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Which AFC deserter were/are you most salty towards?

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Godallblighty said:
Surely the club would say, 'We won't if you won't.'
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I wished we had! But it wasn't just the AFL putting a muzzle on us (and threatening to come down like a tonne of bricks if we didn't) - but also the lawyers who would have correctly said, if you only come out and deny some things, then everything you don't deny automatically becomes fact. Best not to say anything at all.
 
DJ75 said:
I spoke to someone last night that had recently spoken with Trigg (int he last 2 days). The club are fully expecting to get smashed here. We are in some very deep trouble.
The fine as reported sounds about right. We will lose the first 2 round picks in the next two drafts (which makes it three drafts in total) - this is going to crush us in 6-10 years time. Some very lean years are ahead.
Trigg is expecting to be banned from any and all AFL positions for a lengthy period of time. He was hoping to argue it down to a 6 month ban, but it is most likely to be years. He won't be our CEO this time next week. Reid will cop a similar ban. Harper also although a smaller time frame.

Ultimately Trigg is gone, Reid punished, Harper gone. We lose the equivalent of 8 first round draft picks (the 6 from the National drafts plus the 2 we could have had from Brisbane for Tippett). Our ability to negotiate and keep our star players in the future will be massively hampered. Our premiership window that was just opening will close exceptionally quickly. We will need to become absolute masters of trading and free-agent trickery.
And all of this for a selfish egotistic nob-end who is an overpaid and overrated tosser. Management at its finest people.
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Glad we spent up big on lawyers. Seriously, I reckon I could have negotiated that outcome.
 

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Wood_Duck said:
I think one of the conditions placed upon us by the AFL was that we didn't release anything to the press. It wouldn't surprise me if this will be one of the conditions placed on our 'lenient' penalty tomorrow.:(
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Hopefully there is so much detail out in the public domain already that there won't be a gag order or anything
 
So if they are looking at banning people for over 12 months, where does that leave tippett if found guilty?
 
Tippett will be warned and 'banned' from joining the Swans training until after the Pre-season cup. It will be something pathetic like that.
I doubt the AFL want to take on Tippett, his Dad, his QC and the AFLPA by banning him.
We will be the ones held responsible, after all he was but an innocent youngster at the time....
 
Just on Tippett, if he is de-registered tomorrow (effective immediately) will that legally prevent him from putting a price on his head as a Category A player in the pre-season draft? I wouldn't have thought that unregistered players would be able to put a price on their heads in any draft. Does anyone know the rules relating to unregistered players and the drafts?
 

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The flip side to the 'our penalties will be measured against Melbourne's and therefore wont be that bad' argument is that maybe the AFL is teeing up to smash Melbourne out of the park and so we get a stiff penalty so theirs doesnt look too harsh.

then again internal consistency hasnt always been a priority at the AFL.
 
Peter J said:
This is such a significant back flip that we can only summise deals have been done left right and centre. I suspect not only between AFC and AFL but also our board and administrators.

If Triggys career was on the line I doubt he would be rolling over tomorrow nor would harper. My tip is they will keep their jobs, which I don't say is right, just my read.

Interesting to see how Tippett ends up, fighting to the end with the no knowledge defence. I would think some of our admissions will hurt his case.
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Agree. The club could not have sacked Trigg prior to the outcome of the investigations based on the very cornerstone of legal/proper process. What would this have said to the world of our situation prior to its conclusion? Could they have suspended him for the duration of the process?....maybe? If he is banned for a period by the AFL then someone will act in that position and I guessing that he will be permanently replaced during that time. How it all shakes out down the line is also anyones guess.
 
Johnny Rutten said:
Just on Tippett, if he is de-registered tomorrow (effective immediately) will that legally prevent him from putting a price on his head as a Category A player in the pre-season draft? I wouldn't have thought that unregistered players would be able to put a price on their heads in any draft. Does anyone know the rules relating to unregistered players and the drafts?
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Excellent question. Is scottwade about?

Now there is a Sydney poster who is always welcome :thumbsu: :thumbsu:
 
Wood_Duck said:
its the AFL.
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Doesn't have to be press release. That's why it's called 'leaking'. Just get the story out there.

jenny61_99 said:
I wished we had! But it wasn't just the AFL putting a muzzle on us (and threatening to come down like a tonne of bricks if we didn't) - but also the lawyers who would have correctly said, if you only come out and deny some things, then everything you don't deny automatically becomes fact. Best not to say anything at all.
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In what way is it best? Are you saying that we could look more guilty than we do right now? The only way it is a good strategy is if you have nothing truthful to say in your defence.
 

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SpeciousArgument said:
The flip side to the 'our penalties will be measured against Melbourne's and therefore wont be that bad' argument is that maybe the AFL is teeing up to smash Melbourne out of the park and so we get a stiff penalty so theirs doesnt look too harsh.

then again internal consistency hasnt always been a priority at the AFL.
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I still think they will go after the individuals in the Melbourne case and not the club. I don't agree with it, but that's how I see it going down.
 
Carl Spackler said:
Our reputation is in tatters.

We haven't hired a PR firm for nothing.

Copping an absolute kicking in the press day after day with nothing to support our 'side' of the story isn't doing wonders.
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I have to agree with this. Even a remedial level PR strategy would suggest managing the damage. There is nothing to be gained by letting one side dominate the public debate. That's the POINT of PR.
 
crowman_23 said:
I still think they will go after the individuals in the Melbourne case and not the club. I don't agree with it, but that's how I see it going down.
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A melbourne supporting friend of mine has actually considered who he will support if the Dees go under. i dont see it happening but of the two clubs i would rather be in the position we are in. Strong on and off the field is a better time to be copping penalties than the reverse IMO
 
xchadders said:
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/adelaide-saga-recalls-blues-horror-of-2002-20121128-2adbk.html

a much better article.
EQ can go get stuffed.
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Not sure why you are so against Emma Quayle, she is arguably the best journalist covering AFL, her article last night was just reporting what she believes are the facts and she did it in a well presented manner.

Get mad at the AFC administrators who dreamt all this up and Pink Panther like tried to cover it up.

Whoever DID VETO the trade to Brisbane last year must definitely get the chop. All of this would probably never have been discovered and we'd be a heap of high draft picks better off beginning in the 2011 draft.
 
Godallblighty said:
Doesn't have to be press release. That's why it's called 'leaking'. Just get the story out there.



In what way is it best? Are you saying that we could look more guilty than we do right now? The only way it is a good strategy is if you have nothing truthful to say in your defence.
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I really can't answer that. I think at the time it was sound advice. Now I'm not so sure.
 
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