Umpiring

[jetbhag]

Our players plead with the umpires on game day and they don’t even get a response. It instead has an opposite effect and we don’t get paid anything after.

If we do get a dodgy free kick the umpires then notice the error and don’t pay us anything after.

Just look at other teams when they are hard done by the umps, the following week the umps pay them double.

Until the CFL employ permanent full time umpires this trend will continue.

 

[sabso]

Our players plead with the umpires on game day and they don’t even get a response. It instead has an opposite effect and we don’t get paid anything after.

If we do get a dodgy free kick the umpires then notice the error and don’t pay us anything after.

Just look at other teams when they are hard done by the umps, the following week the umps pay them double.

Until the CFL employ permanent full time umpires this trend will continue.

Certain dishonest clubs paying the umpires a living discreetly?

 

[RoaringTiger]

Geez I wish I could bet on free kick counts…. Lock it in for this week. Essendon 23, Richmond 15. Including 2x50 metre penalties to Essendon (none to us of course). Will be the main contributing factor to our 9 point loss. I’m bloody Nostradamus on this stuff

 

[jetbhag]

Certain dishonest clubs paying the umpires a living discreetly?

i agree with this statement.

Wouldn’t surprise me when the CFL made rule changes to stop our dynasty the re-played footage of our player over and over again infront of the umpires.

 

[RoaringTiger]

Watching the way Collingwood are umpired compared to us, it is literally like the umpires are using different rule books

 

[RoaringTiger]

Cheats

 

[RoaringTiger]

I think afl.com rigs the umpiring stats.

 

[Sir_Rancelot]

You could visibly see the frustration of the players faces with some of the stupid calls.

 

[Dr Tigris]

Umpires BOG for the Dons

Terrible calls and not much sense. I guess I am used to it by now. But it is so silly. We suck, we don't crap calls to make it worse.

 

[Calcium Man]

You could visibly see the frustration of the players faces with some of the stupid calls.

It’s noticeable how frustrated Prestia and Flossy have been recently with the free kicks being paid and not paid.

 

[Sir_Rancelot]

It’s noticeable how frustrated Prestia and Flossy have been recently with the free kicks being paid and not paid.

Some of those frees were 50/50 either way, that Prestia free against was a joke

 

[Meteoric Rise]

After 6 games this seasons we had amazingly won 3 free kick counts. I say amazingly because normal for an AFL club is amazing for Richmond.

11 games later we have won 2 further free kick counts. Amazingly shit. But normal for Richmond.

 

[Punt rd end]

I was listening to sen the other day and the afl reckon the umpiring is 98% accurate

so

Dwayne Russell asked the afl for the data so that he could spread the word and show the public

and

The AFL did not respond to the request


BIGGEST BULLSHIT ORGANISATION EVER!!

 

[Meteoric Rise]

I was listening to sen the other day and the afl reckon the umpiring is 98% accurate

so

Dwayne Russell asked the afl for the data so that he could spread the word and show the public

and

The AFL did not respond to the request


BIGGEST BULLSHIT ORGANISATION EVER!!

9.8% accurate.

 

[beema limapep]

That. Was. Putrid.

 

[Calcium Man]

After 6 games this seasons we had amazingly won 3 free kick counts. I say amazingly because normal for an AFL club is normal for Richmond.

11 games later we have won 2 further free kick counts. Amazingly shit. But normal for Richmond.

Do you have how many times we’ve lost/won the free kick count since 2017?

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Do you have how many times we’ve lost/won the free kick count since 2017?

I don't but at one point a year or two back I went back a few years and I think we have won under or around 30% of all free kick counts going back to 2017.

There may have been a run of 20 odd games where we won the free kick count once as well.

 

[tigerisland]

Last night really was disgraceful.

 

[tigs2010]

I don't but at one point a year or two back I went back a few years and I think we have won under or around 30% of all free kick counts going back to 2017.

There may have been a run of 20 odd games where we won the free kick count once as well.

It's da way we play

 

[cairo tiger]

systematic cheating against us, its been going on for too long

 

[Andyy]

Thought they got the rub of the green somewhat but let's be honest the umpiring was terrible both ways. And some of the calls just ruined the momentum of a very tedious game. Would have been better putting the whistle away and letting them thrash and maul it out.

 

[Boston tiger]

Collingwood players umpire the game .. maybe we should try it as well. They just don’t complain , they yell out the decision as it’s happening. This just getting on with the job just isn’t working.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

I was listening to sen the other day and the afl reckon the umpiring is 98% accurate

For the ones they call, that's not too far off the mark. You could plausibly justify most free kicks awarded.

But it's the one's they don't pay that creates the horrendous inconsistencies.

Quite simply, they pick and choose. Whether that is subconscious or something else, I'm unsure.

Case in point. There was a free kick awarded against Tom Lynch a few weeks ago that involved both he and his opponent jostling and holding each other's guernseys. Whistle goes. Both players looked quizzically at the ump. Decision? Free kick against Lynch.

This could only have transpired had the umpire been solely looking at Lynch's indiscretion and not his opponent's. He had exactly the same view of both holds of jumper, but he was clearly more on the lookout for a Lynch indiscretion. It is the only possible way to explain the decision.

And to be fair, replays showed Lynch holding his opponent's guernsey, which of course the commentary team at the time focused upon. The decision was hence justified, and no more to see here.

But the very same could've been said if the umpire had been on the lookout for Lynch being infringed, and paid him the exact same free kick.

This happens far too much in Richmond games for it to be sheer luck. The numbers would even up far more than they have over such a large sample of time and incidents if there wasn't some other element at play.

Is it our guernsey design? Does the lack of stripes not show Lynch being scragged too? But that doesn't explain why Carlton, Essendon etc don't have the same dilemma. Nor does it explain why this repeatedly happens in other infringements not related to guernsey grabbing.

It can't be game style - that has changed quite dramatically over the last few years, and it's an almost entirely different set of players and coaches too.

I'm seriously flummoxed and open to suggestions.

 

[beema limapep]

Each decision is a lottery. And a lottery that Richmond fans statistically see us losing more than any other team over a long period.

Those are the facts.

 

[RoaringTiger]

For the ones they call, that's not too far off the mark. You could plausibly justify most free kicks awarded.

But it's the one's they don't pay that creates the horrendous inconsistencies.

Quite simply, they pick and choose. Whether that is subconscious or something else, I'm unsure.

Case in point. There was a free kick awarded against Tom Lynch a few weeks ago that involved both he and his opponent jostling and holding each other's guernseys. Whistle goes. Both players looked quizzically at the ump. Decision? Free kick against Lynch.

This could only have transpired had the umpire been solely looking at Lynch's indiscretion and not his opponent's. He had exactly the same view of both holds of jumper, but he was clearly more on the lookout for a Lynch indiscretion. It is the only possible way to explain the decision.

And to be fair, replays showed Lynch holding his opponent's guernsey, which of course the commentary team at the time focused upon. The decision was hence justified, and no more to see here.

But the very same could've been said if the umpire had been on the lookout for Lynch being infringed, and paid him the exact same free kick.

This happens far too much in Richmond games for it to be sheer luck. The numbers would even up far more than they have over such a large sample of time and incidents if there wasn't some other element at play.

Is it our guernsey design? Does the lack of stripes not show Lynch being scragged too? But that doesn't explain why Carlton, Essendon etc don't have the same dilemma. Nor does it explain why this repeatedly happens in other infringements not related to guernsey grabbing.

It can't be game style - that has changed quite dramatically over the last few years, and it's an almost entirely different set of players and coaches too.

I'm seriously flummoxed and open to suggestions.

You shouldn’t be flummoxed it is ABSOLUTELY DEFINITIVELY THE AFL CHEATING AGAINST US. That is the answer.