Game Day U18 National Championships - Allies v Vic Country Sunday July 7th 10.35am

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Its a strange one, the 2 best performing mids are not getting much love, Smillie and Jagga

Jagga/Fos & Draper I'd be happy with.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

How you know this?

As in playing the next few games in VFL?

Apparently

 

[Future Third]

No Pressure Tocey!

 

[Karp3_dm]

Apparently

Very exciting if that’s the case

Maybe he will push Cumberland out like Meteoric Rise said

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

McAuliffe tested elite for speed. Graham and Hopper should be irrelevant to our long term plans. Pick best available and fill in the gaps later.

We look so much better when Bolton's in the middle.
We need more of his type.Not a lumbering Bull.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Very exciting if that’s the case

Maybe he will push Cumberland out like Meteoric Rise said

Don't think we need Jagga too push Cumbers out.
But yeah if true it'll give us a leg up on Jagga.

 

[tiger_tough]

We're slow enough as it is.
Hopper/Mcauliffe/Graham
We need spark.

McAuliffe was 5th at the combine for 20m sprint. Graham hopefully won't be at the club next year.

Have to go best available.

 

[tigs2010]

We look so much better when Bolton's in the middle.
We need more of his type.Not a lumbering Bull.

We need everything. We are the worst team in the comp with no A graders under 25.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Very exciting if that’s the case

Maybe he will push Cumberland out like Meteoric Rise said

Morro at the Finals week 1 meeting:

Cumby, sit this one out buddy, we just want to get the right balance forward of the ball.

Imagine Cumbo's chevy chase.

 

[Wavvey]

He is about twice as strong as the next kid though, that's actually a problem because we can't get a gauge of how he'd perform against another midfielder in the 90kg range who he'll be manning in the AFL. You could argue he has a pretty low ceiling.

I get your point but I completely disagree with the low ceiling. In fact I think it’s quite the opposite. His frame is built to be able to add plenty more muscle.

Patrick Cripps is the on the money comparison. Both have/had massive frames with “puppy fat” that will turn into muscle easy. Bont was similar. That’s the prototype for the kind of player you pray Smillie will become.

Jack Graham suits what you are talking about a lot more, and it was the reason why he fell so low on the draft and we were able to nab him. His body was already matured and he already had the muscle, and it showed in his play. He was able to play in the AFL early and unfortunately hasn’t improved too much since those early days. Smillies potential is huge that’s why he’s still talked about going number 1 over someone like Jagga Smith who is performing much more consistently.

 

[tigs2010]

I get your point but I completely disagree with the low ceiling. In fact I think it’s quite the opposite. His frame is built to be able to add plenty more muscle.

Patrick Cripps is the on the money comparison. Both have/had massive frames with “puppy fat” that will turn into muscle easy. Bont was similar. That’s the prototype for the kind of player you pray Smillie will become. View attachment 2049219View attachment 2049220

Jack Graham suits what you are talking about a lot more, and it was the reason why he fell so low on the draft and we were able to nab him. His body was already matured and he already had the muscle, and it showed in his play. He was able to play in the AFL early and unfortunately hasn’t improved too much since those early days. Smillies potential is huge that’s why he’s still talked about going number 1 over someone like Jagga Smith who is performing much more consistently.

The last part is the exact art of recruiting. Smillie could make Toce look a genius or a complete gimp in 4 or 5 years. Smith you know roughly what you're going to get.

 

[Wavvey]

The last part is the exact art of recruiting. Smillie could make Toce look a genius or a complete gimp in 4 or 5 years. Smith you know roughly what you're going to get.

Bang on mate. Smith is awesome, love him as well but you know what your getting. Smillie is the big swing for the fences

 

[Drunken Wookie]

I get your point but I completely disagree with the low ceiling. In fact I think it’s quite the opposite. His frame is built to be able to add plenty more muscle.

Patrick Cripps is the on the money comparison. Both have/had massive frames with “puppy fat” that will turn into muscle easy. Bont was similar. That’s the prototype for the kind of player you pray Smillie will become. View attachment 2049219View attachment 2049220

Jack Graham suits what you are talking about a lot more, and it was the reason why he fell so low on the draft and we were able to nab him. His body was already matured and he already had the muscle, and it showed in his play. He was able to play in the AFL early and unfortunately hasn’t improved too much since those early days. Smillies potential is huge that’s why he’s still talked about going number 1 over someone like Jagga Smith who is performing much more consistently.

I don't disagree with you and I wouldn't be disappointed if we took him. Just citing it as a risk. If he continues to develop on this trajectory he could be a generational freakish beast. OR he could be Jack Graham and find that when shaping up to other heavy weights you've lost your point of difference. If his entire game is built upon the fact that hes bigger and stronger than everyone around him and it is, arguably your ceiling could be pretty low once those tools are taken away.

 

[Mr Magic]

Bang on mate. Smith is awesome, love him as well but you know what your getting. Smillie is the big swing for the fences

Simllie was all australian CHB at under 16's apparently.

So he can play forward, in the guts, wing and CHB. that means he is safe, what standard?? we will see but safe and offers something different.

we need as many top 10 and top 20 draft picks as possible

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

We need everything. We are the worst team in the comp with no A graders under 25.

Agree in that regard.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

McAuliffe was 5th at the combine for 20m sprint. Graham hopefully won't be at the club next year.

Have to go best available.

Best available.
That could very well be Trainor

 

[tigs2010]

Best available.
That could very well be Trainor

Could be. Would be interesting. Gibcus could be cooked, Balta is a FA next year I believe.

I'm hoping Draper goes nuts and separates himself and the BA is also the need

 

[tiger_tough]

Best available.
That could very well be Trainor

Not a standout 1. We obviously need mids more

 

[Noidnadroj]

We're slow enough as it is.
Hopper/Mcauliffe/Graham
We need spark.

The spark is right in front of our eyes.. Shai Bolton. After TT went off Bolton played mostly mid and had 8 touches, 1 x goal, 1 x goal assist, 3 x clearances and 3 x SI’s in a quarter!

Bolton needs to be 70/30 mid!

He’s exactly the speed our midfield needs, but he’s not played there enough because we are making room for TT, Hopper and Prestia, who can’t play anywhere else.

FFS … play Bolton as a midfielder ala Butters, Warner, Daicos and Reid … if this move happens when Bolton is 28yo I’ll spew


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[tiger_tough]

The spark is right in front of our eyes.. Shai Bolton. After TT went off Bolton played mostly mid and had 8 touches, 1 x goal, 1 x goal assist, 3 x clearances and 3 x SI’s in a quarter!

Bolton needs to be 70/30 mid!

He’s exactly the speed our midfield needs, but he’s not played there enough because we are making room for TT, Hopper and Prestia, who can’t play anywhere else.

FFS … play Bolton as a midfielder ala Butters, Warner, Daicos and Reid … if this move happens when Bolton is 28yo I’ll spew


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I agree but it seems that once Yze has a plan he sticks with it. That means Balta and Bolton forward where possible.

Frustrating.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

The spark is right in front of our eyes.. Shai Bolton. After TT went off Bolton played mostly mid and had 8 touches, 1 x goal, 1 x goal assist, 3 x clearances and 3 x SI’s in a quarter!

Bolton needs to be 70/30 mid!

He’s exactly the speed our midfield needs, but he’s not played there enough because we are making room for TT, Hopper and Prestia, who can’t play anywhere else.

FFS … play Bolton as a midfielder ala Butters, Warner, Daicos and Reid … if this move happens when Bolton is 28yo I’ll spew


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Hence why I'm keen on a Fos/Jagga & Draper.
We can still keep Bolton as is as he is still our dangerous fwd outside of Lynch.

 

[Maurice Mitchell]

Best thing is Smith is going play a few games for us in the vfl.

Put him in Kaleb Smith’s jumper and pick him in the seniors. Doubt anyone would notice.

 

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[tiger_tough]

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Only 1 bottom ager this year. Deep draft.