Europe War in Ukraine - Thread 5 - thread rules updated

[Zidane98]

Oops

 

[Aussie in exile]

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Russia doing Russian things - deporting 200,000 Crimean tartars to Kazakhstan from Crimea and embarking on a Russiafication program:



Indigenous Crimean tartars have always been subject to ethnic cleansing in Crimea whenever it has been under occupation or control of Russian forces.

russia under putin = nazi germany

 

[Zidane98]

It appears our drones took out some aircraft.

To really take the piss out of Russians we should make these things out of recycled VB cans.

 

[Aussie in exile]

Just copying what the man who approved and has funded his fight has been doing for years with no outcry due to the CCPs control of Tiktok data and algorithms.

China’s children start first day schooled in ‘Xi Jinping thought’

The Chinese president’s political ideology is incorporated into the national curriculum as the new school year begins

www.theguardian.com

if only the west and other arab nations would unify in support of the defenceless palestinians in this manner.

The irony of you posting this, while sticking up for Israel over on the Crime page, with 1,500+ posts and zero even discussing the fact that Netanyahu is a wanted war criminal and the mountain of documented crimes committed by the IDF which are far worse than this.

Your double standard is ridiculous and completely undermines any point you're trying to make.

It's a reminder - Technology changes the rules. Not just warfare, everything!

Just when you think that russia can't get any dumber they do this

Russian Drones Strike Three Commercial Ships Including Chinese Bulker

Ukrainian officials are reporting that three commercial ships inbound for the ports near Odesa were struck on Monday. Although there was only minor da...

maritime-executive.com

 

[Zidane98]

Ukraine defense department has officially announced this





With Ukraine battling away on its own in spite of Orange Mussolini's attempts to force a capitulation and even President Xi suggesting that Putin will regret his invasion perhaps this will be enough to get Putin to start thinking about a withdrawal.

 

[Aussie in exile]

Ukraine defense department has officially announced this





With Ukraine battling away on its own in spite of Orange Mussolini's attempts to force a capitulation and even President Xi suggesting that Putin will regret his invasion perhaps this will be enough to get Putin to start thinking about a withdrawal.

We must never forget that this war is all about putins ego and him suffering from little man syndrome.

 

[wannabejack]

so what? no one has suggested they aren't protecting their country with weapons as far as they are able. the point was that without massive mentoring, military hardware, surveillance information etc they would have been overrun by putin ages ago. just as the defenceless palestinians have been targeted and overrun by the ruthless supremacists because the world has stood by and let it occur

“This is Ukrainian industry” was in reference to ZERGULIO comment regarding drones (“This Is European industry”). The vast majority of drones used by Ukraine are produced domestically.

For whatever reason, you want to compare Gaza and Ukraine when “There are currently 56 conflicts, the most since World War II. They have become more international with 92 countries involved in conflicts.”

The reason “countries in europe have given mountains of aid and support” to Ukraine is because this war is on their door step. russia wins this war then the old soviet states in the EU will be next.

 

[Zidane98]

Surprise surprise - Pedo Putin had repeatedly rejected Ukraine peace proposals and chosen war instead:



It is absurd there are people out there selling the absolute disgraceful lie that Russia is "fighting" NATO in Ukraine.

Such a lie is outright fascist and directly supportive of Pedo Putin's attempts to annihilate / genocide Ukrainians.

The choice by Russia to continue the war is 100% down to Russia. They can withdraw completely from Ukraine at any time and this guarantees immediate cessation of Ukraine's special military operation inside Russia.

 

[Zidane98]

Oh my how the tables have turned. US now wants to do a deal for Ukranian drone tech:



I think we all know the response Ukraine gives.

 

[Zidane98]

These vatniks just don't get it do they?



This sort of fascist mindset is embedded and can't be negotiated with.

Russia needs a completely new leadership post war. Similar in how Japan & Germany reinvented themselves after WW2.

 

[Not Important]

not surprising in many ways. the cost of putin's war must be gigantic.

 

[Zidane98]

not surprising in many ways. the cost of putin's war must be gigantic.

At any one time they've got 600,000 active troops in occupied Ukraine just to hold on to territory. Because as soon as they leave or numbers are reduced Ukraine and locals will take back territory.


Wages alone for those troops plus supply lines, military equipment etc is massive. Talking tens of billions of cruise / ballsitic missiles, shahed suicide drones fired at Ukraine since the full scale invasion.

As of January 2026 the estimated economic cost to Russia for launching and maintaining a full scale invasion of Ukraine was up to $2.5 trillion:

Russia Spent $2.5 Trillion in Its War in Ukraine to Occupy Land Equal to 10% of Texas

Defense News analysis: Russia’s war against Ukraine costs an estimated $2.5T, above its GDP, with losses in lives, gear, and growth.

united24media.com

325,000 fatalities and 875000 casualties in combat.


Easily the biggest invasion by far the world has seen since Nazi Germany & Empricial Japan in WW2.

 

[CD Xbow]

I'm sure the timing of this is not accidental.

Russia holds massive drills of its nuclear forces

The three-day exercise will involve 64,000 troops and focus on the “preparation and use of nuclear forces under the threat of aggression.”

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Aussie in exile]

At any one time they've got 600,000 active troops in occupied Ukraine just to hold on to territory. Because as soon as they leave or numbers are reduced Ukraine and locals will take back territory.


Wages alone for those troops plus supply lines, military equipment etc is massive. Talking tens of billions of cruise / ballsitic missiles, shahed suicide drones fired at Ukraine since the full scale invasion.

As of January 2026 the estimated economic cost to Russia for launching and maintaining a full scale invasion of Ukraine was up to $2.5 trillion:

Russia Spent $2.5 Trillion in Its War in Ukraine to Occupy Land Equal to 10% of Texas

Defense News analysis: Russia’s war against Ukraine costs an estimated $2.5T, above its GDP, with losses in lives, gear, and growth.

united24media.com

325,000 fatalities and 875000 casualties in combat.


Easily the biggest invasion by far the world has seen since Nazi Germany & Empricial Japan in WW2.

I think you are being more than very genorus to say that there have only been 325,000 russian fatalities, and then you have to take into consideration how many north koreans have lost their lives along with Chinese and Africans as well, and those from former soviet republics

 

[Zidane98]

I'm sure the timing of this is not accidental.

Russia holds massive drills of its nuclear forces

The three-day exercise will involve 64,000 troops and focus on the “preparation and use of nuclear forces under the threat of aggression.”

www.nbcnews.com

Yawn. Add it to the list of threats made by Putin & co already (in the hundreds):

A Timeline of Russia’s Nuclear Threats Against the West

While Russia frequently accuses the West of escalation, we look at all the times Russia has made nuclear threats against the West.

united24media.com

They like to create the impression they will fire a nuke however the reality is there are only two scenarios where Russia will fire a nuke -


a nuclear attack on Russia (not going to happen) or the complete collapse of the state by an invading force.

 

[Zidane98]

Russians have started using depleted Uranium rounds in Ukraine:



Not inherently dangerous but not what you would want to be leaving around in territory you claim and want to occupy.

They are losing and going for a scorched earth policy.

 

[wannabejack]

One month ago.

 

[Zidane98]

What an embarrassment for Putin - he thought intimidation of Baltic states would work:





This goes in video addresses where Putin talks about "Mr Zelensky".

You would think that Russia is not far off realising that sinking another trillion dollars on keeping the invasion going and losing 35,000 troops a month is actually worth it coupled with publicly being humiliated by Zelensky, Ukraine and allies regularly.

 

[Zidane98]

Once again Putin is copying the Hitler playbook. Here he is, talking about ambitions of a new Russian empire 20 years ago:



Just like Hitler did with Mein Kampf here is Putin telling us that he is determined to create a new Russian empire to replace the collapse of his beloved USSR.

Notably in December 2021 he delusionally demanded that NATO expel Poland & Baltic states.

As long as Putin was in charge he was going to invade Ukraine even if NATO did not exist as long as it was not a puppet state of his. He genuinely believes that Ukrainian language, culture, nationality & sovereignty is not a real thing and anyone who opposes that is subject to annihilation & extermination because they are stopping his dream of a new Russian empire.

To end this war I am afraid Putin will either need to be not breathing anymore or locked away in a former gulag in Siberia. As long as he's running Russia he'll attempt to invade Ukraine repeatedly.

 

[Zidane98]

Russian oil refineries off line



Putin can't even capitalise on short term oil price hikes.

 

[Zidane98]

Implications for Russia choosing to continue Pedo Putin's invasion of Ukraine

 

[Zidane98]

One month ago.

Explains the 93% and rising drone interception rate of Russian shahed drones.

Costing 2k is pretty important. No longer firing air defnese missiles at drones. Shahed drones cost Russia 30k each. There is only one winner in this scenario and it's Ukraaine.

 

[Zidane98]

Take note vatniks - this is how a respectable nuclear power behaves. Tells it quite straight that any use of nuclear weapons by Russia against Ukraine will result in devastation for Russia.


I can guarantee Vladolf Pedo Putler won't be threatening NATO in response.


Russia is getting absolutely smashed on the battlefield, politically, everywhere.

No wonder our resident vatniks have thrown in the towel.

 

[Zidane98]

Too funny. President 11 demands Russia drop its gas price 5 times before approving new gas pipeline to China:




Clearly, Russia cannot be saved by China. China is only interested in predatory pricing deals with a desperate dictator willing to do anything just to keep going.

 

[CD Xbow]

Explains the 93% and rising drone interception rate of Russian shahed drones.

Costing 2k is pretty important. No longer firing air defnese missiles at drones. Shahed drones cost Russia 30k each. There is only one winner in this scenario and it's Ukraaine.

Yes, the numbers move in favour of the defender at those prices. These sort of capability are now an essential requirement for any military. I hope the ADF are investing in these in significant numbers, the lessons have been given in Ukraine and Iran. Let's hope the right folks learn those lessons.

Speaking of lessons learned or not, remember Mr Trump refused Mr Z's offers last year of interceptors because the 'USA has the best drone defences' then had to expend 25-50% of their high level interceptors shooting down mostly cheap Iranian drones.