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You spent 57 mill on something you dont need :confused:. Id be worried if I was both sides IMO and laughing all the way to the hills if I supported any of the top 3 sides

Read what I said, we didn't need them to beat Chelsea. Going forward as Suarez adjusts to the EPL and the team and Carroll gets fit again it will only improve the team as it will see the likes of Kuyt and Maxi relegated to the bench
 
But Carroll wont fit into the current formation. Kuyt is perfect for it. Carroll doesnt have the pace or the hold up play/passing game to take over Kuyts role and do it better. Suarez can come in and fit in for Maxi perfectly

Caroll, well he can warm the pine it seems
 
But Carroll wont fit into the current formation. Kuyt is perfect for it. Carroll doesnt have the pace or the hold up play/passing game to take over Kuyts role and do it better. Suarez can come in and fit in for Maxi perfectly

Caroll, well he can warm the pine it seems

Personally it's debateable if Kuyt is good enough as his first touch is deplorable and his passing is too much of a mixed bag.

That being said considering King Kenny would have a better idea then you or I about how to best utilize them i'd back his judgement on getting the best out of them.
 
Personally it's debateable if Kuyt is good enough as his first touch is deplorable and his passing is too much of a mixed bag.

That being said considering King Kenny would have a better idea then you or I about how to best utilize them i'd back his judgement on getting the best out of them.

Now im confused. You guys have been bleating on the Liverpool board how Commolli is going to take over signings since Woy got the sack now we are backing King Kennys judgment :confused:

Personally im not too sure Kenny was behind the Andy Carroll transfer. Hes hardly the type of player Kenny has targeted in the past and I cant see why he would want him if his goal was to play a 5 man defensive system like he is now....
 

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But Carroll wont fit into the current formation. Kuyt is perfect for it. Carroll doesnt have the pace or the hold up play/passing game to take over Kuyts role and do it better. Suarez can come in and fit in for Maxi perfectly

Caroll, well he can warm the pine it seems

Just because we're playing 3-5-2/5-3-2 right now doesn't mean we have to play it when Carroll returns.

--------Reina
Kelly Agger Carra Johnson
-----Gerrard Lucas
---Kuyt Meireles Suarez
--------Carroll

Simple, a CB gets benched and Carroll comes in while Suarez replaces Maxi, that's our ideal 11.
 
It does if your winning all the time Kaan10. Kennys not stupid enough to change a winning formula just to fit one man in.

A fair chance Carroll is out for the year as it is and even if he does get fit theres a fair chance that atm hes not in the starting lineup. You cant get Suarez in atm because of the form/formation, what chance would a completely foreign object to what you have like Carroll have a chance?

In the end its not that big of a deal. If your winning it doesnt matter whose playing as far as Liverpool are concerned.
 
Kennys not stupid enough to change a winning formula just to fit one man in.

Carra came in(although it wasn't a formation change)

You cant get Suarez in atm because of the form/formation.

Has played about 25 minutes for a few months now so he's not ready to be starting, I expect him to replace Maxi shortly(possibly against Wigan)


Kenny will get the best out of the team, if a 4231 is more suited(which IMO it is when Carroll returns) then I believe he'll do that, it wont change a winning formula just make the most of our best 11(which right now is the 5-3-2)

But for now like you say we don't need to worry as Carroll isn't even up for selection.
 
Carra came in(although it wasn't a formation change)



Has played about 25 minutes for a few months now so he's not ready to be starting, I expect him to replace Maxi shortly(possibly against Wigan)

Personally I think we'll change to a 4-2-3-1 with the squad I posted above in time, but for now like you say we don't need to worry as Carroll isn't even up for selection.

Im talking short term. As in the next 6 months. No doubt you overpaid in the region of 5-10 mill pounds in order to get Carroll in for January as opposed to the end of the season.

My point is aslong as you are winning hes not gonna be thrown in and all of a sudden you have overpaid for someone you never ended up needing/using. All this is providing hes fit in the first place.

I personally think Kenny would play a 4-3-3 if given the full choice but with the current players he has id say the system/formation you have is right for the long term.
 
Now im confused. You guys have been bleating on the Liverpool board how Commolli is going to take over signings since Woy got the sack now we are backing King Kennys judgment :confused:

Personally im not too sure Kenny was behind the Andy Carroll transfer. Hes hardly the type of player Kenny has targeted in the past and I cant see why he would want him if his goal was to play a 5 man defensive system like he is now....

Does Commolli pick the team sheet? No Kenny does that, surely this isn't too hard to comprehend Embers?

As for not the type of player he targets? Chris Sutton says hi
 
Does Commolli pick the team sheet? No Kenny does that, surely this isn't too hard to comprehend Embers?

As for not the type of player he targets? Chris Sutton says hi

How the hell is Carrol compareable to Sutton? Carroll is terrible with his back towards goal

Kenny may pick the team but when you spend 35 mill on someone does he actually have the choice? What do you think everyones gonna say when he benchwarms the most expensive player in your clubs history :o
 

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Kenny may pick the team but when you spend 35 mill on someone does he actually have the choice? What do you think everyones gonna say when he benchwarms the most expensive player in your clubs history :o

More Embers shit stirring

Lots of stories went out after we signed him that Kenny's been talking about how good Carroll is with lots of ex players and friends even before he took over.

Plus why would NESV sign a player without the manager's approval? Sure, Comolli finds the players, but it'd just be stupid if the manager doesn't want him IE Torres Ancelotti. Even stupider if Kenny ain't gonna take over full time and the new man mightn't want Carroll. With the way the owners have been doing things (and that's with class), Kenny certainly had a major hand in Carroll's signing. Lots of reports have said as much

Kenny scouted and loves Suarez, he benched him, so what exactly is your point? You have none and is just talking more and more shit as you go along.
 
IMO Carroll and Suarez will have Kenny chomping at the bit to pair them together when he can.. Suarez will thrive off a big target man playing the ball down for him and bringing in Carroll means Suarez doesn't have to play up front alone which he is not suited to.

If we stick with our 532 then I imagine it will be Carroll up front with Suarez just behind him and Raul in CM but with full license to roam forward playing a similar role he is now. And if not that then a 433 with Kuyt next to those 2...

Don't think Kenny will have any problem fitting those 2 into our side and plan.
 
What do you think everyones gonna say when he benchwarms the most expensive player in your clubs history :o

"True genius that Daglish."
"Great that he's making the 35M man earn and want his spot, will pay dividends for years."
"It's tough on Carroll, but when you've won 10 on the trot what can you do."
"Sure we paid too much but with the new fair play rules it was pay it now or never."
"Kenny selects the team, and with the results he's getting who wouldn't be backing him in."

Just some possibilities.
 
Now im confused. You guys have been bleating on the Liverpool board how Commolli is going to take over signings since Woy got the sack now we are backing King Kennys judgment :confused:

Personally im not too sure Kenny was behind the Andy Carroll transfer. Hes hardly the type of player Kenny has targeted in the past and I cant see why he would want him if his goal was to play a 5 man defensive system like he is now....

To be fair Liverpool haven't had a player of Carrolls size and ability in the air since John Toshack. Though I seem to remember Kenny singing John Aldridge, he wasn't too shabby with his head.

Just need Suarez to be a Keegan or Beardsley...;):D
 

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