Europe War in Ukraine - Thread 5 - thread rules updated

[wannabejack]

"Whether there is a ceasefire or not, the only security guarantee outside NATO membership that I fully recognize is a powerful, modern, and highly motivated Ukrainian Armed Forces."
Petro Poroshenko

 

[Zidane98]

What would Russian borrowing look like?

Borrowing billions of Yuan from China to spend in China? It would give China, a far bigger economic nation, far too much leverage over Russia in the future and the rates would be eye-watering given the state of Russian finances. The current formal interest rate in Russia is 14.5%.

You think Russia would consider borrowing hundreds of billions of Yuan from China at 25% interest rates to continue a war which has been going on for 4 years already with no sign of stopping? They're stupid, but they're not that stupid.

It could bankrupt the country in 2-3 years and take decades to pay off, and that would just be to maintain the military status quo, not actually make any difference in the outcome.

Britain was fighting for survival, if they lost, they wouldn't have to pay anything. Russia aren't going to bankrupt themselves over a stupid war of choice.

Especially when they can unlock 200 billion euros in frozen assets in the event that they withdraw from Ukraine totally and agree reparation payments.

Sanctions removal, freely trading on world markets would be worth a fortune to Russia.

 

[Zidane98]

Putin is hosting the St Petersburg economic forum.

You all know what's coming and yes it has already happened




Basically Ukraine can attack and hold vital Russian oil infrastructure as it pleases within Russia and occupied territories.


Russia's oil industry is at the mercy of Ukraine. Putin has control of all media but trying to sell that to the population is going to be difficult.

 

[Zidane98]

No more fuel supplies for vatniks occupying Crimea. What a shame. Russian rear and supply lines getting an absolute hiding and there's nothing they can do about it apart from Putler sending a mass mobilisation of a few hundreds thousand troops as cannon fodder to secure the land bridge.





Odds on Kerch bridge surviving 2026 is now about 50/1.

 

[Zidane98]

This is the sort of scum that fascist Russia courts

 

[Cap]

They'll wait until the end of the war and then print money to pay off all the debts that the Govt owes to the private entities. It's all in Rubles, so the Govt doesn't have a problem.

The private entities can't do anything, the inflation impacts the population, but they've gone so insular it won't matter too much. China will outsource their sweat-shops to Russia in the future because Russian money is worth even less than ever before.

Less Russian tourists in Asia is a good thing.

They'll need to, Banks are screaming for money printing to begin. Just can't see it ending well.

what I am finding hilarious is the Shills thinking Russia have the capacity to start WW3.

They are cooked, they've peaked in this war and all that is left is their terrorist strikes.

 

[Zidane98]

Trump loses Iran war resolution vote in congress with GOP turning on him.

Nek minnut




This is a previously authorised by congress military aid package that Orange Mussolini was obliged to deliver but held back - not a new package.


Putin really does not have much time left while his asset Orange Mussolini has effective power.

 

[Zidane98]

Things must be going bad for Russia when Rubio comes out with stuff like this

 

[Cap]

Trump loses Iran war resolution vote in congress with GOP turning on him.

Nek minnut




This is a previously authorised by congress military aid package that Orange Mussolini was obliged to deliver but held back - not a new package.


Putin really does not have much time left while his asset Orange Mussolini has effective power.

You get the feeling people like Rubio will be doing everything they can to make people forget he kissed the ring.

Hopefully US voters don't forget.

 

[Zidane98]

 

[Zidane98]

Presented at St Petersburg economic forum here is Russia's 2050 plans inc annexing Ukraine by 2036:




Quite clearly the current Russian cold war era fascists simply must go and not be involved in governing Russia again.

The level of delusion and fascism displayed here is off the charts. They really are trying their hardest to emulate Nazi Germany.

 

[StFly]

What would Russian borrowing look like?

Borrowing billions of Yuan from China to spend in China? It would give China, a far bigger economic nation, far too much leverage over Russia in the future and the rates would be eye-watering given the state of Russian finances. The current formal interest rate in Russia is 14.5%.

You think Russia would consider borrowing hundreds of billions of Yuan from China at 25% interest rates to continue a war which has been going on for 4 years already with no sign of stopping? They're stupid, but they're not that stupid.

It could bankrupt the country in 2-3 years and take decades to pay off, and that would just be to maintain the military status quo, not actually make any difference in the outcome.

Britain was fighting for survival, if they lost, they wouldn't have to pay anything. Russia aren't going to bankrupt themselves over a stupid war of choice.

They're already doing this, as the Yuan is used to offset western sanctions for Russia, so they already deal with Yuan when dealing with China that reports were a rough 90% of sales were all in Yuan between the two of them.

TASS
Bloomberg (2 weeks old)
Moscow Times

Moscow time one to show a 1% growth for Yuan in Russian finances. So yes, as they are already spending billions of rubles, and Chinese banks are refusing that currency, what's a few more?

 

[Smeg Head]

Presented at St Petersburg economic forum here is Russia's 2050 plans inc annexing Ukraine by 2036:




Quite clearly the current Russian cold war era fascists simply must go and not be involved in governing Russia again.

The level of delusion and fascism displayed here is off the charts. They really are trying their hardest to emulate Nazi Germany.

Long Term the blob that is 'Russia' can no longer be allowed to exist, for the good of humanity

 

[Zidane98]

Long Term the blob that is 'Russia' can no longer be allowed to exist, for the good of humanity

#make Russia Small Again
#MRSA

 

[SLF]

Its fascinating the way there's high def satellite images ready to go after a strike after this.

Having dealt with them in the past, indeed even been inside the building (the old one though), I've always been impressed by size and capability of the NATO media team.

Drone strike with a comms plan, contemporary warfare the Western way.

Going through Estonian airspace (if not launching just direct from Estonia) to hit St Pete during Putin's big day is a very provocative move - which is the point of course.

 

[SLF]

NATO headquarters was great - totally like being in a movie, a Michael Bay one maybe.

Loooooooooong corridors with like groups of men striding purposefully, half of them in perfectly cut suits and then American officers still in their desert camo.

Good fun to be had drinking with the USMC guys too.

 

[Visions]

Presented at St Petersburg economic forum here is Russia's 2050 plans inc annexing Ukraine by 2036:




Quite clearly the current Russian cold war era fascists simply must go and not be involved in governing Russia again.

The level of delusion and fascism displayed here is off the charts. They really are trying their hardest to emulate Nazi Germany.

From taking control of the country in 3 days, to now the latest timeframe estimate of 14 years......

Go the feeling this is going to be like Trumps "2 weeks", deferring it eternally.

Didn't one of the vatniks on here tell us the fall of Odesa was imminent a few months back?

 

[Visions]

Putin is hosting the St Petersburg economic forum.

You all know what's coming and yes it has already happened




Basically Ukraine can attack and hold vital Russian oil infrastructure as it pleases within Russia and occupied territories.


Russia's oil industry is at the mercy of Ukraine. Putin has control of all media but trying to sell that to the population is going to be difficult.

Here's Russia's anti aircraft defence system in St Petersburg hard at work trying to take out a drone...



Vision of the attack on the warship in St Petersburg at the start of the video.

 

[Visions]

Things must be going bad for Russia when Rubio comes out with stuff like this

I find it interesting that allegedly there are more deaths than injured on the Russian side. So much for the 3-1 ratio.

 

[Visions]

Russian oil production is in collapse




If the Iran war ends Russia is absolutely ****ed as that will result in a rapid increase in oil supply, sanctions reinstated against Russian oil and price cap enforcement.

Russia cannot even meet OPEC export targets now - something that was unthinkable before Putin launched his fascist empirical invasion of Ukraine.

Expect Vladof Putler to do everything possible to keep the Iran war going because prices going back to $50-60 / barrel would be an economic disaster for Russia without supply increasing dramatically.

Russia has finally admitted to falling oil production. Their excuse?

"Oil refineries are currently undergoing unscheduled maintenance"

Russia acknowledges oil output drop, says due to maintenance

Investing.com -- Russian oil production has decreased since the start of 2026, Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak said Thursday, attributing the drop to unplanned maintenance at refineries.

au.finance.yahoo.com

 

[PieBeast]

There is a zero percent chance that Ukraine would let Donald Trump's administration know about that attack before they carried it out.

Everyone knows Trump, and many members of his entourage, are compromised when it comes to Russia.

Maybe somebody in the CIA in Ukraine got wind of it, but if they were pro-Ukraine, they wouldn't have reported it up the chain of command because everyone in the CIA knows Trump is compromised. Everyone in the US Ukraine embassy knows what happened to Marie Yovanovitch at the hands of Trump.

Trump wouldn't have sanctioned it, or he would have warned Putin. So no, I think it would have been stupid for Ukraine to tell the US about it.

Yeah.. "everyone" knows Trump is Putin's puppet when it comes to Ukraine but when it comes to Middle East Bibi is Trump's owner... As if their interests are aligned.
Keep up the good work.

 

[Zidane98]

Ukraine has developed a new ballistic missile

 

[Zidane98]

Vatnik alert



Perhaps he was "under siege"?

 

[wannabejack]

Russia has finally admitted to falling oil production. Their excuse?

"Oil refineries are currently undergoing unscheduled maintenance"

Russia acknowledges oil output drop, says due to maintenance

Investing.com -- Russian oil production has decreased since the start of 2026, Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak said Thursday, attributing the drop to unplanned maintenance at refineries.

au.finance.yahoo.com

“Maintenance” teams from Ukraine are performing the “maintenance”.

 

[wannabejack]

Vatnik alert



Perhaps he was "under siege"?

Not too many who can refuse a Chinese meal.