wallace is a good Coach

[Bojangles17]

they had 60 more points scored against them than ours and we have a better back half. Like i said they need to find a defender or 2, which is the harder assignment, theirs or ours?

I'll tell you whats ****en hard, tell me the next best forward at Carlton...Thats got you ****ed

 

[CoggaRules]

I'll tell you whats ****en hard, tell me the next best forward at Carlton...Thats got you ****ed

yes...it has..but they have a Fisher dont they?....you see you are stuck in this rut BJ where you cant bring yourself to face reality. Lets switch it abit, tell us who our best forward is? go on and then tell us who our next best is...and then tell us who the next best is...then tell us how we got all 3 of them...then tell us how we are going to get a FF who just missed the ton this year and gives you 80 goals a year........and while you are at it, tell us who is going to be our top gun ruckman...and who is going to back him up....Then tell us where they finished compared to us. And who you think has the easier assignment in what they have to find for the future.

Maybe you might understand me more when i ask you who was our second best forward last year...and who is our second best this year and what did it take to get him.

 

[Bojangles17]

yes...it has..but they have a Fisher dont they?....you see you are stuck in this rut BJ where you cant bring yourself to face reality. Lets switch it abit, tell us who our best forward is? go on and then tell us who our next best is...and then tell us who the next best is...then tell us how we got all 3 of them...then tell us how we are going to get a FF who just missed the ton this year and gives you 80 goals a year........and while you are at it, tell us who is going to be our top gun ruckman...and who is going to back him up....Then tell us where they finished compared to us. And who you think has the easier assignment in what they have to find for the future.

Maybe you might understand me more when i ask you who was our second best forward last year...and who is our second best this year and what did it take to get him.

richo 59 brown 35 morton 35 delidio 28...carlton could only wish

 

[CoggaRules]

richo 59 brown 35 morton 35 delidio 28...carlton could only wish

yes Fev covers the two best...then you have? morton and how did we get him?

They had Fev at 99...40 more than our best and our best was of course standing at FF.

You dont want to admit it but they are light years ahead of us in list management. They have covered all the important points perfectly. They got 2 number 1 picked mids...added a superstar at 25 to guide them and a number 1 picked ruckman to feed them and a FF to finish off what they all do. And like i said now they even have a bonus and can have a choice before us in the draft. That and they are 1 1/2 games behind us and 3 games from 4th. do you not understand how better placed they are than us?
We have JS, we are elevating ****ing a rookie from the rookie list who was shown the door from a team going nowhere, as our best option this year. Like give me a break man...start seeing reality and stop looking at the TW hype show.

 

[Bojangles17]

yes Fev covers the two best...then you have? morton and how did we get him?

let me give you a tip partner, Richo and browny will still be around for fevs useful life in footy..so start again...who's the next best goal kicker at Cartlon, Let me give you a clue he's 5" 4

 

[CoggaRules]

let me give you a tip partner, Richo and browny will still be around for fevs useful life in footy..so start again...who's the next best goal kicker at Cartlon, Let me give you a clue he's 5" 4

yFisher? he is only 5' 4"? Oh you mean betts ok, so he is their crumbing forward, and who is ours? Like he aint a HF he aint a CHF so he is a FP. Now lets see, HFs what do you need to give up to get a decent HF, oh look here is an expample, Morton, like wow you really need to hand over your first rounder to get that type of player dont you? Or you might need to hand over a first rounder to get a HB? Naaa but how do you get a decent ruckman? a big fish mid? a FF who can kick you 80 goals a season? go on BJ you are the one with all the answers dude...fire away

 

[mitch richmond]

Cogga - the salt in the wound comment where you are annoyed Carl get a higher pick in the upcoming draft suggests you wish we lost more games!

I'll take that Richo, Deledio, Morton, Brown combo (and the strong, improving, young, youthful defence) ahead of the 1985 model Carlton have where one bloke kicks 90+ and then they drop away. Gee, WB and StK dont have a player who kicked 60+!!!!!!!
Fisher's never kicked more than 3 goals in his career.

 

[Bojangles17]

Cogga - the salt in the wound comment where you are annoyed Carl get a higher pick in the upcoming draft suggests you wish we lost more games!

I'll take that Richo, Deledio, Morton, Brown combo (and the strong, improving, young, youthful defence) ahead of the 1985 model Carlton have where one bloke kicks 90+ and then they drop away. Gee, WB and StK dont have a player who kicked 60+!!!!!!!
Fisher's never kicked more than 3 goals in his career.

fisher...sarge has more ability in the end of his toe than him....cant believe Im arguing over the Blues on terh ****en tigers board...what next

 

[Madtiger2006]

Hey Cogga, we are the 5th highest scoring team in the afl. Richo only won us a couple of games if any at all this year. Get over yourself fool

 

[IDGAF]

as his own golden boy Nathan Brown himself admitted...has actually done the opposite of what he said he would do... tried to make finals for first two years....only started serious rebuild in 3rd

20 players were cut or traded in the first two years REO ..... i don`t know what else he could to appease people ...

If that is ..."Trying to make finals" ... then i would hate to see what a serious clean out is

 

[IDGAF]

yes Fev covers the two best...then you have? morton and how did we get him?

They had Fev at 99...40 more than our best and our best was of course standing at FF.

You dont want to admit it but they are light years ahead of us in list management. They have covered all the important points perfectly. They got 2 number 1 picked mids...added a superstar at 25 to guide them and a number 1 picked ruckman to feed them and a FF to finish off what they all do. And like i said now they even have a bonus and can have a choice before us in the draft. That and they are 1 1/2 games behind us and 3 games from 4th. do you not understand how better placed they are than us?
We have JS, we are elevating ****ing a rookie from the rookie list who was shown the door from a team going nowhere, as our best option this year. Like give me a break man...start seeing reality and stop looking at the TW hype show.

LMAOOO

Still going on about Fev

I will bookmark this post and drag it out in couple of years time .

 

[Mario Speedwagon]

20 players were cut or traded in the first two years REO ..... i don`t know what else he could to appease people ...

If that is ..."Trying to make finals" ... then i would hate to see what a serious clean out is

Well apart from what I've witnessed , I'll also take his favourite son's word for it...Brown said that's exactly what went down on Before The Bounce...(paraphrase)"we probably made a mistake by having a real crack at the finals in the first two years instead of re-building...we didn't really start to seriously re-build until last year(07)" Why would he lie?
Besides...11th to 9th to 16th suggests this...and who and what did he trade and who for...and apart from Lids & Bling, who did he really play constantly in the seniors? Most new coaches "clean out" in their first year, easiest thing for a new coach to do, doesn't neccessarily always imply a rebuild....rennovations maybe, presents the appearance of a rebuild ..but not always an actual rebuild....a rebuild is judged on how and what you actually build not what you knock down first...a vacant lot is still not a new house..

 

[Sausage roll]

Well apart from what I've witnessed , I'll also take his favourite son's word for it...Brown said that's exactly what went down on Before The Bounce...(paraphrase)"we probably made a mistake by having a real crack at the finals in the first two years instead of re-building...we didn't really start to seriously re-build until last year(07)" Why would he lie?
Besides...11th to 9th to 16th suggests this...and who and what did he trade and who for...and apart from Lids & Bling, who did he really play constantly in the seniors? Most new coaches "clean out" in their first year, easiest thing for a new coach to do, doesn't neccessarily always imply a rebuild....rennovations maybe, presents the appearance of a rebuild ..but not always an actual rebuild....a rebuild is judged on how and what you actually build not what you knock down first...a vacant lot is still not a new house..

Brilliant post!!

100% right....again!!

 

[IDGAF]

Brilliant post!!

100% right....again!!

Who did he play "constantly" in 05 sausage ?

I will give you ten minutes to answer

 

[IDGAF]

Most new coaches "clean out" in their first year, easiest thing for a new coach to do, doesn't neccessarily always imply a rebuild..

i don`t see how that counters my point ... 20 new players on your list in two years .... thats a fair turn around .

Seven kids taken in the 04 draft of which one made any impact in 05....

Is that because they just weren`t ready or because TW was stubborn and has no idea ???

I would suggest we won games in 05 in spite of ourselves , and hell , whelan dosn`t snap NB`s leg in half hey .. there is a hypothetical .

Whilst there are those that subscribe to the theory that "tanking" is the Be all and end all of premiership success , i personally would rather see a winning , competetive culture instilled ..... but hang on , is that part of a rebuild ... or just crickets chirping on the vacant lot ?

 

[froars]

Most new coaches "clean out" in their first year

I really don't know how Wallace could have gotten rid of 35+ players since he's been here without cleaning out in the first year.
But people still clutching straws with this argument - try something a little bit more logical will youse!