Treatment versus Vaccine

[burge13]

I never said that. I said burge was selfish. Very specific.



Like me? I was never 'fearful' of anything. I simply understand statistics and have the ability to listen to relevant experts. COVID was serious. Millions died. Science won. Now we get to move forward once again.



Given your posting, that's highly unlikely.



You're the one seeing oppression at every corner, mostly because like burge, you appear to be very selfish. You talk about other groups to try to hide it, but it's pretty obvious from your posting you have little care for them in reality.

Where have all the concerns for mental illness gone? All the concerns for children's rights? All the concerns for the poor people in housing commission?

All these were causes championed by the 'my freedoms' cohort that have suddenly vanished from their consciousness, because it no longer suits their self-serving goals.

Find a hobby. Itll do you a world of good.

 

[MarcMaverick]

I never said that. I said burge was selfish. Very specific.

Moving on from COVID isn't selfish. Anchoring people to be as fearful of it, as you still are, is

Like me? I was never 'fearful' of anything. I simply understand statistics and have the ability to listen to relevant experts. COVID was serious. Millions died. Science won. Now we get to move forward once again.

You're still posting as if it was 2020. You are the one still afraid to let it go. The only stream of science that had won was one that was funded by the Govt to skew perspective to where the money flowed and any disenting voice(s) was censured/ cancelled including other science that tried to contradict the mainstream.

Given your posting, that's highly unlikely.

Last I checked disagreeing with someones point of view did not equal to out and out dislike.

You're the one seeing oppression at every corner, mostly because like burge, you appear to be very selfish. You talk about other groups to try to hide it, but it's pretty obvious from your posting you have little care for them in reality.

Where have all the concerns for mental illness gone? All the concerns for children's rights? All the concerns for the poor people in housing commission?

All these were causes championed by the 'my freedoms' cohort that have suddenly vanished from their consciousness, because it no longer suits their self-serving goals.

I am not the one that wanted every home to be welded shut. I had to play along because you were and still are fearful. Only diference is that I have moved on and you are still stuck like it's 2020. It's pretty obvious that until people are still as fearful of COVID like you they are considered selfish. You may think of me as "selfish" but if you have seen in the news those same "selfish" people had to put life-saving procedures thus creating a severe backlog because people like you were scared.

The concerns for mental illnesses were still there just that it was silenced and drowned out from people like you afraid of COVID. The never left and in fact have amplified. Just look at how many kids are going to need a pyschologist that didn't need it but because there was no respite the will now need them almost indefinitely.

 

[MarcMaverick]

Find a hobby. Itll do you a world of good.

Or adopt a kitten/puppy.

 

[owen87]

Moving on from COVID isn't selfish

Who said it was? Behaving selfishly is selfish. Like burge does.

The only stream of science that had won was one that was funded by the Govt to skew perspective to where the money flowed and any disenting voice(s) was censured/ cancelled including other science that tried to contradict the mainstream.

This is false.

Last I checked disagreeing with someones point of view did not equal to out and out dislike.

You said you used to be 'like' me. Disliking or liking me is irrelevant to that. You weren't.

I am not the one that wanted every home to be welded shut

Nor was I.

I had to play along because you were and still are fearful.

Incorrect.

Only diference is that I have moved on and you are still stuck like it's 2020

Incorrect.

It's pretty obvious that until people are still as fearful of COVID like you they are considered selfish.

Incorrect.

those same "selfish" people had to put life-saving procedures thus creating a severe backlog because people like you were scared.

This is also false.

The concerns for mental illnesses were still there just that it was silenced and drowned out from people like you afraid of COVID

Incorrect.

Just look at how many kids are going to need a pyschologist that didn't need it but because there was no respite the will now need them almost indefinitely

Oh look, here's you are pretending you care about kids' mental health all of a sudden again.

 

[owen87]

Find a hobby. Itll do you a world of good.

I have a number actually, yours appears to be complaining.

 

[adogsfan5]

Who said it was? Behaving selfishly is selfish. Like burge does.



This is false.



You said you used to be 'like' me. Disliking or liking me is irrelevant to that. You weren't.



Nor was I.



Incorrect.



Incorrect.



Incorrect.



This is also false.



Incorrect.



Oh look, here's you are pretending you care about kids' mental health all of a sudden again.

Owen, how do you differentiate between the two groups?

Group 1 being pretending to care, and Group 2, does care about kids mental health?

 

[owen87]

Group 1 being pretending to care, and Group 2, does care about kids mental health?

Those who pretend to care only did so for a small window of time when kids mental health was a convenient argument that suited the outcome they wanted.

They didn't care before that time, or after that time.

Pretty easy to work out who they were.

 

[MarcMaverick]

Who said it was? Behaving selfishly is selfish. Like burge does.



This is false.



You said you used to be 'like' me. Disliking or liking me is irrelevant to that. You weren't.



Nor was I.



Incorrect.



Incorrect.



Incorrect.



This is also false.



Incorrect.

I was correct on all counts. Admit that you are and were wrong.

Oh look, here's you are pretending you care about kids' mental health all of a sudden again.

You'd make a fine parent with that attitude.

I don't "pretend" to care. I just do. Prove me otherwise.

Go, adopt a kitten/puppy from a local shelter. It's a lot more rewarding than whatever it is you're doing now.

 

[owen87]

I was correct on all counts. Admit that you are and were wrong.

Nope

The only stream of science that had won was one that was funded by the Govt to skew perspective to where the money flowed and any disenting voice(s) was censured/ cancelled including other science that tried to contradict the mainstream.

This is a lie.

 

[burge13]

I have a number actually, yours appears to be complaining.

Lol. Look at your replies and mine. This is such a dumb reply. Move on, the world has. Join us not being scared of a cold

 

[owen87]

Join us not being scared of a cold

I’d rather not join the anti-science crowd thanks, I enjoy modern society.

 

[Northalives]

What is it you think I'm saying?

Here's the conversation chain;









So you've got one person - Northalives - wishing people well, hoping no one gets a bad case of it. Then another - burge13 - being a dick and downplaying the severity of it completely despite a number of people getting genuinely sick from it even now that we're highly vaccinated and dealing with a mutated down variant.

Well you know, "the hypnotised never lie" as Roger Daltrey sang.

 

[Lebbo73]

"We slow the progress of science today for all sorts of ethical reasons. Biomedicine could advance much faster if we abolished our rules on human experimentation in clinical trials, as Nazi researchers did."
Paul Nitze

 

[MisterMarcus]

Owen, how do you differentiate between the two groups?

Group 1 being pretending to care, and Group 2, does care about kids mental health?

I would differentiate by saying that the group who openly ridiculed children who died of covid complications (by claiming they were all fat or had existing health problems so * them) were the Group 1 "pretending to care". That was the anti-vaxxers.

 

[Lebbo73]

International Ivermectin Day July 23

 

[freddy mercury]

Still struggling to understand why people refuse to just move on with their lives and stop caring about worrying about what other people do and think.

Yes COVID is bad, but * me, if this is how society are going to live for the foreseeable future, * me it's gonna suck.

Move on, wear a piece of fabric over your face if you want, if you don't want to, good, go nuts. I see it everyday people scared to go near other people, refuse to take ******* cash still for * sake, the world has gone mad. People are literally afraid of ******* cash.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Still struggling to understand why people refuse to just move on with their lives and stop caring about worrying about what other people do and think.

Yes COVID is bad, but * me, if this is how society are going to live for the foreseeable future, * me it's gonna suck.

Move on, wear a piece of fabric over your face if you want, if you don't want to, good, go nuts. I see it everyday people scared to go near other people, refuse to take ******* cash still for * sake, the world has gone mad. People are literally afraid of ******* cash.

I would have thought you would be a little more open minded and understanding given the effect Covid had on you personally? Not a criticism but just curious. If I try and put myself in your position, I feel it would be a hell of a wake up call for me.

 

[fs88]

I would have thought you would be a little more open minded and understanding given the effect Covid had on you personally? Not a criticism but just curious. If I try and put myself in your position, I feel it would be a hell of a wake up call for me.

Because it didn't affect him adversely so it's no big deal. If he gave it to his parents who would then die from it, I'm sure his whole mindset would change. Unless he doesn't like his parents lol.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Oh well...

Finally, we have closure on that horse drug ‘COVID cure’, ivermectin. Well, sort of

Two highly reputable studies show once and for all that ivermectin has no effect on COVID-19 – but that doesn’t mean we’ve heard the last of it.

www.theage.com.au

 

[owen87]

Oh well...

Finally, we have closure on that horse drug ‘COVID cure’, ivermectin. Well, sort of

Two highly reputable studies show once and for all that ivermectin has no effect on COVID-19 – but that doesn’t mean we’ve heard the last of it.

www.theage.com.au

I'm sure the usual suspects will be demanding it be rolled out for flu season now.

Meanwhile, America’s Frontline Critical Care Alliance, a group of influential and well-funded doctors who have done much to push the drug, are expanding on its potential. They now promote it to treat RSV (respiratory syncytial virus) and the flu!

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Why are they testing a horse drug on humans?

Because some idiots on the webs at the start of the pandemic claimed it killed covid because some idiot farmer jabbed himself instead of his horse

 

[radiojake]

so I ain't an anti-vax or covid denier or anything like that - I don't pretend to know anything about ivermectin's benefit/lack of benefit when it comes to covid, but one thing I don't quite understand is the insistent reference to ivermectin as a horse drug when it has been used on humans for years for lots of different things

It may be useless against Covid, but it is dishonest to keep brushing away any talk of it as a 'horse drug' when there has been many human applications for it -

to instantly dismiss it as only a horse drug is only gonna make the nuffie/consipiracy folks double down harder because that genuinely isn't the truth

 

[MisterMarcus]

There's been a lot of talk about disinformation. Governments and the mainstream media have been some of the biggest pedlars of it. Do you remember all the politicians and health officers saying that if you got vaxxed then you couldn't get Covid or transmit it to others? The FDA referred to Ivermectin as a horse drug and here we have the Age still doing it. There are many drugs that are used on both humans and horses such as Erythromycin, Aspirin and Ketamine - because we share similar biologies - but it would be ridiculous to refer to them as horse drugs.

Using approved drugs for 'off-label' use is very common. For example, Viagra is approved for treating erectile dysfunction but it has been used to treat serious heart conditions. Ozempic has been approved for treating type 2 diabetes but it is commonly being prescribed to counter obesity.

Decisions on prescribing drugs for off-label purposes are usually left to individual doctors, with sometimes requests not to over prescribe if there are supply issues. But despite Ivermectin being cheap, commonly available, and having a long history of being safe it was prohibited by governments for any off-label use.

Let's not go the c word. But the disinformation campaign and the top down bans on Ivermectin needs some explanation.

Nope. Can you provide some links to where they specifically said that?

I remember lots of anti-vaxxers claiming that's what health officials said, though.

 

[ParapMarkets]

Nope. Can you provide some links to where they specifically said that?

I remember lots of anti-vaxxers claiming that's what health officials said, though.

Of course they said that.

 

[TheEscapeClub]

Of course they said that.

Any from here?