Umpiring - I've had it

[Major Colvin]

They were shocking towards us today, but they are terrible in general. Every year the football community rants at how bad the umpiring is, and is anything done? Yes. A few more ridiculous rule changes and it gets worse again. I think a pre-requisite of becoming an umpire should be actually to have played the game, then they'd have some ****ing idea that IF YOU TACKLE SOMEONE FROM BEHIND THEY ARE GOING TO FALL FORWARD AND THE TACKLER WILL LAND ON THEM, WHAT THE **** ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO!??!

 

[nicho_magic]

the last comment highlites your lack of knowledge of the game. its like saying if you accidently touch someone above the shoulder it shouldn't be a free kick... if you fall into someones back accidently or deliberetly at the end of the day its still a free kick.

to the umpires. i don't beleive the umpirres are allways to blame, i beleive the rules are shocking. why they aren't left from year to year, allowing for consistency and the umpires to have some stability from year to year. the hands in the back rule is a joke.

 

[Animosity]

IF YOU TACKLE SOMEONE FROM BEHIND THEY ARE GOING TO FALL FORWARD AND THE TACKLER WILL LAND ON THEM, WHAT THE **** ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO!??!

how bout tackling from the side ? ..... An unbiased melbourne supporter, clearly Mcdonalds momentum of running faster than cross carried the weight into his back ... so he is pushing him in the back.

On a different note i personally think Poor Jeff White would have the least free kicks paid for in a ruck contest, the way they shepard him out to nullify his leap is terrible

 

[Astro_]

how bout tackling from the side ? ..... An unbiased melbourne supporter, clearly Mcdonalds momentum of running faster than cross carried the weight into his back ... so he is pushing him in the back.

On a different note i personally think Poor Jeff White would have the least free kicks paid for in a ruck contest, the way they shepard him out to nullify his leap is terrible

How many times did Holland shepard Darcy out of the rucking contest whilst allowing White a free hit at the ball when the ball was down the dogs fwd line.

It happens both ways.

Westie was held at the contest almost every ball up by number 30.

 

[master bate]

Jeff White cant buy a free kick in the ruck but its time he builds a bridge and gets over it and starts looking for more ways to be effective, how afl.com puts him in the best is beyond me. As for Macca he was very unlucky, he didnt actually land in cross' back but landed behind him and watched him go forward, i would have accepted the decision if they paid the same one all day, Neitz got tackled in the forward line by harris and got holding the ball, but hey short of running out there and smacking McLaren and Sully we just have to keep yelling. Anyone else think West should have given away a free for deliberate, the new rules this year were harsher on deliberate even if the ball is kicked a long distance and there was no one near where he kicked it.

 

[master bate]

How many times did Holland shepard Darcy out of the rucking contest whilst allowing White a free hit at the ball when the ball was down the dogs fwd line.

It happens both ways.

Westie was held at the contest almost every ball up by number 30.

Its called tagging mate and Godfrey did a damn good job of it as Boyd does most weeks, West wont be getting my hopes for winning the brownlow as he sank to the Goodes level by resorting to weak violence.

 

[StingaArmstrong]

I watched it on TV (difficult to get there from Hobart) and the umps were miked up...that no.12 had the girliest voice i've ever heard on a man. Absolute stereotype of a pissant umpire that wants to have an impact on the game and be noticed. Paid some of the softest free kicks of all time.

Seriously the rules are basically rubbish, and the umpires that umpire to the letter of the law are the ones that suck, because they will always miss ones, as these contests happen hundreds of times a game. I don't how much Adrian Anderson has to do with the rules, but since he's started at the AFL, the game style has gone downhill.

 

[master bate]

Our football operations manager who controls the laws of the game and the tribunal is a lawyer, and they wonder why the game has gone downhill.

Out: Anderson
In: Sheedy

If he wasnt Essendon biased he would be great and promote high scoring, tough, skillfull footy with commonsense rules.

 

[Lenny*]

What I thought was crap was when Paul Johnson tackled Morris after a mark, resulting in a 50 metre penalty and a goal to WB - then the same thing happened to Neitz the very next play, and he only got a free kick.

 

[master bate]

Something that really annoys me is when a player takes a mark and then is pushed in the back or held or their arms are chopped and they get a free instead of the mark, makes u think they just wasted one of the precious frees we will get in the game and robs a player of a mark, no real impact on the game but damn annoying.

 

[melbournemartin]

Neitz wasn't actually payed the mark - he was payed the free kick for holding the man. That means that Harris only committed the 'holding the man' infringement and didn't dump Neitz after a mark as no mark had been paid, therefore, no 50 metres.

 

[ReservoirDog]

What I thought was crap was when Paul Johnson tackled Morris after a mark, resulting in a 50 metre penalty and a goal to WB - then the same thing happened to Neitz the very next play, and he only got a free kick.

Neitz didn't hold the mark but the ump had blown his whistle, he then gave holding the man.

 

[pizzor]

how about the out on the full in the bulldogs forward pocket in the 1st qtr, the ball was clearly out WTF seriously umps

 

[ExTasDeeMan]

That 'push in the back' was just disgraceful. Who do you have to **** for a holding the ball these days when you run the player down and momentum then is a penalising factor?

 

[melbournemartin]

how about the out on the full in the bulldogs forward pocket in the 1st qtr, the ball was clearly out WTF seriously umps

HAHA that was hilarious...only because we got the correct call moments later.

 

[Animosity]

lets watch our mouths guys ... we might get fined 2 n a half grand

 

[Mofra]

HAHA that was hilarious...only because we got the correct call moments later.

Same player kicked it too (Eagleton).... if he did that on purpose I doubt a single Bulldogs fan would have complained. The first kick was out by a solid 2m!

The in the back rule has seriously got to be looked at - if two players are running hard at a contest some contact is inevitable.

Although I wouldn't have to remind Dees fans, considering the Neitz free paid last week for a "push". This would be the first year in 110+ years of football it would have even been a "technical" free.

 

[Supermercado]

how about the out on the full in the bulldogs forward pocket in the 1st qtr, the ball was clearly out WTF seriously umps

At least the field umpire got that right. Pity the idiot boundary umpire came in and spoiled it by admitting he had no idea. Then the goal umpire gets dragged in for comment and admits he has no idea either. **** me what a debacle.

Plenty more wild deliberates by both sides yesterday as well. Yet none of them get paid a week after the McDonald fiasco.

 

[Jonesy2]

the one no one had mentioned is the free kick against Jones right at the end that lead to the game winning goal. Jonesy rapt him up and the guy just buckled at his knees and fell forward and jonesy had no where to go, but fall into his back Crap decision! And thats the one that cost us!

 

[always right]

the one no one had mentioned is the free kick against Jones right at the end that lead to the game winning goal. Jonesy rapt him up and the guy just buckled at his knees and fell forward and jonesy had no where to go, but fall into his back Crap decision! And thats the one that cost us!

This might surprise you but I thought that one was correct....as for the earlier one where McDonald ran down Cross and had the same decision paid against him, we were extremely fortunate.

 

[Walsh Bay]

This might surprise you but I thought that one was correct....as for the earlier one where McDonald ran down Cross and had the same decision paid against him, we were extremely fortunate.

Yep I must admit I winced a bit when we were paid that one.

 

[The Flash]

Neitz wasn't actually payed the mark - he was payed the free kick for holding the man. That means that Harris only committed the 'holding the man' infringement and didn't dump Neitz after a mark as no mark had been paid, therefore, no 50 metres.

Wrong. The ump payed the holding free just before Neitz took the mark. Harris dumping him after the fact SHOULD have been paid a 50m.
Example-Neitz leads but gets grabbed, takes the mark, but the free is already paid. Harris then dumps him to the ground clearly after the whistle was blown. 50m every time.
Umps were bad most of the day.

 

[AndyD]

No doubt that in the spirit of the rule, Cross was done for holding the ball. However, idiot umpires like the ones we had yesterday umpiried to the letter of the law and not the spirit of the law. Technically, McDonald didn't attempt to turn or spin Cross over in the tackle and that is why it was in the back and not holding the ball. Another example of them umpiring to the letter and not the spirit was the 50 paid against Brad Johnson. Yes, technically he went over the mark, however the 50 meter penalty for going over the mark was not intended for situations like that.

 

[The Flash]

No doubt that in the spirit of the rule, Cross was done for holding the ball. However, idiot umpires like the ones we had yesterday umpiried to the letter of the law and not the spirit of the law. Technically, McDonald didn't attempt to turn or spin Cross over in the tackle and that is why it was in the back and not holding the ball. Another example of them umpiring to the letter and not the spirit was the 50 paid against Brad Johnson. Yes, technically he went over the mark, however the 50 meter penalty for going over the mark was not intended for situations like that.

1m ok, but 3m? The mark was taken and he kept on going over.
50m everytime.

 

[master bate]

No doubt that in the spirit of the rule, Cross was done for holding the ball. However, idiot umpires like the ones we had yesterday umpiried to the letter of the law and not the spirit of the law. Technically, McDonald didn't attempt to turn or spin Cross over in the tackle and that is why it was in the back and not holding the ball. Another example of them umpiring to the letter and not the spirit was the 50 paid against Brad Johnson. Yes, technically he went over the mark, however the 50 meter penalty for going over the mark was not intended for situations like that.

One of the only frees we got all day and we were off anyway, if the ump played advantage we could have got a goal at the other end.