Trading Prismall..

[chiliboy]

What would it take to get this guy at Melbourne??

Seriously, I heard SEN talking bout him being a target, and is really exactly what Melbourne needs, a ball magnet with some poise..next to a Key forward..

You cant keep all these players, eventually some will go to get a go at anyother club and make a career move..

Bear in mind, we are really not going to part lightly with draft picks, so dont go asking for pick 1 or 2...

What do you guys think it would take??

Maybe an older player to add some more cream, not that you really need it..

A young player..

What about Prismall for Bruce??? he'd star in your side, can play anywhere..

What about our priority pick 17 or 18??

 

[jim boy]

At a push, 17, but we would probably want a bit higher - say in the 10-15, you'd have to trade up your pick - No players thank you.

 

[rizzo]

What would it take to get this guy at Melbourne??

Seriously, I heard SEN talking bout him being a target, and is really exactly what Melbourne needs, a ball magnet with some poise..next to a Key forward..

You cant keep all these players, eventually some will go to get a go at anyother club and make a career move..

Bear in mind, we are really not going to part lightly with draft picks, so dont go asking for pick 1 or 2...

What do you guys think it would take??

Maybe an older player to add some more cream, not that you really need it..

A young player..

What about Prismall for Bruce??? he'd star in your side, can play anywhere..

What about our priority pick 17 or 18??

Perfect reason why Prismall is overrated around here.

Mate, I would take that offer and head for the hills. We couldn't afford him though

In all honesty i doubt that he would leave, if he does pick 18 would be great.

 

[madcat001]

Not too sure from the demons, Geelong are really go out of their way to avoid trading older players to the club, so initially i'd say Melbourne would have to trade for a pick around 10-18 and then trade it to get Prismal from Geelong. I agree he's not really worth a pick 1 or 2, but he's better than your second round pick will be. FWIW, I can see Melbourne finishing 14th infront of Freo and West Coast.

 

[Duskfire]

I don't think we need Prismall. We should trade him for a young potential defender, either a KPP or maybe a medium sized one similiar to Johncock. Our midfield for the most part is young, we have players like Stokes spending more and more time in there, just seems like we could be using prismalls spot for better use. I have no problem with him - he could potentially be a good player - but we just dont need him.

 

[chiliboy]

At a push, 17, but we would probably want a bit higher - say in the 10-15, you'd have to trade up your pick - No players thank you.

Now thats a bit much for a player not considered in your best 22!

Id say 17-18 is more than enough IMO!

pick 10?? thats a real stretch, especially with the added value of picks this season!!

Bruce for Prismall works, Bruce is a better player, but older, and more suited to Geelong atm..

U have 9 Prismall's, this is my point!!

But id say since well have pick 1 or 2, then 17 or 18, plus 19 or 20, we'd part with one to get Prismall!

 

[DanA]

Now thats a bit much for a player not considered in your best 22!

Id say 17-18 is more than enough IMO!

pick 10?? thats a real stretch, especially with the added value of picks this season!!

Bruce for Prismall works, Bruce is a better player, but older, and more suited to Geelong atm..

U have 9 Prismall's, this is my point!!

But id say since well have pick 1 or 2, then 17 or 18, plus 19 or 20, we'd part with one to get Prismall!

Prismall was a 2nd round pick himself and has done nothing to suggest he won't be a good player so it wouldn't suprise me to see him go for more than pick 17.

Melbourne may be in a postion to use their preseason pick though. He'd do well with Mclean and Jones dishing out to him.

 

[thejester]

He's a ready made midfielder who has shown he can get 30+ touches a game and is inside the window. I'd expect wouldn't take anything less than a low 1st round for him.

 

[halfback dasher]

Perfect reason why Prismall is overrated around here.

Mate, I would take that offer and head for the hills. We couldn't afford him though

In all honesty i doubt that he would leave, if he does pick 18 would be great.

Whats your knock on the kid rizzo?skills,pace,or what.

 

[joe444]

I have never heard or read a trade scenario from a fan which did anything other than offer too little. We don't want (let alone need) Bruce for the same reasons you want to trade him. Forget about it, ain't gonna happen.

Prismall may have to go, sadly, but it will be for picks only.

 

[cat_fanatic]

I have never heard or read a trade scenario from a fan which did anything other than offer too little. We don't want (let alone need) Bruce for the same reasons you want to trade him. Forget about it, ain't gonna happen.

Prismall may have to go, sadly, but it will be for picks only.

Agreed. I can't understand how people seem to think a second round pick is worth more than a young player that has showed something at AFL level. I don't think pick 10 - 15 is unreasonable for Pris if it came to that, but most of all i want him to stay at the Cats.

What if the pick turns out to be a dud? We would have traded a potential great/gun player who may even become a no. 1 mid for another club for a nobody. Even picks in the top ten do not always turn out to be as good as Pris has already proved to be - plenty of examples without naming particular players.

Please stay Prismall!

Anyone else noticed how Kelly is spending time down back? He used to spend most of his time forward/mid and has recently been moved back at different stages. I think he is being tried in different positions due to our midfield depth. This makes sense as he is more of a defensive (great tackler - most tackles last night with 8) mid and the move down back may allow Prismall to slip into the midfield... not to mention our need for small backs.
Just an observation but perhaps i'm reading too much into it. Would like to know others thoughts...

 

[thegerman]

I really hope he stays. We've done it before, where guys aren't the best in the midfield were moved into the backline. Enright, Mackie, Milburn were all tried in the midfield for a long time (in the case of Milburn), yet look where they ended.

Sure we have Corey, Selwood, Ablett and Bartel. If one of those were to go, whom would we bring up to replace them? Brynes, or any of our younger guys who we've just drafted?

Corey recently has been running off half back, which I think is an excellent idea.

We have to keep a rotation going, or find a new role for Prismall. His skills and talent are too good to lose. Those in this forum that state he is only a good VFL player must change their view with his latest run. He left the side with a 25 possie per game average, including a 30-odd possie effort a few weeks back.

Sure, some may say so what, the guy from the Eagles got 45. Prissa's were nearly perfect disposals, his efficiency rate was in the 90's.

Surely we cannot trade that value. I'd like to ask, is J Corey signed yet? As of a few weeks ago he still wasn't, so would we keep Prismall just in case?

If anyone knows whether Corey is signed yet, let me know!

 

[The 747]

Bruce for Prismall works, Bruce is a better player, but older, and more suited to Geelong atm..

Where do I sign?

as Rizzo said though, we could not afford to pay Bruce.

 

[cat_fanatic]

If Corey has signed i haven't seen it in the media.

I don't think the problem is whether we want to keep Prismall, more whether he will stay given the amount of game time he isn't being offered.

 

[rizzo]

Whats your knock on the kid rizzo?skills,pace,or what.

Nothing, i love prismall. But seriously the way he is talked up around here you would think he was the best player in the Geelong team.

To offer someone like Cameron Bruce just shows how much fan fare there is. Prismall is sooo far off being in the same league as Cam Bruce.

He would normally get something better than pick 17, but with the drat going to be shit in the next few years, teams will want to hold their picks.

Also Prissa signed for two years last year, which means if melbourne will have to deal with us if they want him. He can't simply walk into the draft (That is of course if we dont delist him).

 

[thomo24]

We have to keep a rotation going, or find a new role for Prismall. His skills and talent are too good to lose.

I hope he stays too, i feel for him being dropped when he shouldnt be after how he played..defiantly need to find a new roll for him, from what ive seen he seems a pretty good shot at goal, maybe he can get a roll in their or something similar to enright ie. running ball out of the backline. I hope we dont trade him tho, its just sucks we dont know what the GFC have planned for him.

 

[bradlz]

if anyone should be traded surely its kane tenace.... the coaching staff must be kicking themselves for turning down collingwoods pick no.7 a few years ago for kane... he'd be a serviceable player in another team, not necessarily a stand out but maybe a 15-20th player in other sides... we should be looking for a second rd pick for him.

 

[themuddy#3]

i am a prismall fan, but our midfield isnt getting any worse, and he isnt going to get much better (not knocking the bloke at all, just saying that he is about at the top of his powers) so i think that any team with a lacking midfield would give anything over pick 15 for him.

we wont take any established players is my reckoning, only draft picks or prospects.

but the fact is that he is the best back up midfielder in the competition and is a wonderful insurance policy should we have a long term injury to any of our players. we need to give him more games if we want to keep him though,

should we use the cricket australia rotational policy to rest tired midfielders? we are that far ahead

 

[jman_cool]

Firstly let me start by say, I don't think Prismall should be traded. If Geelong trade Prismall that only leaves them with Davenport as back up midfielders. I'm sure it's worth the risk.

 

[cat_fanatic]

i am a prismall fan, but our midfield isnt getting any worse, and he isnt going to get much better (not knocking the bloke at all, just saying that he is about at the top of his powers) so i think that any team with a lacking midfield would give anything over pick 15 for him.

we wont take any established players is my reckoning, only draft picks or prospects.

but the fact is that he is the best back up midfielder in the competition and is a wonderful insurance policy should we have a long term injury to any of our players. we need to give him more games if we want to keep him though,

should we use the cricket australia rotational policy to rest tired midfielders? we are that far ahead

What the ____ makes you think he isn't going to get any better!? Look at Bartel and Ablett after they had played 17 games, you wouldn't have thought they would turn into the guns they are today.

This is the second time i have read a post claiming "Prismall has peaked"; i wasn't aware you could determine when a player is at the "top of their powers" after only a handful of games... silly me.

 

[Carnthe]

You'd think that Melbourne's priority pick would be about the best offer that Geelong could get in return for Prismall. I just couldn't see a side trading their 1st round pick this year. Maybe Sydney or Collingwood, but you wouldn't think so.

 

[Carnthe]

What the ____ makes you think he isn't going to get any better!? Look at Bartel and Ablett after they had played 17 games, you wouldn't have thought they would turn into the guns they are today.

This is the second time i have read a post claiming "Prismall has peaked"; i wasn't aware you could determine when a player is at the "top of their powers" after only a handful of games... silly me.

It is all about supply and demand though and I reckon there will be quite a few options in the draft that would be of an equal or less risk than Prismall.

 

[themuddy#3]

im not saying he has peaked!! ffs im sick of getting rubbished for defending /pumping up pris now im getting slagged for bagging him

im just saying it is unlikly that pris will get any better playing in the ____ing vfl, and he is at the stage of his career where he is no longer a project player, doesnt matter if he gets 40 possies a week in the magoos, kelly will never be dropped for him! and im not calling for kelly's head, just stating the bleeding obvious.

prismall is bloody good as it is and i would be bloody happy to see him get a regular game on this form. but i do think pris has another gear that will only come to light with more experience at the top level, but he will never get there playing 2nds and it looks like he will be doing that for a while to come.

 

[themuddy#3]

What the ____ makes you think he isn't going to get any better!? Look at Bartel and Ablett after they had played 17 games, you wouldn't have thought they would turn into the guns they are today.

This is the second time i have read a post claiming "Prismall has peaked"; i wasn't aware you could determine when a player is at the "top of their powers" after only a handful of games... silly me.

i had jimmyb marked down for a brownlow from game one

 

[davey_magik]

I would give you our pick after pick 18 so a mid 30s pick, I would never give pick 17 or 18 for him. As highly as he might be rated I wouldn't give a top 20 pick for a guy who doesn't even play consistent AFL footy.