Current WAR CRIMES Israel Hamas Conflict Pt 2 - ICC issues warrants for Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu & Yoav Gallant * Warrant for Deif is cancelled

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The ICC has also issued warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant. The warrant for Deif was cancelled on confirmation of his death.

For Netanyahu and Gallant, who was replaced as defence minister earlier this month, the chamber “found reasonable grounds to believe” that they “each bear criminal responsibility for the following crimes as co-perpetrators for committing the acts jointly with others: the war crime of starvation as a method of warfare; and the crimes against humanity of murder, persecution, and other inhumane acts”.

It also found reasonable grounds to believe that “each bear criminal responsibility as civilian superiors for the war crime of intentionally directing an attack against the civilian population”.

According to the ICC, the chamber “found reasonable grounds to believe” that Deif was “responsible for the crimes against humanity of murder; extermination; torture; and rape and other form of sexual violence; as well as the war crimes of murder, cruel treatment, torture; taking hostages; outrages upon personal dignity; and rape and other form of sexual violence”.

It also said there were reasonable grounds to believe the crimes against humanity were “part of a widespread and systematic attack directed by Hamas and other armed groups against the civilian population of Israel”. CANCELLED POST-DEATH.

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[Deliverance]

I am going to go out on a limb here... It was because there were some signals being detected in the lead up to the attack on the early morning of October 7th, there was a fear of anti-tank attack close to the border so the order was given for the patrol not to approach the fence, which is an "unusual but not unheard of" order according to Shiman Malka of the Golani brigade.

It's really unlucky because the four cars that were set to patrol the fence would have been able to single-handedly hold the entire attack off and undo October 7th. There were like 3800 Hamas attacking from a bunch of different locations, but one patrol would have undone the entire operation... Not the Merkava tanks though, they got disabled almost immediately, but that infantry patrol would have been the difference.

That's totally why they were held back. Because Israel wanted a mass casualty event. That's definitely a conversation that took place among the IDF generals and the politicians. You have a firm grip on reality.

Like I said, I'm sure the investigation will be thorough. Your random guesswork is appreciated though.

 

[Jazny]

Like I said, I'm sure the investigation will be thorough. Your random guesswork is appreciated though.

No it wont. You have nailed them, they will have to cover this up. There is no explanation for that patrol being told not to go near the fence except for the IDF wanting to get October 7thed. You truly are a special genius, like it's amazing. Has the CIA contacted you with a job offer yet? They really are dropping the ball if they haven't.

That patrol at 5:30 in the morning driving a long a small sector of the fence totally would have been able to thwart Hamas's entire operation. Hamas wouldn't have even thought about a four car patrol along a fence at 5:30am. They would have had no contingency for that. Hamas were all just standing there in the open hoping a patrol car didn't come past.

 

[Deliverance]

No it wont. You have nailed them, they will have to cover this up. There is no explanation for that patrol being told not to go near the fence except for the IDF wanting to get October 7thed. You truly are a special genius, like it's amazing. Has the CIA contacted you with a job offer yet? They really are dropping the ball if they haven't.

That patrol at 5:30 in the morning driving a long a small sector of the fence totally would have been able to thwart Hamas's entire operation. Hamas wouldn't have even thought about a four car patrol along a fence at 5:30am. They would have had no contingency for that. Hamas were all just standing there in the open hoping a patrol car didn't come past.

933 posts and this is the cleverest thing you've said. There's hope for you yet.

 

[Zidane98]

Your usual Israeli propaganda. If that video said what you claim we would have seen it already.

It's more likely that she was killed by IDF bombing as the Jerusalem Post reported. Her father said that in the video, his daughter could be seen talking about her family and begging for the bombing to stop, fearing for the other Israelis in captivity.

After more than two years, we still don't have an official Israeli inquiry into the events of October 7, 2023. What were the military and intelligence failures? How many Israelis were killed by the IDF during the battle?

Let's start with your claim that a hostage wasn't murdered by her doctor in Al-Shifa hospital.

Open to your analysis to support your claim.

On another note, I would have thought your first reaction would be horror. Not to defend Hamas and then bring up other unrelated Hamas propaganda from Oct 7 itself.

 

[DapperDon]

No it wont. You have nailed them, they will have to cover this up. There is no explanation for that patrol being told not to go near the fence except for the IDF wanting to get October 7thed. You truly are a special genius, like it's amazing. Has the CIA contacted you with a job offer yet? They really are dropping the ball if they haven't.

That patrol at 5:30 in the morning driving a long a small sector of the fence totally would have been able to thwart Hamas's entire operation. Hamas wouldn't have even thought about a four car patrol along a fence at 5:30am. They would have had no contingency for that. Hamas were all just standing there in the open hoping a patrol car didn't come past.

Why such disdain for people asking questions into things? What if The IDF were able to raise the alerts earlier than what happened? Maybe, just maybe there would have been less hostages and possibly even deaths.

You don't seem to want these questions asked though, it's actually weird.

 

[Jazny]

You don't seem to want these questions asked though, it's actually weird.

Don't pretend to be stupid. He is saying that Israel let it happen to justify a response.

 

[Zidane98]

Why such disdain for people asking questions into things? What if The IDF were able to raise the alerts earlier than what happened? Maybe, just maybe there would have been less hostages and possibly even deaths.

You don't seem to want these questions asked though, it's actually weird.

You are a reasonable poster and can see that the intent behind the posts is to allude that the IDF killed Jews on Oct 7 in Israel deliberately.

I will say that there is no valid evidence of that at all. At most there were a handful of friendly fire deaths which have been documented . That for me is hardly surprising when 4000 terrorists invade with the sole purpose of murdering as many Jews as possible get involved in urban warfare with IDF.

The hidden message behind all of these baseless conspiracy theories is it downplays what Hamas did in Israel which was one of if not the worst terror attack since 9/11. They would have murdered 50,000 Jews in a day's work for them easily if they were not stopped by IDF.

 

[Zidane98]

This along with a public clock counting down the destruction of Israel.

A reminder that this is the main supporter of Hamas.

 

[Jameggins]

And now quote Netanyahu and the rest of the psychopaths in the Israeli govt.

 

[Zidane98]

A good point - time for some large scale anti Hamas protests by those who really want to show solidarity and support for Gazan civilians.

 

[Jameggins]

Ah I guess it was too hard to find a quote by Netanyahu or another member of the Israeli govt and not have them sound like Khomeini.

 

[faible]

 

[Deliverance]

Sounds almost like ethnic cleansing to me

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[Zidane98]

Good piece this one explaining how Hamas and other radical islamic terror groups fuel the far right in Israel:



Get rid of PIJ/Hamas, Likud loses its grip on power..

 

[Jazny]

Why did they build the "apartheid wall"? What a joke the majority of these pro-Palestinian intellectuals are. No mention of the second intifada with constant streams of terrorists coming into Israel to blow themselves up among teenage girls and what not in Israeli cities. They want you to believe it's just for no reason whatseover, Israel built an apartheid wall.

 

[Zidane98]

Why did they build the "apartheid wall"? What a joke the majority of these pro-Palestinian intellectuals are. No mention of the second intifada with constant streams of terrorists coming into Israel to blow themselves up among teenage girls and what not in Israeli cities. They want you to believe it's just for no reason whatseover, Israel built an apartheid wall.

Israel should not build any walls on Palestinian territory.

On the border is fine.

 

[Jazny]

Israel should not build any walls on Palestinian territory.

On the border is fine.

The issue I have is not whether you can criticise the wall's placement. It's about deliberately omitting it's reason for existence. If his argument was "the wall is bad, in part, because it extended to protect Israeli settlements that are well beyond the green line", I don't have an issue. If he says "everything was great, but then Israel built an apartheid wall", it's like okay grifter. He is selling a lie to a western audience who don't know the history. He is white washing mass atrocities.

People don't know this history. They think the blockade of Gaza is for no reason. It's actually funny because sometimes when people are brave enough to answer "what should Israel have done after October 7th", some people suggest building a bigger wall and establishing a blockade... it's like... why did you think there was a blockade? Constant terror attacks from Hamas and the PIJ from Gaza. Can you criticise aspects of the blockade? Yes. Is it bad for people who live in the blockade? Yes. Is Israel justified in imposing a certain level of blockade to stop Hamas getting weapons? Absolutely.

 

[Zidane98]

The issue I have is not whether you can criticise the wall's placement. It's about deliberately omitting it's reason for existence. If his argument was "the wall is bad, in part, because it extended to protect Israeli settlements that are well beyond the green line", I don't have an issue. If he says "everything was great, but then Israel built an apartheid wall", it's like okay grifter. He is selling a lie to a western audience who don't know the history. He is white washing mass atrocities.

People don't know this history. They think the blockade of Gaza is for no reason. It's actually funny because sometimes when people are brave enough to answer "what should Israel have done after October 7th", some people suggest building a bigger wall and establishing a blockade... it's like... why did you think there was a blockade? Constant terror attacks from Hamas and the PIJ from Gaza. Can you criticise aspects of the blockade? Yes. Is it bad for people who live in the blockade? Yes. Is Israel justified in imposing a certain level of blockade to stop Hamas getting weapons? Absolutely.

The reasons for building a wall are understandable.

Just don't do it within Palestinian territory. Don't split up Palestinian territory.

The only way there will be peace if Israel withdraws and both states agree on territory.

 

[Jazny]

The reasons for building a wall are understandable.

Just don't do it within Palestinian territory. Don't split up Palestinian territory.

The only way there will be peace if Israel withdraws and both states agree on territory.

Have you got faible blocked still, I was responding to a video he posted. You keep talking past my point.

 

[Zidane98]

Have you got faible blocked still, I was responding to a video he posted. You keep talking past my point.

Had totally forgotten about that poster.

I can only imagine the sort of stuff that poster would be posting on a topic like this.

Some posters seem to think Israel should be ok with a declared terror organisation that repeatedly declares intent to annihilate it being right on its doorstep.

Reality is there won't be peace as long as there are radical islamic terror groups in positions of power in Palestine.

Remove those groups and eventually walls won't be needed one day down the track.

I posted recently that Likud and the far right is fuelled by Hamas / PIJ etc.

 

[Zidane98]

Hamas have released their version of Oct 7. Apparently they did not attack a single civilian:



This is an ominous sign as it indicates that they will not hand over power to new technocratic Palestinian administration and eventually PA as agreed previously.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Hamas have released their version of Oct 7. Apparently they did not attack a single civilian:



This is an ominous sign as it indicates that they will not hand over power to new technocratic Palestinian administration and eventually PA as agreed previously.

Do you think Hamas should comply with the ceasefire agreement while Israel is refusing to comply on a daily basis?

Also, what are you thoughts on Israel arresting Santa Claus?

Israeli police arrest Palestinian man dressed as Santa Claus at Christmas party

Officers closed Christmas event in Haifa, confiscating equipment and also arresting a DJ and a street vendor

www.theguardian.com

 

[Zidane98]

Do you think Hamas should comply with the ceasefire agreement while Israel is refusing to comply on a daily basis?

Also, what are you thoughts on Israel arresting Santa Claus?

Israeli police arrest Palestinian man dressed as Santa Claus at Christmas party

Officers closed Christmas event in Haifa, confiscating equipment and also arresting a DJ and a street vendor

www.theguardian.com

Both sides should follow the ceasefire agreement. Hamas should disarm and handover power immediately as that is what PA has decided and most importantly what the citizens of Gaza want.

I have noted that pretty much all of Israel's breaches of ceasefire have been in response to Hamas attacks on IDF.

I have stated previously that Israel shouldn't respond unless directly attacked on a large scale by Hamas and should mediate first rather than respond with force.

 

[Jazny]

Do you think Hamas should comply with the ceasefire agreement while Israel is refusing to comply on a daily basis?

Also, what are you thoughts on Israel arresting Santa Claus?

Israeli police arrest Palestinian man dressed as Santa Claus at Christmas party

Officers closed Christmas event in Haifa, confiscating equipment and also arresting a DJ and a street vendor

www.theguardian.com

Israel arresting Santa Claus at some party is global news! If a country arrested one of Australia's Santa Clauses, I hope Australians would all become terrorists I am so mad about some tiny weird domestic dispute in a foreign country. Thank god The Guardian is brave enough to report on this in their world news section and you have brought it our attention through your deligent spamming of the refresh button on your Israel hate social media feed. I can't stop shaking. #FreeSanta

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Israel arresting Santa Claus at some party is global news! If a country arrested one of Australia's Santa Clauses, I hope Australians would all become terrorists I am so mad about some tiny weird domestic dispute in a foreign country. Thank god The Guardian is brave enough to report on this in their world news section and you have brought it our attention through your deligent spamming of the refresh button on your Israel hate social media feed. I can't stop shaking. #FreeSanta

Sorry Jazny, I thought Santa was a Christian icon. I mean, he did die for our sins and all that!

Regardless, thank you for representing #ElfCrew in such a diligent way