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Two main selection dilemmas

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Blair plays a huge role in our F50. He is a huge part of our forward press, and I'd love to see how many tackles per game he makes in our 50. Fasolo doesn't even play the same role as him, if anything it'd be Krak vs. Fas I reckon.
 
In reckon its between Blair, Krak and Fas for 2 spots, one of them the sub.

Fasolo 'seems' to be more versatile, so I put him as sub and it came down to Krak vs Blair.

Nice problem to have.

Edit: also agree that Fasolo is a diff player. Blair and Krak are crumbers, Fas seems more of a hitup target and probably more in competition with Beams/Sidey/Didak and he aint going to win that battle
 
Looks like with Dale Thomas two week suspension, Blair & Fasolo should play week 1 in finals.

It will probably come to who plays better that game on who keeps their spot for the prelim, assuming no more injuries, suspensions and that we win against Eagles.
 
I think that we lose nothing (on the feild) no matter which player we pick, however for the sake of the future we could gain more by selecting Blair ahead of Fasolo. Fasolo is a first year player who will retain the hunger and use missing selection in a GF to drive nim harder in the future. Thus increasing the chances of making the most of his abilities during his career, he wont be shattered by missing this year he will just become stronger.
As I said previously, if we play anywhere near our potential that particular selection outcome won't have a direct bearing on the outcome.
Dang it's great that our team is not only the best but also has more improvement to come.
 

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dubber said:
Does anyone think Macaffer is a chance for lining against Geelong?
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Yes. If fit & ready to go then MM will give him an opportunity against Geelong. If he plays & performs then we have a choice of Fasolo/Blair/Caff during the finals (probably only one can play if we have full list to choose from). Still have to squeeze Ball/Wellingham/Shaw/Thomas & probably Maxwell back in the 22. Great depth that we will need over the next 5 weeks.
 
You have to go Maxwell over the sac, as good as he has been the captain is an automatic inclusion.

Between Blair and Fasolo I think it will come down to how we're going to use the sub. If one of them was going to be the sub I think we will go with Fas as he's shown he can have an immediate impact when he comes on and has been a fantastic sub this year, if we are going to use someone else as the sub then I would think Blair would get the nod because of his tackling press and inside work as well as his experience in finals.
 
I would be going the complete opposite of the OP.

Goldsack would be my choice. Watch how Maxwell's hand 'won't quite come up', which is justified, as last thing Collingwood would want is for the media to get a hold of the idea that the skipper has been left out for Goldsack.

I would be incredibly disappointed if we had to choose between these two, and they opted for Maxwell, although Maxy is our skipper, Goldsack has done absolutely nothing wrong to warrant being dropped.

IF they are going to opt for Maxwell, we'll see Goldsack dropped after this week for Heater, to cover that up.

In regards to the other dilemma we face. I'd much rather Fasolo over Blair. Blair's crumbing ability is out of this world, but overall package-wise in the forward line, you'd have to say Fasolo has been the better player so far this year. What works in Blair's favour is the fact that finals footy is a lot more intense, so his more battle-hardened body, and experience might get him over the line. I just feel that Fasolo would step up, and do something miraculous when required in a Prelim or Grand Final in my eyes.
 
Goldsack had 5 clangers last week, and a lot of them were pretty bad IMO. If Maxwell had done them people would be calling for his head. That doesn't mean Goldsack shouldn't be picked ahead of Maxwell, but I don't think he's doing enough to keep his spot if Maxwell is fit.
 
Sack vs Maxwell: sack's form pretty consistent this year, dependable one on one, attacking type defender, not a bad kick out, tendency towards the odd clanger. maxie's form average, has lost one on ones, 1%ers, inspirational captain's efforts less visible this year, returning from injury. The difference between them, even in the past, would not be sufficient to punt on, If maxie was not captain!
Conclusion: we know what we get with the sack, the only reason maxwell would be selected is on basis of captaincy. He'd want to play well or the pies win ..... I'd put him to the fitness test of all fitness tests and if he passed play him but sit him down and get him to agree to resign as captain by 2012

blair vs fasolo: This comparison doesn't really work for me. I'd like to know what role these two are given each week. Blair seems to suffer from the same neg publicity that leon did last year in playing a role of creating forward pressure. too soon to decide between suspect fas the better player but needs to continue to prove it. fas if sub, blair if not right now

the sub: Kinda always thought this was where the sack was best placed. not sure now, sub seems to have been worked around fitness, bringing someone into the team rather than solely on versatility and best short term impact. Dids made a great sub. Fas for sub? Radical thought - krak?
 
Sh1t no NIA we need krak on the ground, he's the type of player that can tear a team apart in the blink of an eye. Fas is the best sub option IMHO - he shone in that role earlier and can do so again.
 
At this stage I'd be leaning to Sack and Blair over Maxwell and Fas.

I can also envisage us having a dilemma with Brown/Wood on our hands, especially if Cam stays in the side for rd 24 and backs up his last weeks game.
 

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PieBeast said:
At this stage I'd be leaning to Sack and Blair over Maxwell and Fas.

I can also envisage us having a dilemma with Brown/Wood on our hands, especially if Cam stays in the side for rd 24 and backs up his last weeks game.
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A lot of us - myself included - have been ranting about how Wood hasn't been producing the goods. He finally delivered to a certain extent now he should at least be given the Geelong game to back up that performance.
 
Once Maxwell is fit, he will go straight back in.
Blair is sitting 3rd on tackle count for Pies (behind Ball & Pendles), important part of forward press & kicks goals (he has played 20 games from 21 this year with 24 goals).
If Goldsack & Fasolo miss out, then they are stiff - but someone has to miss out. We also have further depth (Caff/Wood/McCarthy/Buckley/Rounds/Sinclair) if we lose players thru Sept (hopefully not).
 
For me its Maxwell and Blair for the question posed. I don't think it's going to come down to just those two though especially for the Blair/Fasolo decision. Sidebottom and Wellingham are not too far away from that decision line.....
 
Not much of a call on the first one. I believe Goldsack is the better player and will be very stiff to miss the finals, but Maxwell will come back in regardless of his form.

Not sure about Blair and Fasolo. Blair has played finals before and is handy when in form, so is Fasolo worth the risk?
 
Bugglz said:
You have to go Maxwell over the sac, as good as he has been the captain is an automatic inclusion.
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Agree re: Maxwell.

Goldsacks form is getting overstated. He's hardly been inspiring. Some of his footskills have been downright atrocious.

My biggest concern about bringing Maxy in would be whether it was under duress. If he's injured, considering the turnover of the list running into finals, it's hard to justify.

But if he does come up you just have to play him. While his form has admittedly been ordinary I think you just have to back him as he has never let us down when it has counted.
 

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"josh said:
Goldsack had 23 touches for 78% DE on Friday night with 81% DE overall this season, so he is upto standard.

I would also have Goldsack ahead of O'Brien atm.
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Disposal efficiency is not the best statistic. It has it's flaws. I'm judging this with my eyes and I don't like what i've seen.
 
Blair has to and will play. With Krak and Dids lack of tackling ability, Blair's manic tackling is a must in the forward half.

I'm agnostic about Maxwell and Goldsack. I reckon Goldsack is this board's golden boy and his weaknesses are ignored. But Maxwell has been out of form.
 
noideaatall said:
Conclusion: we know what we get with the sack, the only reason maxwell would be selected is on basis of captaincy. He'd want to play well or the pies win ..... I'd put him to the fitness test of all fitness tests and if he passed play him but sit him down and get him to agree to resign as captain by 2012
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Fitness isn't his issue, he has a broken thumb or whatever. Form is his problem and there will be no way we'll know about him unless he plays, or plays in scratch matches. There's no way you'd tell him he has to resign as captain after 2012 either.

Quicky said:
Disposal efficiency is not the best statistic. It has it's flaws. I'm judging this with my eyes and I don't like what i've seen.
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Exactly. He had 3 contested possession but then had 5 direct turnovers, meaning he was turning it over with no pressure. I didn't think he was appalling but I do remember a few times I thought he was pretty poor, kicking it out on the full etc. Goldsack is capable, he's not flying though.
 
Does anyone remember how putrid maxwell was for the first 4/5 weeks after his long layoff earlier this season (Rib injury). By the time he's ready to go, it will be a similar length in time off the field and I wouldn't want to flirt with the chance that he comes back in and is bad as his last layoff.
 
Maxwell has recently stated that he played early in the year with stress fractures. If fit, he's an automatic inclusion. Love the Sack but that is just the reality.

Blair/Fasolo/Krak is not so clear cut and you could make a case for any of them. I guess if you are being fairdinkum, Sidebottom and Didak also come into that group. The Caff is not likely but he, Sinclair, and McCarthy would all like to be included in this discussion you'd think.

Great problem to have.
 
jackcass said:
Maxwell has recently stated that he played early in the year with stress fractures. If fit, he's an automatic inclusion. Love the Sack but that is just the reality.

Blair/Fasolo/Krak is not so clear cut and you could make a case for any of them. I guess if you are being fairdinkum, Sidebottom and Didak also come into that group. The Caff is not likely but he, Sinclair, and McCarthy would all like to be included in this discussion you'd think.

Great problem to have.
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Have to agree.
Make Mick earn his pay.:thumbsu:
 

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