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Which AFC deserter were/are you most salty towards?

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Kickin_Goals said:
Gee do you think maybe tippets rated a bit highly?
I don't rate him so highly but then I'm not paying for his bullshit.
So this bloke that's not being fielded is great, fine he's as good as Brodie Martin then I rate Brodie I figure you might not rate tippet or live in fantasy land where value for value doesn't exist.
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Give me a break. Sorry for answering FAITH'S question honestly.

I'm not the one doing the trade. That is the swans and the crows.

I have said before I personally hope the deal dose not go ahead. I like our list as it is. No need for Tippett
 

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Super sub said:
Give me a break. Sorry for answering FAITH'S question honestly.

I'm not the one doing the trade. That is the swans and the crows.

I have said before I personally hope the deal dose not go ahead. I like our list as it is. No need for Tippett
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Yep, Swans are fine even in losing a couple of players that have question marks around them regardless of how they are rated they would still be fine.
 
Carmo said:
Catman, regarding point (1)

Consider these players
Grundy = good
Jesse White = bad
Parker = medium
Mitchell = good
Reid = good
Pyke = medium
Rohan = medium
Hannebery = good
Dennis Lane = bad

The rating is not the rating of the player, its a rating of meeting crows needs, parker is a good player but we dont need that type so badly

so the sort of things we want are

a good player above plus 6-25 draft pick

a medium player plus an early and mid first round draft pick
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Parker & Rohan are better than Grundy . Will be twice the players of Grundy. Anyone with a football nose can see this. Grundy will not make Adelaide any better at all. Would only be a solid player. Rohan if recovered and still has speed would make us better
 
I am lost as to why the attack on Sydney. Was nothing learnt from our trading last year.

Sydney could have waited for the PSD and taken Armstrong as he was uncontracted. Instead we traded Lewis Johnston (who was contracted) to you for Armstrong and a pick in the 30's.

You all hooped and hollered about how much you one out of that deal. And that's fine, we got what we wanted out of it.

So why would we shaft you guys this time.

I am not saying we will necessarily be able to give you what you want. In which case you either take it or the deal falls over. Noble said tonight that he was concerned the deal may not happen.

If that happens then both clubs move on and you try and find a new buyer. Probably Brisbane who suck at trading.

I would be surprised if the swans would want to wait around for the PSD to try and get him. It would be too great a risk. We have the salary cap and we need to improve our list.

And we don't send guys to the PSD to get a bargain.

We try and do a deal, not always equal but one where we can come back next year.

I do not know if the swans are prepared to give up Mitchell or Parker (I hope not) but they are good at getting a deal done, and most times a fair one.
 
Peter J said:
I must have written at least 2 lengthy posts on why he is sought after and why his development has been slower. Now obviously you don't respect me or anything i write, I couldn't care less.

It is mildly irritating to read the same, shallow observations, of this player over and over again.

I suggest you do about 20 mins research and you may see something a whole lot of others do, including our club.
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Your later post that suggests that Giles for Tippett is only slightly unders shows that your judgement is very questionable.
I share the same thoughts as Vader and many others. Yes, I trust the judgement of Sando. I have seen the videos of GHS and I have read the Geelong supporters postings about him. I have read all the posts about his delayed development. The videos shows nothing out of the ordinary other than his disposal with left and right foot is good. Perhaps this is why the Buckley comparisons have been made. I am not knocking the guy and I hope he becomes as good as some people expect him to. However the point has been made and it is a valid one that he is not a proven performer at AFL level. Luke Parker is also only 19. He has also been in the AFL system for 2 years and yet he has played 32 games of AFL football and has a 30 posession game and numerous ones in the 20's. This must count more than 24 posessions in a VFL game.
 
Phantom Crow said:
Its funny how Sydney supporters come on our board and are eager and happy to trade players that played a minor or insignificant role in their season and expect us to accept it.

The supporters are hurt and upset about losing what the player (cant even bring myself to say his name now) bought to the team, ie a KPF and a 2nd ruckman and not to mention a damn good mark.

Here is a message to Sydney supporters you have to hurt losing one of your players and/or draft picks.

IMO Tippett >>>>>> Jetta and yet Sydney wont trade him or offer him up?!
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Fine i'll explain it,

Jetta is more important to our gameplan than Tippett,
Our list has just shown, literally less than 2 weeks ago that it can win a GF.
If we had lost then some of your trades may be better received (as far as Parker or Grundy goes).

Tippett is uncontracted, and wants to come to us, what his value is, is irrelevent, the majority of Swans supporters would prefer we dont get him if it involves trading away too much quality. Swans recruitment staff are fairly confident they wont need to get rid of any premiership players.

If we can get him cheap then great, welcome addition, should improve our forward line, if not then also great, we look forwards to the improvement of Sam Reid and Tommy Walsh to improve our forward line.

In addition to the recent premiership you have problems based on the fact that, of the 22 that played 7 are 29 or older, which gives them limited trade value, but also increases the value of our fringe players (at least the first 7) TO US as they will be needed to fill these positions in the immediate future.

Tippett is no doubt being chased, but the harm of breaking up a premiership team, especially if noone wants to go, may be a price too high in most Swans supporters eyes.

Whatever our recruitment personnel do, Im sure they will try their best to accommodate a deal without paying overs.
 
FAITH said:
Our draft list was smith then atley then guthrie then GHS, so by the time our tambling pick was available GHS was the only one there, so we would have taken him.

We are trying hard to get GHS and Howard but Howard is contracted so up to the bulldogs what happens, GHS needs to decide if he wants to stay at Geelong or come to us.
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One thing I am struggling with FAITH, or anyone else for that matter, is that we are talking about bringing new players into the club, but at the same time we seem to be re-signing virtually all of the players on our list.

The only players that I know of that won't there next year are Tippett, Knights, Doughty and Symes. That's 4 vacancies that I can think of.

Are there any more?

Crouch comes on the list. That leaves 3 vacancies, as long as we leave Cullinan on the Rookie list.

Giles and GHS appear to be trade-in targets. That only leaves one vacancy and there's no way we would be only having one pick in this draft.

Are we going to trade out players as part of our trades in? Are we going to pay Tambling out??

Can anybody please enlighten me on this apparent conundrum?


PS What is the contract status of Johncock, Otten, and McKernan
 
^^ That's a long winded way of saying you want to be able to have your cake and eat it.

We're not talking about a Mark Seaby or a Tony Armstrong style player here. This is a guy who will command a salary of close to $1 million per season. Collingwood got pick 17 for Wellingham who is a middle of the road midfielder - Tippet is worth far more than the #23 + Jesse White bullshit you seem to expect us to jump at.

The sheer stupidity of Sydney posters is astounding.
 

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With 7 players over 29 injuries can end careers quickly. We only have to go back to 2010 when we had veterans in the same age bracket....that went pear shaped very quickly. Do you think you have the 22-25 years olds ready to step up when these older players break down? Do you think you can fill all of these 7 spots in your best 22 with players already on your list? You need players like Tippe$$ and your club has gone out and chased him not the other way round. You will be making some more moneyball trades in this year and next.

I think the chances of us getting Jetta are zero, but thankfully footy clubs don't trade players or hire coaches for that matter based on what is written on BF. Swans will have to trade more than 22 and steak knives for Skirt and a third party trade or trades would be the only way I can see this getting done. The AFC has been reamed too often in the last couple of seasons and Sando won't roll over like others before him.
 

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Jack2White said:
No, it's a we don't really give a shit if we don't get any "Tippett" cake.
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The $$$ being thrown at him suggests Longmire and Ireland think otherwise.

Most of us here would prefer he went to Brisbane.
 
jackster83 said:
^^ That's a long winded way of saying you want to be able to have your cake and eat it.

We're not talking about a Mark Seaby or a Tony Armstrong style player here. This is a guy who will command a salary of close to $1 million per season. Collingwood got pick 17 for Wellingham who is a middle of the road midfielder - Tippet is worth far more than the #23 + Jesse White bullshit you seem to expect us to jump at.

The sheer stupidity of Sydney posters is astounding.
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I haven't seen where Noble or Beatson have come out and said what has been offered. That is pure speculation. Noble said they did not even meet today.

So anything that Sydney may or may not have done today is again speculation.

To quote David Noble " I can't comment on all the speculation because it just continues to grow untruths"

He also said this will probably go until the last week. Heaven help us all
 
bernie lomax said:
Gold, by Leroy

...but last I checked, Sydney is not in Queensland.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...wait-for-players/story-fn83zfxo-1226493112379
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Really sticks it up Tippo! I believe Jerka was good mates with Tippo as well due to their obvious basketball love, so this article was a little unexpected, but highlights how many bridges he has burnt at Adelaide. After what Noble said today, and now Jenkins, Kurt has handled this in the worst way possible.

It sounds like he still has mates at the club, but even they are hanging by a thread now. Good player to bring into the culture of the Swans!!
 
Jack2White said:
Fine i'll explain it,

Jetta is more important to our gameplan than Tippett,
Our list has just shown, literally less than 2 weeks ago that it can win a GF.
If we had lost then some of your trades may be better received (as far as Parker or Grundy goes).

Tippett is uncontracted, and wants to come to us, what his value is, is irrelevent, the majority of Swans supporters would prefer we dont get him if it involves trading away too much quality. Swans recruitment staff are fairly confident they wont need to get rid of any premiership players.

If we can get him cheap then great, welcome addition, should improve our forward line, if not then also great, we look forwards to the improvement of Sam Reid and Tommy Walsh to improve our forward line.

In addition to the recent premiership you have problems based on the fact that, of the 22 that played 7 are 29 or older, which gives them limited trade value, but also increases the value of our fringe players (at least the first 7) TO US as they will be needed to fill these positions in the immediate future.

Tippett is no doubt being chased, but the harm of breaking up a premiership team, especially if noone wants to go, may be a price too high in most Swans supporters eyes.

Whatever our recruitment personnel do, Im sure they will try their best to accommodate a deal without paying overs.
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Noone legitimately expects Jetta involved, he is mentioned because of similar development faith.
Adelaide are just looking for something near 800k worth of value that improves the side and will do what serves them best. The SFC I highly doubt are as stupid as the supporter base who tend to believe you can keep all your players when you make a trade for the highest paid player at a side. Pretty much everything else is irrelevant. No-one gives a flying **** who the ponce wants to go to.
We all know only internal rating of the player by the other club is important in putting something on the table.
 
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