Top Marks for Bush

[Frodo]

I must admit that I expected an irrational response from the USA that would have caused killings of more helpless victims very quickly.
I believe that the response has been rational (so far) and I appluad president Bush and hs team for their restraint. I am sure that the USA public have been baying for retaliation.

 

[Stegelator]

Originally posted by Frodo
I must admit that I expected an irrational response from the USA that would have caused killings of more helpless victims very quickly.
I believe that the response has been rational (so far) and I appluad president Bush and hs team for their restraint. I am sure that the USA public have been baying for retaliation.

Yeah He Has done a great job! Well Done to him!

 

[Dan26]

Tony Blair.

Tony Blair really seems to be leading the non-USA push for sensible retaliation. I wouldn't be surprised if Blair (who is a very popular leader) has been in constant talks with Bush. Tony Blair may have a bigger influence on Bush that what you might think.

His (Blair's) speech yesterday was fantastic. "We will attack their army's, not their citizens. We will cut of the Taliban's supply, their finances...." he said. It was a great speech.

 

[Dan26]

Originally posted by bluecrow
Whilst I love Bush's accent, I don't think much of him. He's a good leader, but he doesn't seem to have much of a clue. It appears, to me, that the people behind him - Powell, etc, do most of the hard work and he just acts on info they give him. Picky, I know, but it's just an observation.

I agree. I think he is a puppet. I have fair more respect for Blair than I do Bush.

Thats not to say I don't respect Bush. Anyone who presides over the free world, regardless of who pulls his strings, must have some remarkable qualities.

 

[Dippers Donuts]

You're all kiddin' arent ya?

The only reason the yanks haven't gone in hell for leather yet is because they have NO PROOF that Bin Laden was responsible for the attacks. Lots of theories, speculation that Bin Laden was the culprit (I have no doubt he is responsible) but no hard, tangible evidence. Thats why they have provided no proof to the various interested parties (media, foreign governments...)

Thats the only thing stopping the yanks from bombing the afghanis...

 

[Dippers Donuts]

Originally posted by Dan25


I agree. I think he is a puppet. I have fair more respect for Blair than I do Bush.

Thats not to say I don't respect Bush. Anyone who presides over the free world, regardless of who pulls his strings, must have some remarkable qualities.

like being able to milk his daddy's power and influence...?

 

[Dippers Donuts]

Re: Tony Blair.

Originally posted by Dan25
Tony Blair really seems to be leading the non-USA push for sensible retaliation. I wouldn't be surprised if Blair (who is a very popular leader) has been in constant talks with Bush. Tony Blair may have a bigger influence on Bush that what you might think.

given that the british are/will be the greatest contributor to the US military effort you would expect constant dialogue would you not....

 

[Dan26]

Re: Re: Tony Blair.

Originally posted by Dippers Donuts


given that the british are/will be the greatest contributor to the US military effort you would expect constant dialogue would you not....

I was speaking more in reference to Blair's personal influence, rather than any specific dialogue.

 

[Frodo]

Re: Tony Blair.

Originally posted by Dan25
Tony Blair really seems to be leading the non-USA push for sensible retaliation. I wouldn't be surprised if Blair (who is a very popular leader) has been in constant talks with Bush. Tony Blair may have a bigger influence on Bush that what you might think.

His (Blair's) speech yesterday was fantastic. "We will attack their army's, not their citizens. We will cut of the Taliban's supply, their finances...." he said. It was a great speech.

I think Blair has missed a great opportunity of linking USA funded IRA terrorism with the WTC terrorism. Without USA funds and arms many lives would have been saved in UK.

The war against terrorism has to embrace every country including the USA who needs to look at their own activities, not only with the IRA but in Southern Africa and South America.

By not linking the issue Blair shows he is afraid of upsetting Bush.

 

[RAGEIN]

I believe he has been very responsible. While there is a natural response for an immediate payback he has been patient and investigated the whole terrorism aspect in conjunction with other countries. He has given the Taliban an opportunity to comply with requests to turnover Bin Ladan.
He will act in war there is no doubt about it.

 

[Dippers Donuts]

Originally posted by bluecrow


Dipper,
Just yesterday the UN came out and said that the US had enough proof to launch attacks on Bin Laden and Al Qaeda, and that the attacks had the support of the UN, with the "if you attack one, you attack us all," theory. I'll try to find the article if I can.

I think I know which article you mean there bluecrow, I am still suspicious however.

If they have the proof then give it to the Taliban. That way there are no excuses for blowing them away if the taliban refuse to hand over Bin Laden.

 

[Joel]

Originally posted by Dippers Donuts
You're all kiddin' arent ya?

The only reason the yanks haven't gone in hell for leather yet is because they have NO PROOF that Bin Laden was responsible for the attacks. Lots of theories, speculation that Bin Laden was the culprit (I have no doubt he is responsible) but no hard, tangible evidence. Thats why they have provided no proof to the various interested parties (media, foreign governments...)

Thats the only thing stopping the yanks from bombing the afghanis...

Get off it, if the Americans wanted to attack they would. No one can stop them.

 

[Dippers Donuts]

Originally posted by Joel


Get off it, if the Americans wanted to attack they would. No one can stop them.

Huh?
I never said the yanks couldn't attack.

 

[Pessimistic]

Re: Re: Tony Blair.

Originally posted by Frodo


I think Blair has missed a great opportunity of linking USA funded IRA terrorism with the WTC terrorism. Without USA funds and arms many lives would have been saved in UK.

The war against terrorism has to embrace every country including the USA who needs to look at their own activities, not only with the IRA but in Southern Africa and South America.

By not linking the issue Blair shows he is afraid of upsetting Bush.

The Irish 'question' is being solved by addressing the causes as well as using the rule of law. Eventually the Western v Middle east question will need to be addressed along these lines. As (ireland) is progressing quite well I don't think the UK will be asking for US 'help'.

Bush mentioned that they were targetting terrorism with 'global reach' that conveniently excludes things like the IRA, Tamils, Basques etc)

I for one wouldn't mind if he spoke to his 'Daddy'. the gulf war was a difficult time and conducted about as well as it could be. Many wanted the alliance to continue and wipe out saddam but this was beyond the UN resolution they worked under.
The common opinion is that if saddam had been destroyed, then an Iraqui "taliban" would be there in its place - so keeping saddam is the lesser of a few 'evils'

I was amused at how many scribes i=used the unfortunate disaster to somehow vilify the refugees coming here. For one the war might mean there are many more refugees and if a war exists then no government can legally send anyone back.

Howard is being quoted as 'strong' and beazley weak but their response was exactly the same. Ironically nobody has been sent back but to new zealand where they can come here in a couple of years anyway. How 'Strong' is that ?