Very Disappointing Last Quarter

[r_boy]

1. A single ruckman tiring from carrying the entire ruck load.

2. One man down on the interchange bench.

3. A team of kids that were buggered from flogging bigger, stronger and more experienced opposition players for 3 quarters.


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Like I said, from the VERY BEGINNING of the last quarter (when they had just had a minor break), they were TERRIBLE. They had just had a break so you'd think they could at least contest the first bounce or two but they just capitulated. How can running out of legs be an excuse that early on in the quarter?

 

[Zondor]

He didn't go anywhere.

I still luvs yah mate. But seriously people are gonna have a whinge. It is human nature and there is nought all to **** all that yah can do about it.

Yes we have a young side. Yes it seems we are heading in the right direction. But the last quarter was disappointing and some on here ye have the right to point out the obvious and discuss it. Just like RB and I have the right to talk about our 5 inch old fellows. :stern look

 

[Zondor]

r_boy I hear ye yah.

 

[shagger_grant]

for years we have never been able to smack a team,we tend to let them back in,is it good ,no,but at leats we won,if we want to be a good team we will smack ordinary teams when we get them down,will hopefully come with time,we are a young side that needs to learn how to hole teams on a run

 

[r_boy]

There is so much evidence built up over the last ~5 years that we struggle to put teams away yet people don't think it is even an issue atall regarding our poor last term tonight? Like not even one bit of an issue for why we had a poor last quarter? You MUST be kidding me.

 

[shintemaster]

I'm just saying that we've never been able to put teams away that it must be some sort of mindset. We were absolutely smashing them to pieces and to lose the quarter by 45 points is not acceptable, it's not just because we were tired. We had plenty of the ball to do damage of our own and to kick no goals was a worry.

Yeah, look, by all means if it bothers you and you think it is something you can analyze go for it. I personally don't think it's that complicated or requires too much analysis, they're just not ready yet, mostly in a physical sense. I just think you're going to end up frustrated if you worry about something like this that we won't be able to change in the short term.
My opinion overall, we haven't been able to put teams away because we just haven't been good enough - but that is kind of irrelevant because this team is for the most part a new one. They got belted in one quarter and it's a pity but it's just the way it is at the moment.

There is so much evidence built up over the last ~5 years that we struggle to put teams away yet people don't think it is even an issue all regarding our poor last term tonight? Like not even one bit of an issue for why we had a poor last quarter? You MUST be kidding me.

5 years? FFS, of the team out there tonight there would be lucky to have been 5 players that were in it 5 years ago.

 

[Brad Roo]

There is so much evidence built up over the last ~5 years that we struggle to put teams away yet people don't think it is even an issue all regarding our poor last term tonight? Like not even one bit of an issue for why we had a poor last quarter? You MUST be kidding me.

I figure it's patently obvious to anyone that has any football nous as to what is going on.

How could anyone in their wildest dreams find a correlation between Laidley and Scott related fade outs? It's chalk and cheese stuff.

 

[ImaLetUFinish]

There is so much evidence built up over the last ~5 years that we struggle to put teams away yet people don't think it is even an issue all regarding our poor last term tonight? Like not even one bit of an issue for why we had a poor last quarter? You MUST be kidding me.

There is a MASSIVE difference between going into lead preservation mode every time we get 4 goals up (last ~5 years) and what happened tonight. Surely you can see that?

 

[LuvtheKangas]

There is a MASSIVE difference between going into lead preservation mode every time we get 4 goals up (last ~5 years) and what happened tonight. Surely you can see that?

Unfortunately, it seems he can't. Hence the OP and subsequent posts.

 

[r_boy]

There is a MASSIVE difference between going into lead preservation mode every time we get 4 goals up (last ~5 years) and what happened tonight. Surely you can see that?

Well I'll say it again. We were terrible from the very beginning of the term. How can we have run out of legs in the first 3 minutes when they just had three quarter time break?

 

[Zondor]

There is a MASSIVE difference between going into lead preservation mode every time we get 4 goals up (last ~5 years) and what happened tonight. Surely you can see that?

r_boy I hear ye yah but yah need to understand this. Laidleys was Negative Nelly reincarnate. With Scott he is just interested in playing his Doggy Style regardless. The effort of the players dropped off in the final term. That is a concern. Putting teams away has been a concern over time however now we do have a younger playing group and they will play inconsistant throughout a season and even game to game. But the effort that was put in during the final quarter was poor. No doubt and I agree with yah had the game been close coming into the final term the effort would have been greater by the boys. Such is life. Better to have a crank and move on with life. :stern look

 

[r_boy]

Unfortunately, it seems he can't. Hence the OP and subsequent posts.

We flogged Melbourne for the first half and then came out in the third quarter and put in a pretty ordinary effort and Melbourne got back into it. They then realised in the fourth quarter, i.e. when they should be tiredest, that they had to lift their game and did so accordingly. How was running out of legs a factor in that fadeout?

I think I have enough evidence to suggest I have at least some kind of point here. Certainly the blatant disregard shown by some posters is pretty ignorant IMO.

 

[Zondor]

Quite Frankly if Leigh Brown had still been with us tonight's fade out would not have happened. I miss Leighroy. Kicked 5 for Collingwood today. Very Good Player.

 

[Brad Roo]

We flogged Melbourne for the first half and then came out in the third quarter and put in a pretty ordinary effort and Melbourne got back into it. They then realised in the fourth quarter, i.e. when they should be tiredest, that they had to lift their game and did so accordingly. How was running out of legs a factor in that fadeout?

I think I have enough evidence to suggest I have at least some kind of point here. Certainly the blatant disregard shown by some posters is pretty ignorant IMO.

Do you think the fact that Melbourne are also a pretty young side might have played a part in that outcome?

 

[Zondor]

I think I have enough evidence to suggest I have at least some kind of point here. Certainly the blatant disregard shown by some posters is pretty ignorant IMO.

Yep. Yah do. Just stop being negative cause the Goody Two Shoes don't like it. :stern look

P.S. I still luv yah Goody Two Shoes but to completely disregard r_boy's thoughts isn't being very fair and not very Goody Two Shoes. :stern look

 

[r_boy]

r_boy I hear ye yah but yah need to understand this. Laidleys was Negative Nelly reincarnate. With Scott he is just interested in playing his Doggy Style regardless. The effort of the players dropped off in the final term. That is a concern. Putting teams away has been a concern over time however now we do have a younger playing group and they will play inconsistant throughout a season and even game to game. But the effort that was put in during the final quarter was poor. No doubt and I agree with yah had the game been close coming into the final term the effort would have been greater by the boys. Such is life. Better to have a crank and move on with life. :stern look

Hey I agree completely of course we are young and they aren't quite fit enough yet, running out of legs definitely played a part. But to say our effort in the last quarter was the same as every other quarter well that is just bullshyte.

We were contesting well late in the third quarter, and capitulated as soon as the fourth quarter began. What did we run out of legs walking around in the rolling huddle for gods sake?

 

[r_boy]

Do you think the fact that Melbourne are also a pretty young side might have played a part in that outcome?

Haha gee you're a character Brad Roo.

Cmon mate you can't seriously think our effort in the last quarter was the same as the other three quarters can you?

 

[Brad Roo]

Tell me, what is your reasoning behind our last quarter efforts of the last 5 years?

 

[Twinkletoes]

When Boomer made that errant pass deep in our backline to start the rot in the last qtr I turned to Mrs Toes and said "I hope this doesn't change the momentum". It did, and due to our youth, our one man ruck and lack of rotation options, knackeredness after working our butts off to lead by 54 pts etc etc etc, we were powerless to stop it. End of story!

We won. They lost We live to fight another day and the coaching staff have a few things evident in the final quarter to work overtime on going forward.

 

[conwaynmfc]

The OP is just shit, completely lacking any football knowledge and that goes for those that have agreed with it.

Fadeouts and inability to win by big margins has been plaguing us for 8 years mate. When does it get addressed? I think it's a fair enough question. Nearly every year our percentage is down with those near the bottom. Sure the kids were tired etc etc but nearly giving up a 50 point lead, even Melbourne's "kids" did a number on us in the 3rd quarter.

 

[r_boy]

Tell me, what is your reasoning behind our last quarter efforts of the last 5 years?

Haha you are awesome. Cmon just answer the question.

Look my point isn't about last quarter efforts really it's more about our lack of initiative to just belt teams.

I mean whenever I've looked at the ladder for a long time now about ~70% of the time I see us on however many wins but we always have a worse percentage than those above us and for a lot teams below us as well.

Okay well you're saying Laidley and Scott different yeah I totally get that I don't think Scott will tolerate it much I do rate him highly. However, it's been an ongoing concern and it's not like this type of thing will just change overnight. It's not like under Laidley it was fading away and under Scott it's now just completely lack of fitness all of a sudden.

 

[Twinkletoes]

Look my point isn't about last quarter efforts really it's more about our lack of initiative to just belt teams.

2010, New Game, New Era, a large number of kids running around in our guernsey playing a new gameplan under a new coach. In time this group will belt sides r_boy

 

[r_boy]

2010, New Game, New Era, a large number of kids running around in our guernsey playing a new gameplan under a new coach. In time this group will belt sides r_boy

Haha I look forward to it T'Toes. Hey I think we're going in the right direction for sure and see us as legitimate premiership contenders around the 2015 mark when funnily enough our young guys are experienced and fit enough. I reckon they'll learn a heap from that last quarter and next time they're in a similar position they'll do a much improved job.

 

[DarwinRoo]

Are people still assuming that once a team gets a lead the other side is just going to give up?

 

[Groucho]

Are people still assuming that once a team gets a lead the other side is just going to give up?

I think when you're 54 points up at three quarter time it's reasonable to expect that you should at least maintain that lead if not increase it. I was devestated by that last quarter and when the siren,thankfully, sounded I stood up and walked out. For the first time I didn't sing the song. I said to my brother that "I almost feel like we lost" and a chorus of 4 or 5 people I didn't know said "yeah". This was the most disappointing win I have ever experienced.