Mega Thread Trading, Drafting & General Cattle Rustling Part III

[Whirling Dervish]

So we've ended up with 29, 68, 72, 84 as our first four ND picks.

 

[Sewell Rules]

Melbourne are SO BAD at this. Just swapped Martin for picks 53 and 76 to Brisbane (or there abouts).

It's like watching Freo from a few years back.

Martin was worth Brisbane's Pick 33 at least. Brisbane played hard ball because they knew Melbourne are easy to crack. Pick 73 is worth almost nothing, so its really just Martin for Pick 53, and when you consider that Trent Dennis-Lane was traded for Pick 46 today, that just shows how much Melbourne were ripped off. Martin has shown that he can play anywhere on the ground and is the perfect type for the second ruckman/key position player role. Fair enough dangling him out as trade bait but you have to get something for him.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

Martin was worth Brisbane's Pick 33 at least. Brisbane played hard ball because they knew Melbourne are easy to crack. Pick 73 is worth almost nothing, so its really just Martin for Pick 53, and when you consider that Trent Dennis-Lane was traded for Pick 46 today, that just shows how much Melbourne were ripped off. Martin has shown that he can play anywhere on the ground and is the perfect type for the second ruckman/key position player role. Fair enough dangling him out as trade bait but you have to get something for him.

It's madness isn't it?

I mean Martin has all the hallmarks of a big trade coup. Young enough to develop, shown a bit already, a few seasons into him, tall, talented and can play almost any postion.
Result? Two shitty picks.

I'd take Martin over Dawes, for example, any day of the week. But according to Melbourne Dawes is worth a pick in the first round whereas Martin is worth a third round pick and some loose change? It's nuts.

Sydney on the other hand realise that TDL is excess to their needs, as a depth player. Has been given a few chances at senior level and never really shown anything. Pick 47.

 

[Sewell Rules]

It's madness isn't it?

I mean Martin has all the hallmarks of a big trade coup. Young enough to develop, shown a bit already, a few seasons into him, tall, talented and can play almost any postion.
Result? Two shitty picks.

I'd take Martin over Dawes, for example, any day of the week. But according to Melbourne Dawes is worth a pick in the first round whereas Martin is worth a third round pick and some loose change? It's nuts.

Sydney on the other hand realise that TDL is excess to their needs, as a depth player. Has been given a few chances at senior level and never really shown anything. Pick 47.

Can only imagine they were desperate to get rid of Martin for some reason. Martin is exactly what the lions need as well. Would be in their best 22 I think. Probably as the third tall defender and taking a turn in the ruck.

 

[ScottMaginness]

I was disappointed to lose Young and Murphy, but even with the loss of Gilham, I think we've done ok during this period. Very happy we've got Anderson -- in need of a quality midfielder for the future and he looks a good size. Birchall and Suckling are both long kicking , attacking left footers so we can cover the loss of Young.

 

[Jaeger]

If Jacobs enters the draft I reckon we'll take him with our first pick if he's available.

 

[Brishawk]

If Jacobs enters the draft I reckon we'll take him with our first pick if he's available.

Why wouldn't we have just offered pick 28 for Jacobs? I guess there are some list management considerations but really if we thought he was our man, wouldn't we have grabbed him while we could?

 

[fishtopher]

Cant beleive how many draft picks we've ended up with. Well done hawksfc!

I think we've traded well, but in terms of draft picks all we've done is go backwards. 21 -> 29 65 -> 68 66 -> 72.

 

[arupist]

It's madness isn't it?

I mean Martin has all the hallmarks of a big trade coup. Young enough to develop, shown a bit already, a few seasons into him, tall, talented and can play almost any postion.
Result? Two shitty picks.

I'd take Martin over Dawes, for example, any day of the week. But according to Melbourne Dawes is worth a pick in the first round whereas Martin is worth a third round pick and some loose change? It's nuts.

Sydney on the other hand realise that TDL is excess to their needs, as a depth player. Has been given a few chances at senior level and never really shown anything. Pick 47.

May have been part of a broader cultural clean out at the Dees.

 

[Jaeger]

Why wouldn't we have just offered pick 28 for Jacobs? I guess there are some list management considerations but really if we thought he was our man, wouldn't we have grabbed him while we could?

Yeah good point.

 

[arupist]

Why wouldn't we have just offered pick 28 for Jacobs? I guess there are some list management considerations but really if we thought he was our man, wouldn't we have grabbed him while we could?

I think Port knocked back 15 from North, so I doubt 28 would have got it done.

That said, if Jacobs now walks, they get doughnuts. I would think Port are hoping to convince him to re-sign.

 

[fishtopher]

If Jacobs enters the draft I reckon we'll take him with our first pick if he's available.

Doubt he'll make it that far. Not sure whether North will want to use 15 on him. St Kilda were also keen on him and I reckon they'll use one of their 25/26 picks.

 

[Hodge is God]

So Tippett's not going to Sydney?

 

[Brishawk]

I think Port knocked back 14 from North, so I doubt 28 would have got it done.

That said, if Jacobs now walks, they get doughnuts. I would think Port are hoping to convince him to re-sign.

They knocked back 14?? That is outrageous! What were they expecting to get? I am calling shenanigans on that.

 

[Brishawk]

So Tippett's not going to Sydney?

At best he can go into the draft. I think if he is deregistered he has to go into the national draft where he can't stipulate terms but that is only a theory. I still think he will end up at Sydney but apparently the Lions are keen to draft him.

 

[fishtopher]

At best he can go into the draft. I think if he is deregistered he has to go into the national draft where he can't stipulate terms but that is only a theory. I still think he will end up at Sydney but apparently the Lions are keen to draft him.

If he's deregistered then he can't play next year (at AFL level). More likely he will go into next years draft.

 

[arupist]

They knocked back 14?? That is outrageous! What were they expecting to get? I am calling shenanigans on that.

Not surprised they knocked back 14, since it wasn't North's to begin with. I meant 15, sorry. But I agree with your sentiments. What did they expect? Perhaps they were hoping to re-sign given they don't have much talent left at Alberton.

 

[arupist]

If he's deregistered then he can't play next year (at AFL level). More likely he will go into next years draft.

This is correct. Although the AFL can re-register him after say, a 12-week suspension a-la Greg WIlliams. I suspect then he could still play in 2013 - for Adelaide.

But who knows how it will pan out.

 

[Furn2]

If he's deregistered then he can't play next year (at AFL level). More likely he will go into next years draft.

He doesn't have to be deregistered for the whole year. Greg Williams was deregistered for 11 weeks for cheating the cap at Sydney.

 

[Axle17]

Gillies + Sherman anyone?

 

[Pritchard]

Gillies + Sherman anyone?

Is that a joke?

 

[Hodge is God]

Gillies + Sherman anyone?

Leave mate. Just go.

 

[GoldenHodge]

Well, having some time to think over the trade period, I understand why we got Spangher. Also stoked to get Jed Anderson and Brian Lake. I reckon we might only use one pick in the draft and upgrade 2 rookies.

 

[aussie80s]

Wake me up at 2 o'clock.

I am well and truly awake now.

I had been saying for the last 2 weeks we need midfield depth so super-wrapped with Anderson. Certainly didn't expect that one. Honestly thought our trading was done and dusted on day one. Losing Young for virtually nothing as a FA has now been rectified as we have his replacement with interest - and he came even cheaper.

Had also been strongly disputing the need for a back up tall so I am divided on Spangher. Hope I am proved wrong but has list clogger written on it. Look forward to seeing where they plan to use him. At least he can play both ends.

Am still of the opinion we should add Schneider and McCauley to the main list so I would think there will be at least one delisting to come in the next stage of the list management.

 

[Axle17]

Attitude asied, I quiet enjoyed watching Sherman back in his Brisbane days