Watts for Carey

[essnickess]

Come on, just take the plunge.

 

[Alex99]

surly we can find a forward pocket for the kid......but not for carey. He is not the reason we lost the first two games

 

[Stiffy_18]

It would help if Watts was fit.

I might be the only one here but Carey was not our worst player yesterday. He competed really well but its not his fault the delivery was crap and crumbers had no brains.

 

[essnickess]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
It would help if Watts was fit.

I might be the only one here but Carey was not our worst player yesterday. He competed really well but its not his fault the delivery was crap and crumbers had no brains.

ok not necessarily for carey, and not necessarily this early, but if adelaide are out of contention early (and i'm not writing them off now) would you bring him in prematurely to prepare for careys retirement when he will have to a forward spot.

 

[-WWJD-]

Agreed. And if he'd kicked straight he could've had 4 goals and no-one would be complaigning. Not to mention the fact that Michael would be only second behind Scarlett in terms of the best full backs in the league.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by acg_204*
Agreed. And if he'd kicked straight he could've had 4 goals and no-one would be complaigning. Not to mention the fact that Michael would be only second behind Scarlett in terms of the best full backs in the league.

I would have Michael over Scarlett any day. Maybe its just me but personally I think Mal Michael is the best fullback in the comp. He is also one of the fairest players around. Something that can't be said for Scarlett.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by essnickess
ok not necessarily for carey, and not necessarily this early, but if adelaide are out of contention early (and i'm not writing them off now) would you bring him in prematurely to prepare for careys retirement when he will have to a forward spot.

If we fall deeper into dung as we appear to be heading that way, then Watts will be given a run if he is not injured. If the wheels fall off then I think all of the youngsters will get a fair run.

 

[ant]

Well, I bumped into Fergus last night and had a bit of a chat, he reckons he's pretty much over his bout of OP and will be back in a week, next week....take from that what you will.

Nice bloke btw, loves Jet too....he's got some good moves.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by ant
Well, I bumped into Fergus last night and had a bit of a chat, he reckons he's pretty much over his bout of OP and will be back in a week, next week....take from that what you will.

Nice bloke btw, loves Jet too....he's got some good moves.

So it is OP. Its good to hear he is getting over it. He was listed at the beginning of the week as 1 week away from resuming. I think next week he will line up for the Eagles. Maybe he will line up in the seniors despite lack of match fitness.

I would still like him to put on a more muscle before he gets to play AFL footy. Maybe play him in the later 3rd of the season on a flank or in a pocket. The kid has exceptional pair of hands. If he gets his hand on the ball he very rarely drops a mark. If he can stay injury free and continues on with his development and right attitude, he will be one hell of a player for us.

 

[ant]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
So it is OP. Its good to hear he is getting over it. He was listed at the beginning of the week as 1 week away from resuming. I think next week he will line up for the Eagles. Maybe he will line up in the seniors despite lack of match fitness.

I would still like him to put on a more muscle before he gets to play AFL footy. Maybe play him in the later 3rd of the season on a flank or in a pocket. The kid has exceptional pair of hands. If he gets his hand on the ball he very rarely drops a mark. If he can stay injury free and continues on with his development and right attitude, he will be one hell of a player for us.

Yeah, I wasn't sure about it but he was pretty adamant that it actually was OP, however he's now definitely over most of it and will be back playing with 'Woodville' next week. And he seemed to be moving fine to me, though dancefloor=football field...hmmm....probably not

And yeah, don't see any harm in giving him a bit of a taste for it sometime this year, injuries notwithstanding.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by ant
And yeah, don't see any harm in giving him a bit of a taste for it sometime this year, injuries notwithstanding.

No harm but let him settle down with the Eagles first. Give him a run in the 2nd half of the year when we have a bit easier draw. And don't bring him in for 1 week and then drop him. If we bring him in be prepared to give him at least couple of games in a row.

 

[Alex99]

But what kids will get a game


Jerico to replace Gallegher/ Doughty on a wing
Bock half forward or back pocket
A Parker could walk in to replace N Bassett


but our list needs to have some players delisted this early.....but l not going to name any.....it you went to, go ahead

 

[conVINCEd]

The scary thing to me is that we just don't have talented young guys waiting to replace the retirees at the end of the year.

The blame for this lies sqarely at the coaching group and the recruiting team. Over the past few years we have trading away nearly all of our second and third round picks, where many good players have been picked up. We've also traded a golden first round pick (in the Carey deal), another in the same deal, and stuffed one up with Angwin.

St. Kilda for example not only have the high picks like Riewoldt, Goddard, Ball etc, they also have kids that were taken in the second and third round such as Maguire. We just dont' have these and it will set back out rebuilding phase by another 1-2 years.

 

[Stiffy_18]

All the kids that are on the list will be given a run to see if they are up to it. The likes of Jericho, Rutten, Bock, Skipworth, Watts, Krueger and possibly a couple of rookies.

The only way that you can find out if they are up to it is to play them.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by McLeod23
The scary thing to me is that we just don't have talented young guys waiting to replace the retirees at the end of the year.

The blame for this lies sqarely at the coaching group and the recruiting team. Over the past few years we have trading away nearly all of our second and third round picks, where many good players have been picked up. We've also traded a golden first round pick (in the Carey deal), another in the same deal, and stuffed one up with Angwin.

St. Kilda for example not only have the high picks like Riewoldt, Goddard, Ball etc, they also have kids that were taken in the second and third round such as Maguire. We just dont' have these and it will set back out rebuilding phase by another 1-2 years.

Fair point.

I think all of us have to realise that it will take 3 years for us to rebuild. In these 3 years we must keep our picks and recruit some talented youngsters. We all agree that Reilly is going to be a very good player for us in time but lets not forget that a pick after Reilly, Saints selected Nick Dal Santo. I don't know about you guys but I know who I would rather have in my team.

 

[Alex99]

If Aryes is to go........is Neil Craig going to be his successor or someone else from interstate.

The coaching staff should all go and start again. Shawn Rhen and Darren Jarman (only current coach who should stay) to rebulid the squad. Rhenny did it with west and he can do it with us Malcome bight style.

 

[DaveW]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Fair point.

I think all of us have to realise that it will take 3 years for us to rebuild. In these 3 years we must keep our picks and recruit some talented youngsters. We all agree that Reilly is going to be a very good player for us in time but lets not forget that a pick after Reilly, Saints selected Nick Dal Santo. I don't know about you guys but I know who I would rather have in my team.

I've thought the same thing re Reilly/NDS.

Is it just me or is Reilly a bit overrated on what he's shown so far?

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by crows98
If Aryes is to go........is Neil Craig going to be his successor or someone else from interstate.

The coaching staff should all go and start again. Shawn Rhen and Darren Jarman (only current coach who should stay) to rebulid the squad. Rhenny did it with west and he can do it with us Malcome bight style.

If Ayres is to go, then I would want us to look elsewhere BUT I am almost certain that Craig will get the top job with us for 2005.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by DaveW
I've thought the same thing re Reilly/NDS.

Is it just me or is Reilly a bit overrated on what he's shown so far?

Both are talented but the main difference is that NDS gets his accolades for the runs he has on the board where as Reilly gets his for the glimpses he as shown here and there. This year Reilly has to REALLY step up to show us what he can do otherwise he will get th eoverrated tag very quickly.

 

[maccas_no1]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
If Ayres is to go, then I would want us to look elsewhere BUT I am almost certain that Craig will get the top job with us for 2005.

Okay I'd like to ask about Neil Craig, fair enough he is a senior memeber of the AFC coaching dept but wouldnt it be a well tradgic mistake if the AFC didnt look beyond him for a new senior coach???????

Lets be honest there are alot of candidates:

Gary O'Donnell,Shaun Rehn,Terry Wallace and even Stan Alves

I wouldnt consider Rodney Eade dont think he has what it takes at AFL level.

 

[Jerome]

Originally posted by McLeod23
The scary thing to me is that we just don't have talented young guys waiting to replace the retirees at the end of the year.

True. Especially in key positions, which are the problem areas.

I think with Watts, Krueger and Rutten we have at least had a go at developing options for a long term CHF/FF combination. Jericho on a flank could also be a handy pick up. So that's not too bad.

Its full back and the ruck that worries me! We havent been smart enough in getting long term options for these spots.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Jerome
True. Especially in key positions, which are the problem areas.

I think with Watts, Krueger and Rutten we have at least had a go at developing options for a long term CHF/FF combination. Jericho on a flank could also be a handy pick up. So that's not too bad.

Its full back and the ruck that worries me! We havent been smart enough in getting long term options for these spots.

The thing is that we never had a true FB. Never did we have a player that played FB and who ever was playing FF for the opposition he would stand them. Ever since our 1st game we always had a makeshift FB.

I agree that we don't have players that are ready to replace those senior players. We have Hudson to replace Clarke inthe short term but we need someone who can be a ruckman for the next 10-2 years. I read in the papers that lad from Westies is part of this year's AIS academy squad. IIRC, his name is Cameron Wood and is already 203 cm. Maybe we need to get on to Rehny to tell us something about the lad.

Maybe in time we could move McGregor to FB, play Hentschel at CHB and have the ones that you mentioned playing up forward.

We most definetly need to draft a few good midfielders this year and a good ruck prospect who will lead our ruck for the next decade.

3 year rebuilding phase is not far away.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Originally posted by essnickess
ok not necessarily for carey, and not necessarily this early, but if adelaide are out of contention early (and i'm not writing them off now) would you bring him in prematurely to prepare for careys retirement when he will have to a forward spot.

AFL games should never be given lightly.
The kid has to develop his game and gain confidence, so that if he gets an opportunity, he's prepared.
That means this season oin the SANFL - regardless of our situation.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by Wayne's-World
AFL games should never be given lightly.
The kid has to develop his game and gain confidence, so that if he gets an opportunity, he's prepared.
That means this season oin the SANFL - regardless of our situation.

Agree, let's not burn him early as he is an important part of our future. Play him in the SANFL for a while & if his form warrants it, he will get a game sooner than later. Playing Watts in the last 2 games would not have changed the results.

 

[Jerome]

I think we are into month number two of the three year plan already.

Hentschel would have to put on more muscle and seriously improve his attack on the ball to be considered a CHB. Second/Third defender at best until then.

As for other candiates I forgot about..

Andrews playing for Glenelg. Could be a handy back up ruck or forward. Good to hear he played well, I'll go and watch him at the Bay next week.

Biglands in a KKP - no way. Pinch hitting forward for a quarter but does not have the footy brain or toughness to play KP for a whole game.

I saw the profile on Wood. I think he was in the paper last year He needs to fill out more.

I also saw the info on Norwood's Chad Gibson - 17 yo 194cm, 93 kg. Does anyone know anything about him?