of proof offered as to their validity. Do you believe everything you read in the papers?

 

[bubblegoose]

Are you kidding? constantly we hear about how grant has urged riewoldt north and dal to the bombers

Hear it from anyone credible?

 

[Bourky23]

Hear it from anyone credible?

yeah... me!

 

[saintsownthedome]

Are you kidding? constantly we hear about how grant has urged riewoldt north and dal to the bombers

We do we hear about that ? Have you got a source that you want to put here - or are you happy just sounding like a guy who needs to make a big statement ?

 

[BrianSpeaking]

yeah... me!

The word is Brisbane will offer Wood or Leuenberger as well Power and their first draft pick for Rooey. Will offer Rooey a 5 year $5 million deal.
Will he take it? I doubt it but who knows?
Just our luck he will.

 

[skelly12]

Such rumours have been denied consistently by GT, and have had no shred of proof offered as to their validity. Do you believe everything you read in the papers?

are you so naive as to ignore everything you read?

 

[jodo27]

Anyone who thinks Thomas has no influence on the players is a joke, his daughter is dating Steven baker so i guess he wouldn't be asking steve any qts on the Saints etc,

You are a complete moron.

GTs methods were different but he was at least settting positive results. i.e Finals 3 years in a row.

Sadly the ethos at StKilda is to sack coaches/players and glorify administrators. That is why their history is so tragic.

 

[della]

sacking coaches has been the downful of the club i agree, so when u sack one of the best coaches of recent times not even halfway thru his contract thats tragic and one that will haunt the club for a long time, i don't care what Blighty was doing, the guys is diff, look at some of the stuff he did at geelong and Adel, his very diff but someone who gets results, Thomas putting the knife is his back was the beginning of the end for the Saints, how Thomas lasted that long and underachieved with such a talented list is a joke, i have already said it but his coaching in that prem finla against syd was the worst coaching i have seen ever and people can talk all they want but this man has torn this club apart and i don't know if it will recover anytime soon.

 

[saintsownthedome]

sacking coaches has been the downful of the club i agree, so when u sack one of the best coaches of recent times not even halfway thru his contract thats tragic and one that will haunt the club for a long time, i don't care what Blighty was doing, the guys is diff, look at some of the stuff he did at geelong and Adel, his very diff but someone who gets results, Thomas putting the knife is his back was the beginning of the end for the Saints, how Thomas lasted that long and underachieved with such a talented list is a joke, i have already said it but his coaching in that prem finla against syd was the worst coaching i have seen ever and people can talk all they want but this man has torn this club apart and i don't know if it will recover anytime soon.

Tell me about the coaching in the 2005 Preliminary Final vs Sydney. What was it exactly that makes you think it was the worst coaching effort ever ??

 

[Sir Robert]

i actually follow Geelong so i know how u guys feel and wanted u to win a flag if we couldn't as both teams have suffered so long, i love my club and i love the game and feel u guys just could of done more if things were diff, just feel Thomas was the worst thing that has happ ever to that club.

in regards to Blighty if he was let to coach his 2nd yr with and saw players like Kosi and roo come thru the draft etc and saw that there was a great future ahead he would of got more motivated trust me, the biggest mistake was letting him go no doubt cause when he relised the talent coming thru he would of delivered a flag in the immediate years no question, i mean Thomas's coaching esp against Syn ine prem final would have to be the worst coaching performance ever seen and anyone who was at that game knows what i am talking about!

Could not agree with you more on that one.

There are a million things going wrong at the moment. Can't fully blame Thomas, but there is no doubt that since he has left things have fallen apart. His band aid techniques have cost us big-time.