CNN has called Michigan
Nevada plus Arizona means victory
Game over
Don’t need PA or Georgia
Nevada plus Arizona means victory
Game over
Don’t need PA or Georgia
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jathanas
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I was relieved to hear Biden's call for unity. The U.S might soon be spared from the leadership of a divisive, hate inciting narcissist.
Trump is doing what Trump does. He will lose and despite his protests of cheating and fraud, he will know it was the right result because he isn't worthy. Never has been. Never will be.
Trump is smart. He knew this result was very likely. He knew that postal voters were Democrat voters, fearful of Corona Virus. He's been saying for 6 months that he would not concede. Totally predictable. But Trump, although he claimed victory last night, didn't give off the aura of victory. He was subdued and to me, looked like he'd lost. Now we have Giuliani calling fraud and calling a judge a democratic hack.
It's not going to be pretty, but the orange clown is on the canvas.
It's not going to be pretty, but the orange clown is on the canvas.
Biden 3 million and change ahead in the popular vote (will likely soar with California and NY full count which tend to be slower)
More legitimation for his victory
More legitimation for his victory
jathanas
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Biden and the democrats know this time around that they can't fight hate with hate.
Clinton's "deplorables" gave the orange man all the platform he needed. He shouldn't have been underestimated in his ability to ride the disenfranchised rustbelt 4 years ago.
He won't go quietly, but he will go. The U.S deserves the opportunity to heal.
Clinton's "deplorables" gave the orange man all the platform he needed. He shouldn't have been underestimated in his ability to ride the disenfranchised rustbelt 4 years ago.
He won't go quietly, but he will go. The U.S deserves the opportunity to heal.
Have been switching between CNN, Bloomberg and Fox
All credit to Fox’ decision desk
Has some serious quant brainpower
Fox coverage last night also had a very savvy, realistic approach - guys like Chris Wallace
One analyst has been going for 24 hours, looks as fresh as a daisy
All credit to Fox’ decision desk
Has some serious quant brainpower
Fox coverage last night also had a very savvy, realistic approach - guys like Chris Wallace
One analyst has been going for 24 hours, looks as fresh as a daisy
JB1975
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I do agree on Clinton's comment. Emphatically.
Trump will be gone but should not be forgotten. He is a scourge, but also symptom of a deeper malaise.
68 million votes or so for Don. Bob Woodward remarked that most of his supporters would crawl on broken glass for him. How many candidates can say the same?
Trump's not the answer, but his remarkable and persistent popularity must be reckoned with if America is to make itself less sick.
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Surprisingly the Fox commentators haven't been barracking as hard as the CNN crew. Great fun flicking between. Although I tend to linger on Fox because of Rupert's hiring strategy of hard hot(or used to be) blondes.
What will happen to Kayleigh McEnany now?
Yes. That was silly. A poorly constructed sentence.
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What did you think of Trump's fraud/victory speech?
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You dare to talk of Trump having no shame? What is happening now was predicted by Trump and all of his team. The whole reason the mail in ballots were pushed so strongly (as never before) was for the simple reason that such a system is easily abused. That's it. Trump has never attempted to stuff around with the constitution yet ignorant people keep referring to him as a threat to Democracy. Trump isn't advocating court packing or scrapping the electoral college. These are the steps which would destroy the democratic process. It's the Democrats who are quite open about their plans to do anything it takes to win and maintain power. They want to create new states for the same reason: Puerto Rico and DC so they would hold permanent control of the senate. Does that sound like something a party who believed in Democracy would advocate?
Oh dear. The corruption is rampant. Trump leading a number of swing states, many by a considerable margin with a fair percentage of votes counted and they stop the voting count. Why? Then at 4:00 am they discover a batch of 130 000 votes in Wisconsin, almost all for Biden and he takes a narrow lead. Trump had a lead of over 600 000 votes in Pennsylvania with 64% of the vote counted. Now they are calling PA for Biden. That would mean the most of the remaining votes would have to be for Biden and guess what? Trump's huge lead is slowly disappearing. It's so transparent yet they can do it with impunity because the media and big tech will cover for them and spew their propaganda. Why would a judge rule only a few weeks ago that matching signatures are no longer necessary? On what grounds could you justify that position?
According to the figures Biden has received more votes than any other presidential candidate in history. Reflect upon that statistic for a moment. He has millions more votes than Obama received. The most charismatic orator and first black President gets millions less votes than an old, demented man who doesn't know what state (both geographically and mentally) he is in and cannot complete a coherent sentence. Yep. That sounds plausible.
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in total agreement about fox.... obviously the name of the network reflects the women employed. Quite subdued at Fox. with its history, it was good way to judge what was a favourable position for Trump and contrast it with other media outlets. I looked at the local ABC reports too for example...
McEnany will probably get a job in saudi...
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I agree. Giving the vote to a pack of Latinos in Puerto Rico would be outrageously undemocratic....lol. We should go back to pure democratic days when white male landowners did the voting. Things have gone downhill since we started including the rabble.
I just wish i was in the vicinity of trump so i could say to him You're fired LOSER... lol. His pitiful response to losing this election .... it's kind of embarrassing. The trump crew all look like they are going to cry...lol.
And they wheel out Rudi and Don jnr to make a case for fraud....lol. Have those two ever told the truth? It's like an alternate universe comedy...
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So you are suggesting that votes have been fabricated and that the high voter turnout is really just the dems making up votes? If so, why didn't they rig it so the victory was a bit more clear cut?
You have gamely fought on here for your man for years. Not sure your pal will go home and get his shinebox, but you should. Take the defeat with honor.
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Biden has dementia?
Donald Trump - "Look at the oranges of the investigation", "you get turd immunity', hurricanes are "very wet from a water standpoint", the revolutionary army "took over the airport". He was sure he would win "bigly". Have you listened to him read aloud?
A 74 yo with pronounced language difficulties ought to be careful about where he throws labels like dementia.
A big dose of socialism with a dash of communism should help the healing.
Trump always feared Biden
He promoted Bernie instead for this reason
Trump fears losing because he suffers depleted narcissism - 'I must not display weakness lest I be destroyed'
He believes his own spin to avoid a psychologically annihilating event
Frederick Christ Trump Sr made Donald's financial fortune and Donald's impoverishment as a human being
Staggering that Trump has been the most powerful person on the planet for four years
But this is ending
PS sincere thanks for the debates, hope they haven't caused you too much stress
I'd do that very happily if I believed Trump was voted out by the people of America. I don't.
I have called out corruption and deceit for years and almost all of it has come from one direction. Sideswipe, can you explain why the count was stopped in three Democrat states where Trump was leading by healthy margins? They usually keep counting through the night. Three Democrat states in different time zones stopped their counting at the very same moment. Who directed that and why? Then suddenly around 4:00am they find 130000 votes for Biden-enough to push him over the line in Wisconsin?
They had a simple plan in mind and the MSM pushed it. The kept saying there will be a red mirage on the night of the election but rest assured, the mail in ballots will come flooding in and sweep Biden to victory. They mailed out tens of millions of unsolicited mail in ballots for the first time in American political history. Of course they can do all kinds of things with these ballots. There have been numerous finds of boxes of ballots with votes for Trump in ditches and bins. They can also simply fill them in. The whole thing stinks and we all said so long before the event. Why did a Democrat judge rule that matching signatures would not be required to authenticate mail in vote?
This mess was predicted by Trump and is not moaning about a result after the fact. Trump had record votes in New York and amongst blacks and Hispanics yet we are expected to believe he lost Michigan- a state which has been torn apart by Democrat policy and rejuvenated by Trump. So his own base turned against him just enough for Joe to eke out a victory? Trump has recorded incredible numbers, yet we are seeing him suddenly slip behind in a handful of key states. All Joe needs to do is win. The margin doesn't matter. Truly fraudulent people aren't stupid. Enough is as good as a feast. All they have to do is sit back and see how much is required to get Joe over the line. This is happened before but on a far smaller scale-still enough to tip elections.
I am genuinely stunned at the level of corruption in politics. I knew it was always a dirty game but the Democrats (with their surveillance of Trump, The phony Dossier, the disgusting lies and accusations directed at Brett Kavanaugh and the cover up of the Biden laptop scandal by the complicit media and Big Tech has taken it to a whole new level.
Interesting week or two ahead. I think the Democrat machine, media and Big Tech will ultimately triumph. It is simply too powerful. Very sad and worrying times.
No worries. I am upset, but I have four beautiful grandkids to keep things in perspective. Cheers.
That's hilarious. Trump called for unity from day one. You can watch his speech on the night of his victory if you don't believe me. The difference is, conservative mobs won't be burning down buildings and attacking anyone they see in a Biden cap. Did you see the mobs lined up outside the White House last night- all ready to riot if Trump won? And you blame Trump for the division? Unbelievable.
You are an ignorant man, Markfs. Rudi destroyed the mafia in New York. He was regarded as a brave, truth teller and advocate for the man in the street. He hasn't changed. He is still fighting corrupt mobs. List Don juniors lies for me and tell me what's on his laptop.
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My fear (for Americans), if they do not sort out the vulnerabilities of Mail-in votes.... they will never get a fair election. its what ever the Media and "behind the scenes" hand shakes that will determine their leader. Compromised and low integrity.
If Biden won fair and square, congrats to him and his supporters and vice versa to Trump, but to have a the decision come down to a non transparent and untraceable and low integrity way is dangerous... I think its been going on for many smaller elections, but this one in 2020 is a MASSIVE issue. Basically, presidency is for sale, whomever can "purchase" the required votes wins... dangerous for the masses.
If Biden won fair and square, congrats to him and his supporters and vice versa to Trump, but to have a the decision come down to a non transparent and untraceable and low integrity way is dangerous... I think its been going on for many smaller elections, but this one in 2020 is a MASSIVE issue. Basically, presidency is for sale, whomever can "purchase" the required votes wins... dangerous for the masses.
JB1975
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I've seen a few explanations, which indicate that the vote wasn't stopped and that they didn't just 'find' ballots.
Different blocks of votes get registered at different times, including postal votes.
I think you know this. Trump certainly knows this. The sudden appearance of pre-election day ballots --which were always expected to favour Biden-- was always going to used in the narrative of a 'stolen election'.
Bernie predicted as much a few weeks ago.
Fact check: Wisconsin did not 'find' 100K ballots around 4 a.m. the morning after the election, or take break from counting votes
The morning after the election, social media generated an avalanche of claims about the timing of Wisconsin's vote counting. Much of it isn’t true
www.jsonline.com
jathanas
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We will have to agree to disagree. His premature call that he won and subsequent claims of cheating are the most simple and recent examples I will provide. He is no peacemaker.
I respect you greatly as a poster because you have resisted getting personal whilst expressing your support for Trump. You have not taken any opportunity to insult others, even when people have not been as kind to you. Thank you for that.
