Wayne Carey

[Stiffy_18]

It was interesting to note in all this Carey inuendo that Crows supporters had different expectations as to how many goals will Carey kick. So here is the question. How many goals will Carey kick assuming he will be playing in majority of our games?

 

[Zombie]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
It was interesting to note in all this Carey inuendo that Crows supporters had different expectations as to how many goals will Carey kick. So here is the question. How many goals will Carey kick assuming he will be playing in majority of our games?

Where are the options for under 30???

 

[crowsfan]

Re: Re: Wayne Carey

Originally posted by Zombie
Where are the options for under 30???

Stiffy's just being optimistic.

I voted '70 to 80.'

 

[snakebite01]

Re: Re: Wayne Carey

Originally posted by Zombie
Where are the options for under 30???

Stiffy says, 'assuming he plays most games'. You would hardly expect the Greatest CHF of all time to kick less than 30 goals if he plays the majority of games. The only reason people think he will kick a low number is if he's injured or out of form but if he is either of these he won't be playing the majority of games, therefore there is no option under 30 goals. Hopefully that is cleared up for you.

 

[Leaping Lindner]

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Originally posted by crowsfan
Stiffy's just being optimistic.

I voted '70 to 80.'

And Zombie's just trying to be funny.

I went with the 40-50 option. If he plays more often than not.
I still tend to think he will keep the ball in the area and bring the ball to ground for the likes of Macca,Bode,Ladhams etc. And that will suit us just fine.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Re: Re: Wayne Carey

Originally posted by Zombie
Where are the options for under 30???

Zombie we are not talking about the age of the girls he is scoring, but the goals he is scoring. Stiffy, I reckon he will kick over 50 goals.

 

[crowsfan]

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Originally posted by Leaping Lindner
And Zombie's just trying to be funny.

I went with the 40-50 option. If he plays more often than not.
I still tend to think he will keep the ball in the area and bring the ball to ground for the likes of Macca,Bode,Ladhams etc. And that will suit us just fine.

Trying but not succeeding

But agree with you there LL, its more important that we are able to convert more of our F50 approaches overall than Carey's individual goal tally. But of course, the bigger Carey goal tally the better.

 

[macca23]

Zombie is extremely well named.

Presuming he does play in the majority of games I'm going for 70 to 80 - 78 to be precise!!!

 

[Zombie]

Just thought it was strange that you could have had all options (0-10 through to 100+) yet you chose not to. I guess you only want the answers you want to hear, it is a bit like having a poll that questions his behaviour at the grand and allowing the users to select either a)'He acted admirably' or b)'He did nothing wrong but he should have avoided those type of situations.

In the end you get the answer you are after but it isn't a very accurate consensus of what the majority of the public believes. Leaving in certain unlikely scenarios may attract the odd idiot element but leaving out the negative extreme whilst keeping the positive extreme loses all the poll's credibility.

Personally if Carey played the majority of the season (which he won't) I'd put him at between 40 and 50 goals.

 

[Jars458]

Originally posted by Zombie
Just thought it was strange that you could have had all options (0-10 through to 100+) yet you chose not to. I guess you only want the answers you want to hear, it is a bit like having a poll that questions his behaviour at the grand and allowing the users to select either a)'He acted admirably' or b)'He did nothing wrong but he should have avoided those type of situations.

In the end you get the answer you are after but it isn't a very accurate consensus of what the majority of the public believes. Leaving in certain unlikely scenarios may attract the odd idiot element but leaving out the negative extreme whilst keeping the positive extreme loses all the poll's credibility.

Personally if Carey played the majority of the season (which he won't) I'd put him at between 40 and 50 goals.

I thought you said he couldn't play good football for the Crows????

you have no credibility. Go away from our board/

 

[Stiffy_18]

Zombie since when are you a Crows supporter?????? This poll is for Crows supporters only to P iss off to your precious powder board

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Zombie
Personally if Carey played the majority of the season (which he won't) I'd put him at between 40 and 50 goals.

You mean if he kicked as well as Tredrea

 

[noddy]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
You mean if he kicked as well as Tredrea

Tredrae actually is not a bad kick for goal as long as the game is not in doubt & there is no pressure on him to put it through the high diddle diddle,

I voted for 50 - 60 goals but with just as many assists as he will definately take the oppositions no1 backman in any game he plays in.

 

[val]

As a Carey fan - have seen his value over the last 14 years (although not last season) taking the best back man, should allow other forwards to be less pressured and so he may not kick as many goals as expected; but he will still be the greatest asset for the Crows with his support for his team mates. Good luck Crows for 2003; but not when you play us. Val

 

[noddy]

Originally posted by val
As a Carey fan - have seen his value over the last 14 years (although not last season) taking the best back man, should allow other forwards to be less pressured and so he may not kick as many goals as expected; but he will still be the greatest asset for the Crows with his support for his team mates. Good luck Crows for 2003; but not when you play us. Val

Thank's for that Val & i'm sure just about all Crow fans wish the same to the Roos for many years to come,

What sort of reception do you think Wayne Carey will receive from the Roo fans when we meet in Melbourne or is Canberra??

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by noddy
Tredrae actually is not a bad kick for goal as long as the game is not in doubt & there is no pressure on him to put it through the high diddle diddle,

I voted for 50 - 60 goals but with just as many assists as he will definately take the oppositions no1 backman in any game he plays in.

I agree with you RE: Tredrea. He stuffs up the ones he should kick when the pressure is on where as Carey plays his best footy when under pressure.

If Carey manages to play some 20 games in 2003 (including the finals) I expect him to kick somewhere between 60 - 70 goals and set up a few.

 

[napsyd]

Originally posted by noddy
Thank's for that Val & i'm sure just about all Crow fans wish the same to the Roos for many years to come,

What sort of reception do you think Wayne Carey will receive from the Roo fans when we meet in Melbourne or is Canberra??

It Colonial on a Friday night I think. Should be VERY interesting, canna wait!!

 

[napsyd]

Originally posted by noddy
Tredrae actually is not a bad kick for goal as long as the game is not in doubt & there is no pressure on him to put it through the high diddle diddle,

I voted for 50 - 60 goals but with just as many assists as he will definately take the oppositions no1 backman in any game he plays in.

Nappy's with Noddy in this case. 50 - 60 goals. Any more would be a big bonus.

Nappy's with Noddy? Or is that Mr Bean with Nappy?

 

[Zombie]

Re: Re: Re: Wayne Carey

Originally posted by snakebite01
Stiffy says, 'assuming he plays most games'. You would hardly expect the Greatest CHF of all time to kick less than 30 goals if he plays the majority of games. The only reason people think he will kick a low number is if he's injured or out of form but if he is either of these he won't be playing the majority of games, therefore there is no option under 30 goals. Hopefully that is cleared up for you.

He has kicked less than 30 goals before during a season in which he has played the majority of games, and that was when he was in his prime.

If Carey plays atleast 15 of the 22 matches then I think the Crows will be happy, personally I think he will play somewhere between 10-15 matches with some of them carrying injuries, but we'll wait and see what happens.

Say Carey does play 17 games of the minor season and plays as well as he was prior to quitting the Kangaroos. In that unlikely scenario that he plays that amount of games and plays aswell as he did before an 18 month lay off you can still only expect him to kick 47 goals.

So which is being more unrealistic, suggesting he could kick over 100 goals (which he has never done in the past) or suggesting he could kick under 30 goals (which he has done in the past) ?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

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Originally posted by Zombie
He has kicked less than 30 goals before during a season in which he has played the majority of games, and that was when he was in his prime.

If Carey plays atleast 15 of the 22 matches then I think the Crows will be happy, personally I think he will play somewhere between 10-15 matches with some of them carrying injuries, but we'll wait and see what happens.

Say Carey does play 17 games of the minor season and plays as well as he was prior to quitting the Kangaroos. In that unlikely scenario that he plays that amount of games and plays aswell as he did before an 18 month lay off you can still only expect him to kick 47 goals.

So which is being more unrealistic, suggesting he could kick over 100 goals (which he has never done in the past) or suggesting he could kick under 30 goals (which he has done in the past) ?

Zombie, Carey will play mainly FF not CHF where he played for the Roos. ie. Should have more goal-kicking opportunities. Don't worry I'm used to you skewing only part of the facts to suit your arguement!

So which is more realistic - Crows' supporters who could give a toss what Zombie was saying, or those who would have a keen interest in your contributions. Perhaps we should have a poll (rigged of course)!

 

[Zombie]

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Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Zombie, Carey will play mainly FF not CHF where he played for the Roos. ie. Should have more goal-kicking opportunities. Don't worry I'm used to you skewing only part of the facts to suit your arguement!

So which is more realistic - Crows' supporters who could give a toss what Zombie was saying, or those who would have a keen interest in your contributions. Perhaps we should have a poll (rigged of course)!

Whether he lines up on paper at FF or CHF it will make little difference, he will play a fairly similar sort of role as he did at the Kagaroos in that he will be roaming around inside the 50m arc. The only difference that may exist is that he will play slightly deeper in attack which would mean less opportunity to get his hands on the ball and less opportunity to kick goals.

Hmm, another sensible Crow supporters argument, you better watch out there, with all your clubs thuggish decietful behaviour over the last few years you guys could be getting yourselves a reputation

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

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Originally posted by Zombie
Whether he lines up on paper at FF or CHF it will make little difference, he will play a fairly similar sort of role as he did at the Kagaroos in that he will be roaming around inside the 50m arc. The only difference that may exist is that he will play slightly deeper in attack which would mean less opportunity to get his hands on the ball and less opportunity to kick goals.

Hmm, another sensible Crow supporters argument, you better watch out there, with all your clubs thuggish decietful behaviour over the last few years you guys could be getting yourselves a reputation

Zombie, who has more opportunities to kick goals - Lloyd or Lucas; Neitz or Robertson/other CHF; Lynch or Brown; Kingsley or Mooney, etc ... Carey or Stevens ... see the pattern where the FF usually has more opportunities to kick goals than their CHF teamate!!! BTW, Zombie don't worry as we will never have a reputation equal to yours.

 

[Zombie]

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Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Zombie, who has more opportunities to kick goals - Lloyd or Lucas; Neitz or Robertson/other CHF; Lynch or Brown; Kingsley or Mooney, etc ... Carey or Stevens ... see the pattern where the FF usually has more opportunities to kick goals than their CHF teamate!!! BTW, Zombie don't worry as we will never have a reputation equal to yours.

Swoosh.

You obviously missed the point. When Carey played for the Kangaroos he generally played from the goal square up to the 50 mtr arc as a roaming forward. The only difference is that at the crows he will stay fairly close to the goal square which he also did at the Roos but he will not get the goals that he would get from moving out towards the 50 mtr arc like he did when he was at the roos.

 

[Jerome]

Originally posted by Zombie
...may attract the odd idiot element

Thank you for filling our quota for the day.

Jerome

 

[Zombie]

Originally posted by Jerome
Thank you for filling our quota for the day.

Jerome

Well thought you might need some help, Gary Ayres and Wayne Carey have set such a high standard in recent times that I thought you might need some help to keep it up.