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Did anyone hear these comments ( as reported to me by someone who listened )

They were in the vein of '' we wont play anyone who is not committed to the AFC because we dont want a Fergus Watts scenario''
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I think the 'somone' misinterpreted what Trigg said almost 100%.

McDermott raised the issue about the delisting of Matthew Clarke and asked if, in hindsight with Maric/Meesen going down injured, the club would have made a different decision. McDermott's logic was along the lines of the premiership window closing, Biglands injury, this may be our last opportunity, what a great tap ruckman he was etc.

Trigg said that he and the club stands by the decision and would happily make it again. He said the danger of keeping a player like Clarke on the list is that you might end up with another Fergus Watts situation, where a young player simply does not get any opportunities at senior level and the years you have invested in them are wasted. He highlighted the fact that if Clarke had remained on the list then we wouldn't have discovered what a talent we have in Jonathan Griffin.
 
Punchy Bassett said:
PS If say Meese does go back to Melbourne and we manage to get a first rounder for him, I would only give up our two first rounders for him. No players at all included in that either.
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Would think Freo want more though - like any early 1st round pick. Assuming Hentschel come back into the side, where does that leave the likes of Kenny?
 
Punchy Bassett said:
:confused: So you would give up two players who look like they have the potential to be ten year players for us? And if Rutten was to go down who would take the mantle of full back?
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And you know for a fact that VB and Griffin will be part of the package?!

Ever heard of negotiating? Year two teams start in dream world asking for the impossible and slowly give in until they meet somewhere in the middle. Somewhere REALISTIC.

And why would we need a replacement FB when we have arguably the best FB in the competition and lack in other areas. If injuries happen thats why you have other KPPs on the list who can hold the spot until he comes back. Lets not forget that we made the prelim final with Bassett as our FB and McGregor at CHB. Nowdays we are much better off in KPP stocks than back then. No reason why McGregor and Bock in key defensive jobs can't work when needed.

In the forward line, there are MUCH MUCH bigger headaches than in defence. I don't know, smart strategy would be to address you biggest weaknesses before you go on further strengthening what is already your strength ;)

Back to the Jarman trade, are you saying that trade wasn't worth it because we gave away a 200 game player and 2 or 3 picks? :eek:
 

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Kane McGoodwin said:
Would think Freo want more though - like any early 1st round pick. Assuming Hentschel come back into the side, where does that leave the likes of Kenny?
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OK I am running late so definitely last post for a while, we really cannot be gambling on Trent's return there is no guarantees he will be anything like the player he was before the injury unfortunately. I would keep Kenny.
 
Punchy Bassett said:
Trust me I get that, what would you be prepared to give up for Pavlich then?
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We will have to give up quality no doubt, but I agree we can't afford to be ripped off like the Carey trade too.
 
Punchy Bassett said:
PS If say Meese does go back to Melbourne and we manage to get a first rounder for him, I would only give up our two first rounders for him. No players at all included in that either.
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See this is the low ass offer where you are resigned to the fact that you don't want him and you are not willing to give market value for an elite player.

Its like going into a BMW show room with a $10,000 check and asking for a top of the range X5. You know you won't get it up just do it for the fun.

Pavlich will be worth more than Meesen and our 1st pick and rightly so.
 
Stiffy_18 said:
And you know for a fact that VB and Griffin will be part of the package?!

Ever heard of negotiating? Year two teams start in dream world asking for the impossible and slowly give in until they meet somewhere in the middle. Somewhere REALISTIC.

And why would we need a replacement FB when we have arguably the best FB in the competition and lack in other areas. If injuries happen thats why you have other KPPs on the list who can hold the spot until he comes back. Lets not forget that we made the prelim final with Bassett as our FB and McGregor at CHB. Nowdays we are much better off in KPP stocks than back then. No reason why McGregor and Bock in key defensive jobs can't work when needed.

In the forward line, there are MUCH MUCH bigger headaches than in defence. I don't know, smart strategy would be to address you biggest weaknesses before you go on further strengthening what is already your strength ;)

Back to the Jarman trade, are you saying that trade wasn't worth it because we gave away a 200 game player and 2 or 3 picks? :eek:
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Yeah sure thats exactly what I said :rolleyes: I was saying if you want quality you need to give quality. Do you really think Freo are going to be reasonable about it when it comes to trading Pavlich? I want Pavlich I just don't want us to do anything stupid to get him.
 
Stiffy_18 said:
See this is the low ass offer where you are resigned to the fact that you don't want him and you are not willing to give market value for an elite player.

Its like going into a BMW show room with a $10,000 check and asking for a top of the range X5. You know you won't get it up just do it for the fun.

Pavlich will be worth more than Meesen and our 1st pick and rightly so.
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Again you didn't read what I said, I said if we get a first rounder for Meesen then we give our two first round draft picks for Pav. What would you offer then Stiffy?
 
Punchy Bassett said:
Again you didn't read what I said, I said if we get a first rounder for Meesen then we give our two first round draft picks for Pav. What would you offer then Stiffy?
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He would be worth 2 first rounders (preferably one in the top 5-10) and a good player that would be in Freos best 22. Thats what I think Pavlich could be had for.
 
WARNING: Just speculation, don't get your knickers in a knot if I tread on anyone's toes here.

Meesen to Melbourne/Richmond/Carlton for an early second round pick (say, 18 or 19).
Jericho to Melbourne/Richmond/Carlton for a third round pick.

Pavlich to Adelaide for our first round pick (say, 12 to 17), our traded second round pick, our traded thrid round pick, and Perrie.
 
pjcrows said:
WARNING: Just speculation, don't get your knickers in a knot if I tread on anyone's toes here.

Meesen to Melbourne/Richmond/Carlton for an early second round pick (say, 18 or 19).
Jericho to Melbourne/Richmond/Carlton for a third round pick.

Pavlich to Adelaide for our first round pick (say, 12 to 17), our traded second round pick, our traded thrid round pick, and Perrie.
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Freo would want quality not quantity.
 

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Kane McGoodwin said:
Freo would want quality not quantity.
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I don't think that Fremantle necessarily would want "gun" players. I reckon they'd go for the draft picks. Their problem isn't lack of great players - they have a fantastic team of players, they just don't click on match day this year.

I honestly think that if we threw 3 picks between 15 and 35 at them, plus Perrie, then they would very seriously consider it.

The thing we have to think about here is what Pavlich wants to do - if he wants to play for the Crows, then he will. Fremantle can't really do too much about it (refer to Stenglein, Kane Johnson etc., and Jarman coming home). If they realise that keeping him at Fremantle is a lost cause, then they get whatever they can for him.

If the Crows are smart, I think 3 picks and a player will do it. Whether Pav actually wants to leave his club and captaincy is another story.
 
A. It was worth every penny to get Jarman!! How would have the grandfinals turned out with out Jarman playing?

B. I do want Pavlich and he'd be Sensational BUT I do not want to give up VB and Griff or any other solid up and commer!

C. I don't mind If we don't get Pav BUT if he goes to Port I'll be extremly pissed

so D. Freo are either Stupid and give us pavlich for not much ( which is unlikely cos Port would want him too!) or he stays at Freo
 
ams4crows said:
A. It was worth every penny to get Jarman!! How would have the grandfinals turned out with out Jarman playing?

B. I do want Pavlich and he'd be Sensational BUT I do not want to give up VB and Griff or any other solid up and commer!

C. I don't mind If we don't get Pav BUT if he goes to Port I'll be extremly pissed

so D. Freo are either Stupid and give us pavlich for not much ( which is unlikely cos Port would want him too!) or he stays at Freo
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Griffin or Van Berlo won't be given up. They both still have more than 10 years worth of quality service for the club.
 
Stiffy_18 said:
And you know for a fact that VB and Griffin will be part of the package?!

Ever heard of negotiating? Year two teams start in dream world asking for the impossible and slowly give in until they meet somewhere in the middle. Somewhere REALISTIC.

And why would we need a replacement FB when we have arguably the best FB in the competition and lack in other areas. If injuries happen thats why you have other KPPs on the list who can hold the spot until he comes back. Lets not forget that we made the prelim final with Bassett as our FB and McGregor at CHB. Nowdays we are much better off in KPP stocks than back then. No reason why McGregor and Bock in key defensive jobs can't work when needed.

In the forward line, there are MUCH MUCH bigger headaches than in defence. I don't know, smart strategy would be to address you biggest weaknesses before you go on further strengthening what is already your strength ;)

Back to the Jarman trade, are you saying that trade wasn't worth it because we gave away a 200 game player and 2 or 3 picks? :eek:
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Would you trade VB, Griffen and our 1st round pick for Pavlich?
 
I all honesty if we were to get Pav it would mean finding a home for Meesen in return for a good draft pick. Sending our pick 1, traded pick for Meese and possibly Griff or VB to Freo for Pavlich. A lot of it will come down to what Freo would be prepared to accept as it is possible that trading away Pavlich could mean closing their window of opportunity.

If Pav decides that he does want to come home to SA, I have more confidence in the Crows being able to come up with a more attractive trade offer than Port, Port have always appeared to me to be cheap traders
 
SpringChoke said:
Would you trade VB, Griffen and our 1st round pick for Pavlich?
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Well what would you do if Meese wanted to go back to Melbourne so we traded meese because we had to and Freo say well if you give us your first pick and the pick for Meese and VB you can have Pav.

Would you ???
 

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Carl Spackler said:
I think the 'somone' misinterpreted what Trigg said almost 100%.

McDermott raised the issue about the delisting of Matthew Clarke and asked if, in hindsight with Maric/Meesen going down injured, the club would have made a different decision. McDermott's logic was along the lines of the premiership window closing, Biglands injury, this may be our last opportunity, what a great tap ruckman he was etc.

Trigg said that he and the club stands by the decision and would happily make it again. He said the danger of keeping a player like Clarke on the list is that you might end up with another Fergus Watts situation, where a young player simply does not get any opportunities at senior level and the years you have invested in them are wasted. He highlighted the fact that if Clarke had remained on the list then we wouldn't have discovered what a talent we have in Jonathan Griffin.
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Cheers.
 
PJCrows is correct

Its now Freos time to go the draft , they have a core of players who are ready now, what they are short of is those new draft picks which will be ready in 3-4 years time as this crop fades away
 
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Well what would you do if Meese wanted to go back to Melbourne so we traded meese because we had to and Freo say well if you give us your first pick and the pick for Meese and VB you can have Pav.

Would you ???
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After showing little in the SANFL, we wouldn't get back pick 8. So let's say we get a 1st rounder between 11-16. So we effectively trade 2 x picks between 11-16 and VB. I would seriously consider it. However, I wouldn't trade 2 players ( VB and Griffen ) and pick 11-16 for him. Only becuase Goody, Edwards, Roo, Macca only have one, possibly two years left in them. If the 4 I mentioned still had at least 3-4 years of top footy left in them, then I would do the VB. GRiff and a 1st rounder trade in a heartbeat.
 
- PC - said:
PJCrows is correct

Its now Freos time to go the draft , they have a core of players who are ready now, what they are short of is those new draft picks which will be ready in 3-4 years time as this crop fades away
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If they have a core group in their prime now, wouldn't they want player(s) for player?
 

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