Tim Paine

[SCARD]

Tim Paine is to have more surgery on his finger thus ruling him out for 3 months. This should ensure Haddin keeps his spot for the moment. Long term it may prove a problem for the selectors. Without Paine, there is no obvious replacement for Haddin so if Paine's injury puts him out for a very long time where do the selectors go? Wade's glove work appears sub standard. Maybe Hartley. Dunk looks an interesting prospect for the future.

 

[alfy!]

Australian supporters are the big losers here.

 

[Ducky Tie]

Tim Paine is to have more surgery on his finger thus ruling him out for 3 months. This should ensure Haddin keeps his spot for the moment. Long term it may prove a problem for the selectors. Without Paine, there is no obvious replacement for Haddin so if Paine's injury puts him out for a very long time where do the selectors go? Wade's glove work appears sub standard. Maybe Hartley. Dunk looks an interesting prospect for the future.

Wade's keeping is not sub standard. That is a myth. Especially over the last two years it has become quite good. Far superior to Haddin's.

 

[dan warna]

just the excuse to keep Baddin in the side longer.

 

[Ron]

Wade's keeping is not sub standard. That is a myth. Especially over the last two years it has become quite good. Far superior to Haddin's.

No it isn't. It's probably on par with Haddin's, he still drops catches and lets byes through.

He isn't a bad glovesman, but he isn't that good either.

 

[Hellgood]

Is Wade's keeping substandard though? One person says something on BF and two weeks later it's fact. Haddin is also a substandard keeper. Wade is a better batsman so even if his keeping is ordinary then he is still a better option than Haddin.

 

[Bomber Bears]

Wade or Nev then

 

[Simple Jack]

No it isn't. It's probably on par with Haddin's, he still drops catches and lets byes through.

He isn't a bad glovesman, but he isn't that good either.

No, it isn't. It was on par with Haddins 12-18 months ago but it's much better now.

Every keeper lets through byes and drops catches, Wade does these things far, far less than Haddin.

He also took the record for catches in a sheild season last year.

Plus, he at least has shown he values his wicket more than Bad.

 

[Ducky Tie]

No it isn't. It's probably on par with Haddin's, he still drops catches and lets byes through.

He isn't a bad glovesman, but he isn't that good either.

Ridiculous statement(in bold). Also, have you seen the amount of byes Paine let through in the Aus A series before he got injured? Everyone lets through byes. Wade lets less through than Paine I would say.

 

[Martyn_30_]

Wade was the logical replacement for Haddin anyway his keeping is better than Haddins and his batting record by the end of his career won't be much different from Gilchrist's.

 

[Surkin]

Haddin is not a bad keeper.

 

[Tassieboy]

Sad to say it, but that could possibly be it for Paine - for a couple of years at least. We need stability, and if Haddin retires or gets dropped this summer and is replaced with Wade, it would then not be necessary to drop Wade for Paine as they are both about the same quality in my eyes.

All the best to him

 

[Ricketts]

Peter Nevill come on down.

But nah, seriously, Haddin will be on the WI tour now.

 

[RIOLIUSTAR]

Chop it off already

 

[DREAM TEAM BUFF]

Paine should just give up been a keeper and just be a batsman.

He could be at slips and Wade could be the keeper could that work ???

 

[CAS79]

Is Wade's keeping substandard though? One person says something on BF and two weeks later it's fact. Haddin is also a substandard keeper. Wade is a better batsman so even if his keeping is ordinary then he is still a better option than Haddin.

Like Paine being the chosen one and Bigfooty suddenly hates him.

Wades keeping has improved but up to the stumps still big questions to be asked.

Paine howere is probably finsished, hands cant be trusted to hold up.

 

[Simple Jack]

Like Paine being the chosen one and Bigfooty suddenly hates him.

Wades keeping has improved but up to the stumps still big questions to be asked.

Paine howere is probably finsished, hands cant be trusted to hold up.

Paine is undoubtedly 'the chosen one'.

He is 100% in the Clarke 'goldenchild' mould. The fact that he was being talked up as a future Australian captain before even having played a test match supports this.

Having said that, I don't think BF hates Paine. I certainly don't. I just hate the fact that because he is next in line, we are being forced to endure Bad Haddin because CA just point blank will not pick anyone else (Wade in this case) who might take the place of one of their 'chosen ones'.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Paine is undoubtedly 'the chosen one'.

He is 100% in the Clarke 'goldenchild' mould. The fact that he was being talked up as a future Australian captain before even having played a test match supports this.

Having said that, I don't think BF hates Paine. I certainly don't. I just hate the fact that because he is next in line, we are being forced to endure Bad Haddin because CA just point blank will not pick anyone else (Wade in this case) who might take the place of one of their 'chosen ones'.

It has nothing to do with the fact that he is a chosen one, its got to do with the fact that Wade is just as average at keeping as Haddin, so they might as well just keep Haddin going.

 

[Bob Neil]

I'm surprised that Hartley doesn't get more of a mention in these discussions...his keeping looks high quality to me and it seems that his batting results have improved significantly. What am I missing?

 

[Simple Jack]

It has nothing to do with the fact that he is a chosen one, its got to do with the fact that Wade is just as average at keeping as Haddin, so they might as well just keep Haddin going.

For the love of god, stop substantiating this fallacy.

It is NOT as bad as Haddins.

It used to be, between 18-24 months ago.

Just incase you, and Cricket Australia need to be reminded. Present form is important, not past form.

Look what happened when they picked Steve Smith last year, one year AFTER he had been in good form, he flopped.

Same thing happened bringing Hughes back when he was averaging 12-16 in the shield.

Pick or don't pick Wade on his current keeping ability, not his keeping ability of 2 years ago.

 

[Heisenberg_]

No it isn't. It's probably on par with Haddin's, he still drops catches and lets byes through.

He isn't a bad glovesman, but he isn't that good either.

If you said this 2 years ago it would be correct.
Since then he has flown past that useless prick Haddin with the gloves and bat as well and has the ability to bat as the situation requires, not like it's the last over of a 20/20 match every ball he faces.

 

[Heisenberg_]

Haddin is not a bad keeper.

Yeah he is a ****ing dreadful keeper

 

[Thommo 42]

Paine is not only the chosen one because he is the far superior keeper to Wade, it's also because he is viewed as the next test skipper.

I like Wade, but despite protestations above - he remains an average keeper who is a very good aggressive batsman. Sounds pretty familiar to the bloke we already have in the Test XI. Paine is probably the best keeper behind Hartley, and is an excellent batsman as well, who does have the ability to bat up the order - though unlikely he would at test level.

 

[Bradesmaen]

For the love of god, stop substantiating this fallacy.

It is NOT as bad as Haddins.

It used to be, between 18-24 months ago.

Just incase you, and Cricket Australia need to be reminded. Present form is important, not past form.

Look what happened when they picked Steve Smith last year, one year AFTER he had been in good form, he flopped.

Same thing happened bringing Hughes back when he was averaging 12-16 in the shield.

Pick or don't pick Wade on his current keeping ability, not his keeping ability of 2 years ago.

I'm talking the wade of 2 weeks ago, not the wade of now. His keeping is Brad Haddin level, his batting is slightly above Paines. End of story.

 

[CHIEF SMACKAHOE]

Haddin is not a bad keeper.

he's certainly not a good one