Uni and Work

[jacqui9]

Does anyone here study Uni externally and work full time as well.

I started last year and was wondering how other people cope with it.

 

[Tinker]

I do both and it is hard work.

I work full time while taking three units externally through Deakin. Until this year I have been very lax about it and have suffered for it (especially with the ole Hecs debt) but I am taking it really seriously now and it's paying off.

Good luck.

 

[campbell]

My eldest is in 1st year.He is studying full time plus working.
He timetabled his load over 2 days to fit in his work as well. On the holidays he works fulltime. UNi is over an hours drive away, not available by public transport,as he is under 18 he doesn't have a licence, so I drive him.

He is trying to pay his HECS upfront so he doesn't have the worry of not qualifying for a mortgage when he is out of uni and working full time. We have a few friends whose kids have been in that position. The banks frown on HECS debts, thus you don't get the loan until the debt is fully repayed.Unfair but thats the way it is. I wish I had the money to help him out.

 

[Homer]

I bet he does too.

Uni is a pain in the bum, but you get used to it, slowly.

 

[Uncle Steve]

I did a Masters degree part-time while working full-time.

Auntie Shell did her degree part-time while working full-time.

It suxs, but it beats being poor. Grit your teeth and bear it - just think that after a few years you'll be finished and in a better job.

campbell makes a good point re the HECS. Auntie Shell paid most of hers up-front. Got a discount for doing that, and less of a debt at the end. Gotta see the benefit in that.

 

[1jasonoz]

Originally posted by jacqui9
Does anyone here study Uni externally and work full time as well.

I started last year and was wondering how other people cope with it.

I study externally, then also work offshore on Oil Rigs where i work a 12 hour day, 7 day a week roster(4 weeks on). It's very hard to sit down and read after a full days work. No what you are going through, but you aren't alone.

 

[carn_the_nmfc]

jacqui9,

I think that it would be better to work part time than full time because full time work can cost you your studies.

I know of a few ppl who have part time work and part time study. Tell your boss that you are studying and that it would be best if you did your work part time so that you have time to study as well.

 

[year of the roo]

Originally posted by goaldrush
jacqui9,

I think that it would be better to work part time than full time because full time work can cost you your studies.

I know of a few ppl who have part time work and part time study. Tell your boss that you are studying and that it would be best if you did your work part time so that you have time to study as well.

You don't go to Uni and you don't have a job, why then would you be giving advice to people in this area as you obviously don't know what you're talking about?!

 

[jacqui9]

Originally posted by goaldrush
jacqui9,

I think that it would be better to work part time than full time because full time work can cost you your studies.

I know of a few ppl who have part time work and part time study. Tell your boss that you are studying and that it would be best if you did your work part time so that you have time to study as well.

I have a full time government job Suzi - there is no way I am giving it up - it pays for all my melbourne trips to see the Hawks!! The way Government employment works - we cant pick and choose at all.

I have avoided PELS (postgraduate scheme). I have paid for every unit up front. I am doing three subjects for the Graducate Certifcate - each 6 units each.

 

[Wrenny]

hey guys i need a bit of help. I am in year 12 now and i wanan do a bar course cause i think it will be alot of fun. Has anyone done a bar course and can you tell me about it and if i need to go to uni or tafe.

 

[TheBloods]

Originally posted by jacqui9
Does anyone here study Uni externally and work full time as well.

I started last year and was wondering how other people cope with it.

I've done it quite a bit.

Since finishing my undergrad degree at Uni full time, I have completed 3 tertiary courses while working full time - Professional Year (chartered accounting), PostGrad Diploma of Finance and Master of Applied Finance. Currently I'm doing an Arts degree.

It's pretty tough to do both study and work.

What is absolutely critical is keeping up-to-date with the work. You have to do the homework/assignments/study whatever to keep up to date with the course progression.

I find the best way is to do a little bit each day - even 30-60 minutes a day makes sure you keep up with the course. Lunch times at work can be useful for doing a bit (and any spare time you have during work).

Cramming doesn't work as well while you're working.

If you keep up-to-date then you find as exams approach, you are reasonably well prepared already.

I know this works better as I have foolishly done both and can quite strongly recommend the keep up-to-date approach!!

 

[CharlieG]

Re: Re: Uni and Work

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Currently I'm doing an Arts degree.

What are you studying, NMW??

 

[harry_hawka]

Originally posted by wrennyboy
hey guys i need a bit of help. I am in year 12 now and i wanan do a bar course cause i think it will be alot of fun. Has anyone done a bar course and can you tell me about it and if i need to go to uni or tafe.

Rehni-boi,

I've done a bar course up here in Brisbane, and as yet have not used it for anything. I decided to do one just after I finished year 12 and had a few spare weeks, because I thought it'd be useful to have down the track. Certainly these days it helps to have a completed a bar course in getting a job at a hotel, and it will certainly help if you are looking to travel overseas. The bar course I did went for 5 days, 5 hours a day over one week. It just taught basic things such as pouring beers, making cocktails, general maintenance of a bar area, and so on.. It helps get a grip on how things work behind a bar, and would probably make things initially less daunting if you were to work behing a bar at some point in the future.

May I suggest that if you are paying the money to do a bar course, it's worth your while paying to do a separate course called a Responsible Service of Alcohol (RSA) course. These days it's very hard to get a job in a bar/ club/ hotel if you don't have an RSA certificate.

The bar course is good fun, and also useful. If you have a good "teacher", you should be able to come home pretty drunk each day too (which is what occured over the week I did mine).

 

[GoEagles]

Originally posted by year of the roo
You don't go to Uni and you don't have a job, why then would you be giving advice to people in this area as you obviously don't know what you're talking about?!

Suzi - your doing a Certificate III in IT at Ballarat Uni and work as a goal umpire, right?

Back to the topic, a friend of mine is doing her final 2 units externally this semester because she was hoping to get a full time job. So far she has only been able to get part time work, so she may as well done it internally at uni. Plus she has to give 3 written assignments, compared to doing 1 assignment, 1 presentation, 1 group assignment internally.

 

[hans moleman]

A friend of mine had 2 part-time jobs + uni - so he was basically rushing off to work as soon as lectures finished...he was a genius so it didn't really affect his uni studies. As for me, I had a part-time job while at uni, but i only put in a half-assed effort at both.

In both cases, it helped contribute to a lot of sleeping during lectures.

 

[lioness]

I'm about to start studying to get my Certificate 3 in child care, because in Queensland you have to be either qualified or studying to be qualified, to get work in that industry. I'll be doing it through TAFE I think which I know isn't Uni by the way! I'm choosing to do it off-campus so I can work full-time because I need the money. I guess it will be easier for me because my course ties in with the job I'll be doing, but still I am just not looking forward to all the studying on top of work! It's kind of a catch 22, if I don't do the course I can't get a job (or not easily because I'd have to choose another field and I don't have experience in anything else!) and I'll earn more than if I do a traineeship. Oh well I guess we do what we have to!

 

[TheBloods]

Re: Re: Re: Uni and Work

Originally posted by CharlieG
What are you studying, NMW??

History (mainly ancient) and classical languages (Greek).

 

[TheBloods]

Originally posted by hans moleman
A friend of mine had 2 part-time jobs + uni - so he was basically rushing off to work as soon as lectures finished...he was a genius so it didn't really affect his uni studies. As for me, I had a part-time job while at uni, but i only put in a half-assed effort at both.

In both cases, it helped contribute to a lot of sleeping during lectures.

Haha - that reminds me of my time at Uni. I had a job working for a futures broker - started at 7am and finished about 9-10am (depending on when my lectures were).

I would drag myself to Uni, barely concentrate in the morning and then sleep on the bean bags in the Rowden White library (Melb Uni) at lunch time!!

 

[CharlieG]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Uni and Work

Originally posted by NMWBloods
History (mainly ancient) and classical languages (Greek).

Melbourne?

I'm aiming to do History (modern) and Political Science, along with Economics in a BA/BComm double degree.

 

[TheBloods]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Uni and Work

Originally posted by CharlieG
Melbourne?

I'm aiming to do History (modern) and Political Science, along with Economics in a BA/BComm double degree.

I'm doing it at University of New England as they have an excellent distance education set up. I'd love to do it at Melb Uni as they have some great history subjects (although they seem to be gradually cutting them back ), however I can't get to lectures or tutes, which is half the enjoyment.

That's a nice double. If I had my time again I would have done a double degree, with something interesting and something useful.

The modern history subjects at Uni Melb look really good - I would do the revolutions (French, US and Russian), the world since WWII, total war WWI and WWII, Rise of Modern Japan, Great Exhibition to Great War, Hitler's Germany, Rise & Fall of the German Empire, modern middle east, Age of Stalin... ah so many interesting things...

I have always been tempted to do International Relations as one of my majors too, but it's tough to fit everything in.

 

[CharlieG]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Uni and Work

Originally posted by NMWBloods
I'm doing it at University of New England as they have an excellent distance education set up. I'd love to do it at Melb Uni as they have some great history subjects (although they seem to be gradually cutting them back ), however I can't get to lectures or tutes, which is half the enjoyment.

That's a nice double. If I had my time again I would have done a double degree, with something interesting and something useful.

The modern history subjects at Uni Melb look really good - I would do the revolutions (French, US and Russian), the world since WWII, total war WWI and WWII, Rise of Modern Japan, Great Exhibition to Great War, Hitler's Germany, Rise & Fall of the German Empire, modern middle east, Age of Stalin... ah so many interesting things...

I have always been tempted to do International Relations as one of my majors too, but it's tough to fit everything in.

Agree to all. When I read the UniMelb handbook, I get into a bad mood because there's SO MANY great subjects, particularly in History, and there's so many that I won't get to do! You've named just about all my planned subjects. I wouldn't do the Russian Revolution again though - I'm doing it now in year 12, and it'll have to do. So many subjects, so little time...

International Relations would be interesting, although I'm aiming to have a more geopolitical emphasis in the Political Science area anyway. Sociology would be good, but it's below the others in my list of priorities. Criminology would be interesting, but much more limited in its scope for employment than the others... I can't see myself being a lawyer or a police officer...

Sigh... one day I'll have to do a second BA, won't I?

Am I right in thinking the University of New England is based in Armadale or somewhere around there? You haven't had any problems with them at all? You should try Monash.

I'm doing first-year accounting through their enhancement program, and they couldn't be more disorganised for distance education if they tried! I have had every piece of correspondence end up here at least two weeks late (and its supposed to be next business day delivery), having been sent to a non-existent address that they insist I live at, then, having ended up back at Monash, it sits on their desk for a week or two until I ring up and ask them about it! I will be spending the next week catching up on four weeks work that was due before I received it. Bloody annoying... sorry to rant though.

 

[TheBloods]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Uni and Work

Originally posted by CharlieG
Am I right in thinking the University of New England is based in Armadale or somewhere around there? You haven't had any problems with them at all? You should try Monash.

Armidale - up in New England, the tablelands in northern NSW. Magnificent countryside.

No problems with them at all.

Monash didn't really have very interesting subjects.

I'm doing first-year accounting through their enhancement program, and they couldn't be more disorganised for distance education if they tried! I have had every piece of correspondence end up here at least two weeks late (and its supposed to be next business day delivery), having been sent to a non-existent address that they insist I live at, then, having ended up back at Monash, it sits on their desk for a week or two until I ring up and ask them about it! I will be spending the next week catching up on four weeks work that was due before I received it. Bloody annoying... sorry to rant though.

I've had no problems like this at all through UNE - it is very professionally run, but that's not surprising given that it is an enormously important source of revenue for the Uni. I think the number of external students is actually greater than the number of internal ones.

 

[carn_the_nmfc]

Originally posted by GoEagles
Suzi - your doing a Certificate III in IT at Ballarat Uni and work as a goal umpire, right?

Back to the topic, a friend of mine is doing her final 2 units externally this semester because she was hoping to get a full time job. So far she has only been able to get part time work, so she may as well done it internally at uni. Plus she has to give 3 written assignments, compared to doing 1 assignment, 1 presentation, 1 group assignment internally.

Cert IV in IT. Yep that is right.

YOTR,

Which course are you doing? Or did you find it too expensive and can't be bothered studying?

 

[Joel]

Originally posted by wrennyboy
hey guys i need a bit of help. I am in year 12 now and i wanan do a bar course cause i think it will be alot of fun. Has anyone done a bar course and can you tell me about it and if i need to go to uni or tafe.

No future in that mate, if you are thinking of doing that full time, think again. Do the course, if you want to pick a little bit of work, but don't rely on it as a career.

 

[TheGreatCoranzo]

Originally posted by goaldrush
Cert IV in IT. Yep that is right.

YOTR,

Which course are you doing? Or did you find it too expensive and can't be bothered studying?

Do you expect to get a job with a Cert IV in IT?