Trump - Harris Presidential Election 2024

[Black_White]

Are you seriously suggesting that because my skin is white I won't feel humiliated if I am publicly mocked/ belittled/denigrated for my appearance? What do you mean white males will sail along without an issue? If that's the case why do they kill themselves at four times the rate of women? What issues are they not sailing by without an issue?

We are individuals. Are you suggesting white boys and men don't care about being mocked, bullied or ignored? Are you really saying such treatment has no effect upon them because they are white? Do you have children? Would you tell your son he has no right to feel upset if he is bullied at school because he is white?

As soon as someone uses that word I disregard anything they have to say. What a disgrace. To suggest any demographic is privileged due to the colour of their skin, their genitals or any other immutable characteristic is nothing less than appalling bigotry. I don't care what colour you are. It's funny how often those who rant about racism and sexism are often the people most obsessed with colour and gender.

Your ignorance is astounding. Can you explain to me why men in Western nations receive a 63% longer jail term than women who commit the same crime? The gender prisons sentencing gap is far larger between mean nd women than it is between black and white people.

Study Finds Huge Gap Between How Long Men And Women Spend In Prison

Study Finds Huge Gap Between How Long Men And Women Spend In Prison

www.huffpost.com

If white men are so privileged why are the majority of the suicide demographic? Men kill themselves at four times the rate of women. In what twisted world does the privileged demographic kill themselves at nearly four times the rate of the oppressed?

The men’s mental health crisis Australia can no longer ignore

TODAY in Australia, six men will take their own lives.

www.news.com.au

In what world would 75% of the homeless living rough on the streets be males-the privileged gender (and again mostly white).

In what upside down world would the oppressed be graduating from university at a much higher rate then the privileged?

Higher education enrolments and graduate labour market statistics | WGEA

www.wgea.gov.au

Then these women choose to go into occupations which they are attracted to rather than STEM careers and this is somehow twisted into being the fault of the patriarchy. It is hilarious. They have lowered entry scores for women to try to tempt them into entering STEM courses and their enrolments remain low because most women have no interest in engineering and computer focused occupations. Women dominate veterinary courses. Is this sexist?

Women get four times the health funding that men receive even though men die earlier. How is it possible for the privileged to receive less funding for their health care?

The gender gap that’s killing men

A SPECTACULAR gender gap has resulted in men's health problems being allocated a quarter of the funding women's health research gets, ranked just ahead of parasitic infections.

www.news.com.au

Trust me- I could go on and on. I find talk of white male privilege to be an utter joke.

Yes-I have gone off topic. Ignorance has that affect on me.

Of course you do. That’s why your a privileged white male.
Only those would get so affronted when the truth is pointed out to the .
“WHATABOUTME” is the catchcry. And you know it well.

 

[Maggie5]

Yes-I have gone off topic. Ignorance has that affect on me.

Way off topic and none addressed white privileged.

Let's see how the game plays out. I thought Barr was a Trump lackey and I recall you shaming him with a reference to his body shape. Now he is the great authority whose words you post with glee! What Obama and Biden have done is without parallel in political history in America. Barr also said they may well have abused their power but not all abuse of power is a criminal offence. You completely ignore what these crooks have done and try to pretend the whole idea of Obama's disgraceful misuse of the FBI and CIA is an invention. Stay tuned.

Game over!
Love they way you twist things around. Posted Barr because he is your go to authority and he is still Trump's lackey but when you got nothing, that is all he could say.
lol Abuse of power? Trump does it every day, yet you are silent. Give me a break!!!!!

 

[domus]

LOL come on Domus. Give it up. Still waiting for your comments on this?

I watched the first 55 seconds and already wished I was sitting opposite that hack. The Mueller investigation was fraudulent. It has already been exposed as that. Mueller already knew before the investigation was launched that there was zero evidence of any collusion. If what this moron is saying is true and it was all so run of the mill for Obama to be involved in the bugging of Flynn's phone calls then why did his deputy attorney general say (under oath) that she was so shocked by the fact that Obama knew all of the details of the Flynn phone call before she did that she literally couldn't focus on the discussion which followed?

Sally Yates learned of Flynn targeting from Obama as Comey kept her in the dark, declassified documents show

Newly released documents indicate former FBI Director James Comey kept his superior at the Justice Department in the dark about the bureau's investigation

www.washingtonexaminer.com

I cannot believe your posts on this issue. You continually claim to be a disinterested, ambivalent spectator as far as American politics is concerned. A person who has no strong leanings but just respects good leadership and respectful behavior. Yet you have continually ignored the disgraceful lies and corruption which has been exposed by the release of these transcripts which were spoken under oath. Every leading accuser of Trump who said they had strong evidence that he colluded with Russia were deliberately lying. But they spoke the truth in secret under oath. So you seem to be playing semantics now. You don't mind cold blooded liars, be they politicians or journalists, so long as it isn't technically a crime or they don't have orange skin, it's all fine by you. Has there been one apology from CNN, MSNBC, CBS or many other left wing outlets who said Trump was a traitor to his country and Putin's puppet? Not one.

This is just another partisan covering for his overlords.

 

[domus]

Of course you do. That’s why your a privileged white male.
Only those would get so affronted when the truth is pointed out to the .
“WHATABOUTME” is the catchcry. And you know it well.

You have actually made me feel sick in my guts with your moronic post. How the hell is pointing out cold facts about the state of men's lives after you said white men were privileged, "whataboutism?" So you can make any statement you like and simply call any response which exposes it as utter rubbish "whataboutism?" How convenient.

You don't even have the guts to demonstrate how it is possible for the privileged demographic to be dying earlier, suiciding at a far higher rate, receiving far less funding for their needs, making up three quarters of the homeless on our streets, 95% of those killed at work, receiving 63% longer jail terms for the same crime and be graduating from university at a far lower rate.

Well?

I assume because you are white you have never felt bullied, humiliated, broken hearted , lonely, depressed or ignored. White skin prevents all of these human experiences from being felt? Bloody unbelievable.

You have the nerve to call your disgusting statement "the truth'? You have one sick view of the world.

 

[domus]

Way off topic and none addressed white privileged.


Game over!
Love they way you twist things around. Posted Barr because he is your go to authority and he is still Trump's lackey but when you got nothing, that is all he could say.
lol Abuse of power? Trump does it every day, yet you are silent. Give me a break!!!!!

View attachment 877940
View attachment 877941

What do you mean none addressed white privilege? I was informed that white men are never hurt or humiliated by body shaming and other low blows because they have white skin. Do you concur? And if you believe in such a concept then why only white men? It's hilarious how women somehow see themselves as part of the oppressed.

No silly memes. Facts please. How has Don Jnr profited through Trump's presidency? How in fact, is it corrupt to appoint people you know (with the experience or talent required) to a position in the Whitehouse? It's not as though Trump appointed his son to an energy board when he had zero experience in energy and yet received millions for his expert advice.

You are not honest, Maggie. I make no pretense about being a Trump supporter and a conservative (now) supporter. You pretend to occupy some moral high ground of neutrality.

When and if members of Obama's CIA and FBI are charged we will see how that affects the phony liar's legacy.

 

[Maggie5]

What do you mean none addressed white privilege? I was informed that white men are never hurt or humiliated by body shaming and other low blows because they have white skin.

No you weren't that is the way you took it.

White privilege - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

No silly memes. Facts please. How has Don Jnr profited through Trump's presidency? How in fact, is it corrupt to appoint people you know (with the experience or talent required) to a position in the Whitehouse? It's not as though Trump appointed his son to an energy board when he had zero experience in energy and yet received millions for his expert advice.

You are not honest, Maggie. I make no pretense about being a Trump supporter and a conservative (now) supporter. You pretend to occupy some moral high ground of neutrality.

Show me how they are/were qualified and weren't given their positions because of parents.

It's not as though Trump appointed his son to an energy board when he had zero experience in energy and yet received millions for his expert advice.

Fake news - give it up. Prove to me that Biden was involved in his son gaining that position. (see how easy it is) One group fair and square, this one but his father.

You pretend to occupy some moral high ground of neutrality.

And I am most comfortable taking that position but don't see how it is neutral, thought I have been clearer than that.

When and if members of Obama's CIA and FBI are charged we will see how that affects the phony liar's legacy.

Never happen but dream on.

I actually am waiting for Trump's tax returns and charges when he is no longer President.

Don't even care if it is after another four years but it will come unless he dies first.

 

[magpie_marty]

What do you mean none addressed white privilege? I was informed that white men are never hurt or humiliated by body shaming and other low blows because they have white skin. Do you concur? And if you believe in such a concept then why only white men? It's hilarious how women somehow see themselves as part of the oppressed.

No silly memes. Facts please. How has Don Jnr profited through Trump's presidency? How in fact, is it corrupt to appoint people you know (with the experience or talent required) to a position in the Whitehouse? It's not as though Trump appointed his son to an energy board when he had zero experience in energy and yet received millions for his expert advice.

You are not honest, Maggie. I make no pretense about being a Trump supporter and a conservative (now) supporter. You pretend to occupy some moral high ground of neutrality.

When and if members of Obama's CIA and FBI are charged we will see how that affects the phony liar's legacy.

Lmao how much has Kushner and his wife made?
Jarrod is the head on what the border wall,Covid-19 and delivery of PPE,Middle east plans,
Hey god bless him Domus his doing this for free and with years of experience.


Well both of Trumps sons have made a profit as has Trump,
Think of the golf vacations and money payed via the secret service at a cost to the (American Tax Payer)
Now where does that money go the $$$$$ Straight into Trumps pocket.

Mar-a-Lago is that a private residence or a resort?
More reading for you and Florida voting rules.

But Trump works for free!
Pick me up and call me dusted that's a joke.

 

[Markfs]

Study Finds Huge Gap Between How Long Men And Women Spend In Prison

Study Finds Huge Gap Between How Long Men And Women Spend In Prison

www.huffpost.com

If white men are so privileged why are the majority of the suicide demographic? Men kill themselves at four times the rate of women. In what twisted world does the privileged demographic kill themselves at nearly four times the rate of the oppressed?

The men’s mental health crisis Australia can no longer ignore

TODAY in Australia, six men will take their own lives.

www.news.com.au

Women get four times the health funding that men receive even though men die earlier. How is it possible for the privileged to receive less funding for their health care?

The gender gap that’s killing men

A SPECTACULAR gender gap has resulted in men's health problems being allocated a quarter of the funding women's health research gets, ranked just ahead of parasitic infections.

www.news.com.au

Trust me- I could go on and on. I find talk of white male privilege to be an utter joke.

Yes-I have gone off topic. Ignorance has that affect on me.

Ignorance probably stimulates you to quote articles and then not to read them.... or probably more accurately interpret them through the prism of your new enlightened conservative framework.

The article about suicide "“When you look at the suicide rates for women, they peak in the late teens.....
but with men "“They steadily climb from the mid to late 20s and peak in the early 50s. They drop off and flat line from there, up until men reach their 80s when they increase again.”

So clearly men are being bullied ferociously when they're 80. I would suggest those men's shed thingys in local neighbourhoods.

About health funding? Prostate Cancer Foundation chief Dr Anthony Lowe says "it is unexpected for men to find themselves in this position" and he says men's failure to seek healthcare for themselves is partly to blame.

Here's what your hero Alan Jones says. Mr Jones said he had many prominent CEOs and political figures who had told him of their private struggles with cancer but were terrified of the news going public because "they were worried the share price of their company would go down" or "they wouldn't be able to stand for a leadership position".

My personal opinion why women get more health funding is because they advocate for it.... they lobby politicians. Politicians know that they will get more women votes if they support women's health. Obviously health funding is not that important to men. They vote for arseholes like Trump.

I could go on but I'm getting bored.



Let me give you an opinion. You say that you were a leftie early and that you became conservative as you got more informed. You can go on kidding yourself if you like but the change was probably because you drifted into self-pity as you got older.

 

[magpie_marty]

You have actually made me feel sick in my guts with your moronic post. How the hell is pointing out cold facts about the state of men's lives after you said white men were privileged, "whataboutism?" So you can make any statement you like and simply call any response which exposes it as utter rubbish "whataboutism?" How convenient.

You don't even have the guts to demonstrate how it is possible for the privileged demographic to be dying earlier, suiciding at a far higher rate, receiving far less funding for their needs, making up three quarters of the homeless on our streets, 95% of those killed at work, receiving 63% longer jail terms for the same crime and be graduating from university at a far lower rate.

Well?

I assume because you are white you have never felt bullied, humiliated, broken hearted , lonely, depressed or ignored. White skin prevents all of these human experiences from being felt? Bloody unbelievable.

You have the nerve to call your disgusting statement "the truth'? You have one sick view of the world.

Simple ?
The USA leads the way in death tolls so far and it's been what 3 months in the world and that's a sheer fact.
Domus do you think the pressure Trump has put on the states will help as in slow the rate of death or increase it?
Or you may decline and say well Trump takes no responsibility mode which will be out absurd.

 

[HeathySure]

I watched the first 55 seconds and already wished I was sitting opposite that hack. The Mueller investigation was fraudulent. It has already been exposed as that. Mueller already knew before the investigation was launched that there was zero evidence of any collusion. If what this moron is saying is true and it was all so run of the mill for Obama to be involved in the bugging of Flynn's phone calls then why did his deputy attorney general say (under oath) that she was so shocked by the fact that Obama knew all of the details of the Flynn phone call before she did that she literally couldn't focus on the discussion which followed?

Sally Yates learned of Flynn targeting from Obama as Comey kept her in the dark, declassified documents show

Newly released documents indicate former FBI Director James Comey kept his superior at the Justice Department in the dark about the bureau's investigation

www.washingtonexaminer.com

I cannot believe your posts on this issue. You continually claim to be a disinterested, ambivalent spectator as far as American politics is concerned. A person who has no strong leanings but just respects good leadership and respectful behavior. Yet you have continually ignored the disgraceful lies and corruption which has been exposed by the release of these transcripts which were spoken under oath. Every leading accuser of Trump who said they had strong evidence that he colluded with Russia were deliberately lying. But they spoke the truth in secret under oath. So you seem to be playing semantics now. You don't mind cold blooded liars, be they politicians or journalists, so long as it isn't technically a crime or they don't have orange skin, it's all fine by you. Has there been one apology from CNN, MSNBC, CBS or many other left wing outlets who said Trump was a traitor to his country and Putin's puppet? Not one.

This is just another partisan covering for his overlords.

Sweet Deluded Domus,

you need to read all sides of the story. You won't beleive the Fox one so here is an explanation from CNN

“Obamagate”: Trump’s latest conspiracy theory, explained

What you get when Michael Flynn is back in the news and the president botches a pandemic response.

www.vox.com

 

[Black_White]

You have actually made me feel sick in my guts with your moronic post. How the hell is pointing out cold facts about the state of men's lives after you said white men were privileged, "whataboutism?" So you can make any statement you like and simply call any response which exposes it as utter rubbish "whataboutism?" How convenient.

You don't even have the guts to demonstrate how it is possible for the privileged demographic to be dying earlier, suiciding at a far higher rate, receiving far less funding for their needs, making up three quarters of the homeless on our streets, 95% of those killed at work, receiving 63% longer jail terms for the same crime and be graduating from university at a far lower rate.

Well?

I assume because you are white you have never felt bullied, humiliated, broken hearted , lonely, depressed or ignored. White skin prevents all of these human experiences from being felt? Bloody unbelievable.

You have the nerve to call your disgusting statement "the truth'? You have one sick view of the world.

I understood a long time ago that Trumpers only considered “what’s in it for me”.
Just like thsir hero.
Im more than comfortable to call you a “WHATABOUTME” Trumper.
Because every time you post you fulfil that label.

 

[Black_White]

'Crazy thing to do': Health experts alarmed by Trump's use of unproven drug

The treatment has no proven benefits for the coronavirus patients and can cause heart problems.

www.politico.com

I was thinking this was a good thing, because Apparently it can cause heart failure.
Then I remembered that’s a particular organ that Trump hasn’t got!

 

[Black_White]

Pretty spot on.

Trump shrinks the power of the US presidency

Donald Trump has inserted his ego squarely into the US response, while simultaneously minimising his own role.

www.theage.com.au

History will remember him as possibly the worst POTUS ever.

 

[domus]

Ignorance probably stimulates you to quote articles and then not to read them.... or probably more accurately interpret them through the prism of your new enlightened conservative framework.

The article about suicide "“When you look at the suicide rates for women, they peak in the late teens.....
but with men "“They steadily climb from the mid to late 20s and peak in the early 50s. They drop off and flat line from there, up until men reach their 80s when they increase again.”

So clearly men are being bullied ferociously when they're 80. I would suggest those men's shed thingys in local neighbourhoods.

About health funding? Prostate Cancer Foundation chief Dr Anthony Lowe says "it is unexpected for men to find themselves in this position" and he says men's failure to seek healthcare for themselves is partly to blame.

Here's what your hero Alan Jones says. Mr Jones said he had many prominent CEOs and political figures who had told him of their private struggles with cancer but were terrified of the news going public because "they were worried the share price of their company would go down" or "they wouldn't be able to stand for a leadership position".

My personal opinion why women get more health funding is because they advocate for it.... they lobby politicians. Politicians know that they will get more women votes if they support women's health. Obviously health funding is not that important to men. They vote for arseholes like Trump.

I could go on but I'm getting bored.



Let me give you an opinion. You say that you were a leftie early and that you became conservative as you got more informed. You can go on kidding yourself if you like but the change was probably because you drifted into self-pity as you got older.

I read it. The quote about suicide rates for female peaking in their teens refers to female suicide. According to the stats below this is incorrect. Male teenagers suicide at a higher rate as males do in in every age category. So what point were you trying to make?

Are you trying to suggest men don't kill themselves at over three times the rate of women? Do you dispute this fact? Your stance absolutely disgusts me.

If there were statistics which showed women were killing themselves at over three times the rate of men you would be holding that up as proof of the lack of value we place on their lives or how our society is clearly not catering to the mental health needs of women. But its men, so who gives a stuff. Oh, and feminists dare to speak of victim shaming. To think there are morons out there who blame men for their high suicide rate. If I were to say something horrendous like "women who stay in violent relationships only have themselves to blame", there would be a meltdown on this thread. Your double standards are a disgrace.

Let me get this straight. When gay or any LBGTQ people kill themselves it is presented as proof of their alienation and oppression in our society.
When Indigenous men kill themselves at a high rate it is again held as evidence of their ill treatment, sense of hopelessness and oppression.
When men as a demographic, particularly white men kill themselves in massive numbers (over 2000 men a year) we say it is in no way an indication that our society ignores their needs or that these men feel lost, hopeless and ignored.

We then suggest it is their own fault when they die from disease like cancer and heart disease for failing to seek help. Again, imagine blaming women who failed seek to seek help and subsequently died from cancer. It would never happen.

And women get four times the health funding because they ask for it? So the government has all the available statistics. The government knows men are dying earlier and dying from all of the leading killers in greater numbers than women but they decide they won't give a cent to the welfare of 50% of their constituency until they ask for it. Wow. If men ever did collectively gather and protest about the health funding inequity, people on this thread and society at large would call them whining wimps and deride them. Any time the issue of male victims of domestic violence is raised that is exactly what happens. Most people don't want to hear about men's problems. Do you think blokes don't pick up on that at an early age? But that's their fault-not society

What the hell was your snide remark about bullying supposed to mean? Where did I say bullying was a leading cause of male suicide?

Oh and those men Jones mentioned: did it ever cross your mind they were fearful of not being able to provide for their family or keep them in the lifestyle to which they had become accustomed? Why is every angle you take a dig or putdown of men. All I do is defend men and point out that their skin colour is irrelevant. I have never derided women or suggested they are somehow responsible for the issues which affect their quality of life.

And grow up. What the hell has who people vote for have to do with suicide and men's health?

No comment on the prison sentencing disparity, homelessness, workplace deaths or tertiary education? So privileged.

Here are some facts.

Suicide and age in Australia

• Overall, the age-specific suicide rate in 2018 was highest in men aged 85 or above (32.9 per 100,000), which has been the age group with the highest rate since 2011.
• For females, 2018 data showed that the highest age-specific suicide rate was observed in the 40-44 age group (9.4 per 100,000).
• Data shows that the largest age-specific increase was within males aged 45-54 years for 2018, with 431 deaths (age-specific rate 27.5 per 100,000) compared to 424 deaths (age-specific rate 27.2 per 100,000) in 2017.
• The largest age-specific increase for females was within the 35-44 years age group with 137 deaths (age-specific rate 8.3 per 100,000) in 2018 compared to 126 deaths (age-specific rate 7.7 per 100,000) in 2017.
• For males: The highest age-specific suicide rate in 2018 was observed in the 85+ age group (32.9 per 100,000). This rate was higher than the age-specific suicide rate observed in all other age groups, with the next highest age-specific suicide rates being in the 45-49 and 55-59 year age groups (28.1 and 27.6 per 100,000 respectively).
• For females: The highest age-specific suicide rate in 2018 was observed in the 80-84 age group (9.0 per 100,000), followed by the 35-39 and 40-44 age groups (7.2 and 9.4 per 100,000 respectively).

Sorry if this subject bores you.

 

[pinko77]

Simple ?
The USA leads the way in death tolls so far and it's been what 3 months in the world and that's a sheer fact.
Domus do you think the pressure Trump has put on the states will help as in slow the rate of death or increase it?
Or you may decline and say well Trump takes no responsibility mode which will be out absurd.

when new york hospitals send thousands of covid-19 patients to nursing homes during the peak of pandemic

 

[domus]

I understood a long time ago that Trumpers only considered “what’s in it for me”.
Just like thsir hero.
Im more than comfortable to call you a “WHATABOUTME” Trumper.
Because every time you post you fulfil that label.

Lord help me. That is your response to a number of specific facts which you clearly cannot refute?

 

[domus]

No you weren't that is the way you took it.

White privilege - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Show me how they are/were qualified and weren't given their positions because of parents.


Fake news - give it up. Prove to me that Biden was involved in his son gaining that position. (see how easy it is) One group fair and square, this one but his father.


And I am most comfortable taking that position but don't see how it is neutral, thought I have been clearer than that.


Never happen but dream on.

I actually am waiting for Trump's tax returns and charges when he is no longer President.

Don't even care if it is after another four years but it will come unless he dies first.

I just watch the complete statement from Barr and I am feeling rather bullish. Talk about taking a person out of context. Did you hear what he had to say about Trump's abhorrent treatment during his first term in office and the two tiers of justice-one for Trump and one for everyone else? Tick tock.

I was told the humiliation of white male politicians is of no consequence because white men are privileged. How did I misinterpret that or the follow up response? Is posting a Wikipedia link about white privilege supposed to give that toxic term some sort of credibility?

 

[sr36]

I read it. The quote about suicide rates for female peaking in their teens refers to female suicide. According to the stats below this is incorrect. Male teenagers suicide at a higher rate as males do in in every age category. So what point were you trying to make?

Are you trying to suggest men don't kill themselves at over three times the rate of women? Do you dispute this fact? Your stance absolutely disgusts me.

If there were statistics which showed women were killing themselves at over three times the rate of men you would be holding that up as proof of the lack of value we place on their lives or how our society is clearly not catering to the mental health needs of women. But its men, so who gives a stuff. Oh, and feminists dare to speak of victim shaming. To think there are morons out there who blame men for their high suicide rate. If I were to say something horrendous like "women who stay in violent relationships only have themselves to blame", there would be a meltdown on this thread. Your double standards are a disgrace.

Let me get this straight. When gay or any LBGTQ people kill themselves it is presented as proof of their alienation and oppression in our society.
When Indigenous men kill themselves at a high rate it is again held as evidence of their ill treatment, sense of hopelessness and oppression.
When men as a demographic, particularly white men kill themselves in massive numbers (over 2000 men a year) we say it is in no way an indication that our society ignores their needs or that these men feel lost, hopeless and ignored.

We then suggest it is their own fault when they die from disease like cancer and heart disease for failing to seek help. Again, imagine blaming women who failed seek to seek help and subsequently died from cancer. It would never happen.

And women get four times the health funding because they ask for it? So the government has all the available statistics. The government knows men are dying earlier and dying from all of the leading killers in greater numbers than women but they decide they won't give a cent to the welfare of 50% of their constituency until they ask for it. Wow. If men ever did collectively gather and protest about the health funding inequity, people on this thread and society at large would call them whining wimps and deride them. Any time the issue of male victims of domestic violence is raised that is exactly what happens. Most people don't want to hear about men's problems. Do you think blokes don't pick up on that at an early age? But that's their fault-not society

What the hell was your snide remark about bullying supposed to mean? Where did I say bullying was a leading cause of male suicide?

Oh and those men Jones mentioned: did it ever cross your mind they were fearful of not being able to provide for their family or keep them in the lifestyle to which they had become accustomed? Why is every angle you take a dig or putdown of men. All I do is defend men and point out that their skin colour is irrelevant. I have never derided women or suggested they are somehow responsible for the issues which affect their quality of life.

And grow up. What the hell has who people vote for have to do with suicide and men's health?

No comment on the prison sentencing disparity, homelessness, workplace deaths or tertiary education? So privileged.

Here are some facts.

Suicide and age in Australia

• Overall, the age-specific suicide rate in 2018 was highest in men aged 85 or above (32.9 per 100,000), which has been the age group with the highest rate since 2011.
• For females, 2018 data showed that the highest age-specific suicide rate was observed in the 40-44 age group (9.4 per 100,000).
• Data shows that the largest age-specific increase was within males aged 45-54 years for 2018, with 431 deaths (age-specific rate 27.5 per 100,000) compared to 424 deaths (age-specific rate 27.2 per 100,000) in 2017.
• The largest age-specific increase for females was within the 35-44 years age group with 137 deaths (age-specific rate 8.3 per 100,000) in 2018 compared to 126 deaths (age-specific rate 7.7 per 100,000) in 2017.
• For males: The highest age-specific suicide rate in 2018 was observed in the 85+ age group (32.9 per 100,000). This rate was higher than the age-specific suicide rate observed in all other age groups, with the next highest age-specific suicide rates being in the 45-49 and 55-59 year age groups (28.1 and 27.6 per 100,000 respectively).
• For females: The highest age-specific suicide rate in 2018 was observed in the 80-84 age group (9.0 per 100,000), followed by the 35-39 and 40-44 age groups (7.2 and 9.4 per 100,000 respectively).

Sorry if this subject bores you.

We're hopefully coming out of a period of defined gender roles and racial bias. During this period, white men have been given more opportunity to succeed economically and politically and more social freedom. I'm not sure how anyone can argue otherwise. The flip side of the extra opportunity to succeed has been extra pressure and extra opportunity to fail relative to their peers. The flip side of extra social freedom has been a lot of unhealthy past times. These flip sides have produced lower life expectancy and a higher suicide rate, but they don't detract from the indisputable fact that white men have been given extra opportunities to succeed.

 

[Markfs]

Your stance absolutely disgusts me.

I haven taken that as an example of outrageous bullying and I will be taking the required action in the next few days. My will is on the fridge.

I didn't read all your stuff mate. I'm figuring that you're getting a trained monkey to post for you..... probably like Trump is doing with his twitter.

However, your point that male suicide is multiple times more than female suicide because males get bullied is .......well it's obvious... as i said in my last post. The high rate in over 80s for men is because of those men's sheds. I told you that already. Too many old men going to men's sheds and getting bullied...or coming home late and then getting bullied by their housewives.

p.s its because of julia gillard's partner. He was the president of those sheds wasnt he? I never liked the guy.

 

[Markfs]

I just watch the complete statement from Barr and I am feeling rather bullish. Talk about taking a person out of context. Did you hear what he had to say about Trump's abhorrent treatment during his first term in office and the two tiers of justice-one for Trump and one for everyone else? Tick tock.

I was told the humiliation of white male politicians is of no consequence because white men are privileged. How did I misinterpret that or the follow up response? Is posting a Wikipedia link about white privilege supposed to give that toxic term some sort of credibility?

Domus mate. If you want to get hot under the collar read this about Nancy Pelosi calling Trump morbidly obese! Outrageous... She says that she fears for his life but she has probably driven him to an untimely death...

 

[Markfs]

My eyes drifted across your post and I saw this...

What the hell was your snide remark about bullying supposed to mean? Where did I say bullying was a leading cause of male suicide?

In your previous epistle, you wrote the following..

"Are you seriously suggesting that because my skin is white I won't feel humiliated if I am publicly mocked/ belittled/denigrated for my appearance? What do you mean white males will sail along without an issue? If that's the case why do they kill themselves at four times the rate of women? "


Master, I was blind and now I can see again...

 

[deltablues]

Simple ?
The USA leads the way in death tolls so far and it's been what 3 months in the world and that's a sheer fact.
Domus do you think the pressure Trump has put on the states will help as in slow the rate of death or increase it?
Or you may decline and say well Trump takes no responsibility mode which will be out absurd.

The USA is the third most populous country on the planet, so obviously the actual death rate reflects that.

Per capita is a more meaningful statistic, and the US is 9th, below Belgium, Spain, Italy, UK, France, Sweden, Netherlands and Ireland.

But as an aside, seeking to utilize a global pandemic such as Corona Virus as part of some petty political point scoring against Trump is distasteful - scraping the bottom of the barrel. It illustrates the relentless gutter-level standard of debate exhibited by many of the Trump haters here [and elsewhere, to be fair].

None of you here live in the States [as I do]; you get your information 2nd and 3rd hand from a media largely anti-Republican. Click-bait hyperbole. And now plenty of push back by the citizens and the courts Stateside.

No-one here addresses the real issues in play since Trump was elected (and indeed, well before he was elected), namely, the threat to the US Constitution, separation of powers and rule of law by an entrenched bureaucracy comprising the professional political class.

The Soviets had two apt words describing these grifters - apparatchiks, and nomenklatura. Nominally Republican and Democrat at election time, but otherwise two ears on the same hog.

Trump is, like that fine Texan before him, Ross Perot, the anti-politician. Not one of us. Not part of the club.

Hence the existential angst, anger and general discombobulation of the apparatchiks, nomenklatura and their sponsors and enablers when confronted by someone like Trump.

PS Trump is pushing back on the Chicoms. Any approval here? Any? Any at all?

Nope. Nothing. Goes against this thread's narrative, don'tcha know.

Maybe in due course y'all may find yourselves, in Australia, in a situation where Trump might not be so bad after all.

 

[Markfs]

The USA is the third most populous country on the planet, so obviously the actual death rate reflects that.

Per capita is a more meaningful statistic, and the US is 9th, below Belgium, Spain, Italy, UK, France, Sweden, Netherlands and Ireland.

But as an aside, seeking to utilize a global pandemic such as Corona Virus as part of some petty political point scoring against Trump is distasteful - scraping the bottom of the barrel. It illustrates the relentless gutter-level standard of debate exhibited by many of the Trump haters here [and elsewhere, to be fair].

None of you here live in the States [as I do]; you get your information 2nd and 3rd hand from a media largely anti-Republican. Click-bait hyperbole. And now plenty of push back by the citizens and the courts Stateside.

No-one here addresses the real issues in play since Trump was elected (and indeed, well before he was elected), namely, the threat to the US Constitution, separation of powers and rule of law by an entrenched bureaucracy comprising the professional political class.

The Soviets had two apt words describing these grifters - apparatchiks, and nomenklatura. Nominally Republican and Democrat at election time, but otherwise two ears on the same hog.

Trump is, like that fine Texan before him, Ross Perot, the anti-politician. Not one of us. Not part of the club.

Hence the existential angst, anger and general discombobulation of the apparatchiks, nomenklatura and their sponsors and enablers when confronted by someone like Trump.

PS Trump is pushing back on the Chicoms. Any approval here? Any? Any at all?

Nope. Nothing. Goes against this thread's narrative, don'tcha know.

Maybe in due course y'all may find yourselves, in Australia, in a situation where Trump might not be so bad after all.

I hope you haven't taken any offence about our little banter about trump. Everyone here loves America. Personally, I'm a big fan of where Trump is leading us. He's obviously told the local leadership to be more aggressive pushing back on the chicoms and i think they've done well. I hope you guys over there feel the same. My mother took care of the americans when they came over here to save us in World War 2.

 

[sr36]

The USA is the third most populous country on the planet, so obviously the actual death rate reflects that.

Per capita is a more meaningful statistic, and the US is 9th, below Belgium, Spain, Italy, UK, France, Sweden, Netherlands and Ireland.

But as an aside, seeking to utilize a global pandemic such as Corona Virus as part of some petty political point scoring against Trump is distasteful - scraping the bottom of the barrel. It illustrates the relentless gutter-level standard of debate exhibited by many of the Trump haters here [and elsewhere, to be fair].

None of you here live in the States [as I do]; you get your information 2nd and 3rd hand from a media largely anti-Republican. Click-bait hyperbole. And now plenty of push back by the citizens and the courts Stateside.

No-one here addresses the real issues in play since Trump was elected (and indeed, well before he was elected), namely, the threat to the US Constitution, separation of powers and rule of law by an entrenched bureaucracy comprising the professional political class.

The Soviets had two apt words describing these grifters - apparatchiks, and nomenklatura. Nominally Republican and Democrat at election time, but otherwise two ears on the same hog.

Trump is, like that fine Texan before him, Ross Perot, the anti-politician. Not one of us. Not part of the club.

Hence the existential angst, anger and general discombobulation of the apparatchiks, nomenklatura and their sponsors and enablers when confronted by someone like Trump.

PS Trump is pushing back on the Chicoms. Any approval here? Any? Any at all?

Nope. Nothing. Goes against this thread's narrative, don'tcha know.

Maybe in due course y'all may find yourselves, in Australia, in a situation where Trump might not be so bad after all.

Trump's big selling point as a politician is that he's not a politician? Do you choose your doctor in the same way?

 

[deltablues]

Trump's big selling point as a politician is that he's not a politician? Do you choose your doctor in the same way?

No, I don't.

And it's clear from your comment that you are either being mischievously disingenuous or you are unfortunately naturally obtuse.

Your pick, bud.