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[Stamos]

Someone mentioned we only used 63 of the 75 rotations available on Thursday night. On the face of it that is pretty ordinary player management, is anyone getting reamed for that?

Williams off early (especially with an injury that it seams they took a bit of time to make a call on), and then Cripps hurt is going to be the main factor for less rotations.

 

[gbatman]

I would love to know if fitness has any part to play here. Outwardly it appears so but is our game style too much for the players, are they making it hard on themselves with their skills and/or decision making letting them down. Do they go into safe mode after half time and how much is between the ears.

Someone mentioned we only used 63 of the 75 rotations available on Thursday night. On the face of it that is pretty ordinary player management, is anyone getting reamed for that?

I feel there are so many unknowns at this point and primarily because Voss comes up with a one word answer, composure. I'm assuming he doesn't think it's fitness and more around execution and decision making but that stuff seems ok in the first half of games. Fatigue can affect those those things so ....

When you lose three games in a row the same way is it really just composure, I mean how and why does the team lose composure every second half?

Selections, skills, fitness, decisions, attitude/behaviour, maybe it's all of these but if so I can't see a quick fix.

I would love to hear an honest assessment from say Cripps or Weiters, would they say "we're just shagged by half time and can't run the game out".

I've been complaining for so long that Voss has no idea how to use more than 6 onballers and does not know how to rotate them. Interested to know what the figures usually are for us. At least we did some onfield midfield rotations.

 

[CarmenSandiego]

Someone mentioned we only used 63 of the 75 rotations available on Thursday night. On the face of it that is pretty ordinary player management, is anyone getting reamed for that?

it's collateral damage from our stoppage game.

ball gets stuck on the other side of the ground for ages.

 

[GoBlues!]

I would love to know if fitness has any part to play here. Outwardly it appears so but is our game style too much for the players, are they making it hard on themselves with their skills and/or decision making letting them down. Do they go into safe mode after half time and how much is between the ears.

Someone mentioned we only used 63 of the 75 rotations available on Thursday night. On the face of it that is pretty ordinary player management, is anyone getting reamed for that?

I feel there are so many unknowns at this point and primarily because Voss comes up with a one word answer, composure. I'm assuming he doesn't think it's fitness and more around execution and decision making but that stuff seems ok in the first half of games. Fatigue can affect those those things so ....

When you lose three games in a row the same way is it really just composure, I mean how and why does the team lose composure every second half?

Selections, skills, fitness, decisions, attitude/behaviour, maybe it's all of these but if so I can't see a quick fix.

I would love to hear an honest assessment from say Cripps or Weiters, would they say "we're just shagged by half time and can't run the game out".

To be fair there wasn’t a lot between the teams last week. If you said Kemp was going to kick 5, Charlie 3 and Young 2 and the Bulldogs Darcy held to 2 and Naugton to 1, we’d take that every day of the week.

As many have said it’s a personnel issue - our non-key forwards and midfield aren’t impacting the scoreboard. Teams like Hawks and Collingwood have wider spread of players that can run and kick goals.

 

[Blue since 72]

I've been complaining for so long that Voss has no idea how to use more than 6 onballers and does not know how to rotate them. Interested to know what the figures usually are for us. At least we did some onfield midfield rotations.

It is interesting, apart from George who seems to handle 4 quarters well Crippa looks completely stuffed, Cerra looked like he was running through molasses and it wasn't even half time yet. Really think Walsh needs a spell outside, maybe he'll hit a target by foot out there.

I did see Fog and Mots in there a couple of times and Williams probably would have done some if he'd stayed around.

Guess who got all of our centre clearances on Thursday; George 4, Crippa 2, Walsh 2 and Cez 5. These four also spent approximately the same amount of time on the ground (between 75 and 81%)

CBA's attended this year: Cripps 19, George 17, Cez 14, Walsh 14, Mots 3, Fog .7, Zac 3 , Lord 3.5. I guess this was where Jagga was going to step up. Missing E Hollands who did it a bit last year too and even Cincotta when he was doing run withs.

Don't know why Lord isn't playing

 

[Blue since 72]

Williams off early (especially with an injury that it seams they took a bit of time to make a call on), and then Cripps hurt is going to be the main factor for less rotations.

What do you think about the AFLW woman saying our interchange tactically was off in the last quarter as at one point we had Charlie, Jsos (coincidently when Naughton kicked his only goal) and Walsh on the bench for an extended period.

She was suggesting that you should have your stars out there when the game is on the line.

 

[Blue since 72]

To be fair there wasn’t a lot between the teams last week. If you said Kemp was going to kick 5, Charlie 3 and Young 2 and the Bulldogs Darcy held to 2 and Naugton to 1, we’d take that every day of the week.

As many have said it’s a personnel issue - our non-key forwards and midfield aren’t impacting the scoreboard. Teams like Hawks and Collingwood have wider spread of players that can run and kick goals.

Fair points but the way we lose has been the same in all three games, bolt out of the blocks, hold them for awhile then fade.

If this is just composure as Voss keeps suggesting then our team must be the definition of crazy; let's do the same thing and expect a different result.

 

[Stamos]

What do you think about the AFLW woman saying our interchange tactically was off in the last quarter as at one point we had Charlie, Jsos (coincidently when Naughton kicked his only goal) and Walsh on the bench for an extended period.

She was suggesting that you should have your stars out there when the game is on the line.

Fair criticism.
I would say that neither Charlie or Walsh are at full fitness so it's not quite normal, but having Jack off the ground then too was terrible.

 

[Stamos]

Fair points but the way we lose has been the same in all three games, bolt out of the blocks, hold them for awhile then fade.

If this is just composure as Voss keeps suggesting then our team must be the definition of crazy; let's do the same thing and expect a different result.

A lot of it is mental.
That was so evident in the Richmond game, which we were dominating late but couldn't find the goals. We seem to carry so much mental weight.
Which compounds in the following games, especially when so much seems to be going against us.

 

[GoBlues!]

A lot of it is mental.
That was so evident in the Richmond game, which we were dominating late but couldn't find the goals. We seem to carry so much mental weight.
Which compounds in the following games, especially when so much seems to be going against us.

Mental as anything…the yips are getting bigger.

 

[Stamos]

Mental as anything…the yips are getting bigger.

We hold in the Tiges game we'd be at least 2 wins.

 

[Blue since 72]

A lot of it is mental.
That was so evident in the Richmond game, which we were dominating late but couldn't find the goals. We seem to carry so much mental weight.
Which compounds in the following games, especially when so much seems to be going against us.

Yeah I've largely thought it's a fair bit between the ears. Implied pressure of being a big club with no recent success, then from the board all the way through to the supporters. We also have very little continuity of the same players playing together for an extended period and seem overly susceptible to certain players going out of the side.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

I've been complaining for so long that Voss has no idea how to use more than 6 onballers and does not know how to rotate them. Interested to know what the figures usually are for us. At least we did some onfield midfield rotations.

Voss should not have to manage these rotations. Someone else should be focused on that because there's actually a bit of complexity to getting the right TOG for the right players and having the right combinations out there at the same time and things can change with injuries etc

 

[gbatman]

It is interesting, apart from George who seems to handle 4 quarters well Crippa looks completely stuffed, Cerra looked like he was running through molasses and it wasn't even half time yet. Really think Walsh needs a spell outside, maybe he'll hit a target by foot out there.

I did see Fog and Mots in there a couple of times and Williams probably would have done some if he'd stayed around.

Guess who got all of our centre clearances on Thursday; George 4, Crippa 2, Walsh 2 and Cez 5. These four also spent approximately the same amount of time on the ground (between 75 and 81%)

CBA's attended this year: Cripps 19, George 17, Cez 14, Walsh 14, Mots 3, Fog .7, Zac 3 , Lord 3.5. I guess this was where Jagga was going to step up. Missing E Hollands who did it a bit last year too and even Cincotta when he was doing run withs.

Don't know why Lord isn't playing

Lord is not playing because the coach does no know how to use that many midfielders. Watch him flog them until the injuries begin. Then Lord will play. Has never been able to rotate enough through the middle. Clueless.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

I've been complaining for so long

fify

 

[Jimmae]

That’s true Jim. But we’ve had a lot of these slowish forwards and midfielders for a couple seasons now. Maybe they’re slower and more sluggish now.

What selection changes would you make?

My team changes for this week are in the game preview thread, I've made many, many, many recruitment suggestions.

 

[Blue Reaper]

Not just limited to the last game, but I’ve thought for a while that teams are too rigid and not strategic enough when using interchange rotations. And seem to lean too heavily on predetermined interchange plans.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

When I heard that Walsh and Cerra were only on the ground for 67% of the last quarter against the Dogs, I had to look deeper. I'm not sure what to make of this overall, whether some players are struggling after a couple of weeks or is it lack of fitness overall.

This is the percentage of time on ground for our main midfielders quarter by quarter for the 3 games so far:

Cripps
Rd 1 - 81, 87, 62, 90 - Total = 80
Rd 2 - 88, 68, 94, 79 - Total = 82
Rd 3 - 88, 78, 69, 87 - Total = 81

Walsh
Rd 1 - 70, 79, 84, 90 - Total = 81
Rd 2 - 90, 74, 79, 76 - Total = 80
Rd 3 - 73, 91, 86, 67 - Total = 79

Hewett
Rd 1 - 86, 58, 83, 49 - Total = 69
Rd 2 - 72, 89, 91, 69 - Total = 81
Rd 3 - 68, 87, 67, 90 - Total = 79

Cerra
Rd 1 - 92, 90, 73, 77 - Total = 83
Rd 2 - 66, 87, 56, 82 - Total = 73
Rd 3 - 86, 67, 83, 66 - Total = 75

Lord
Rd 1 - 60, 86, 82, 0 Subbed off - Total = 56%
Rd 2 - 0, 0, 0, 56 Subbed on - Total = 13%
Rd 3 - N/A

So in round 1, when the Tigers were running over us in the last, Cripps and Walsh were over utilised while Hewett was criminally underused. The fact that Lord was also subbed off for Docherty in that quarter, means we left too much to too few perhaps.

It's clear that Cerra spends more time off the field in the second half. It is also clear that we prefer Cripps to do most of his work in the first and last quarters.

For some reason, the Hawks game seemed contrary to the other games in the way we used these players.

For some reason, Cerra has gone from the most used midfielder in Round 1, to the least used in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.


Some interesting looks at how we used these main midfielders in the tracking information.

In Round 1, Walsh was 3rd on the ground for distance covered, 4th for average speed, 1st for average speed in attack. Lord was 1st on the ground for average speed, 5th for speed in attack, 4th for speed in defence.

In Round 2, Lord was number 1 on the ground for average speed in attack, and in defence.

In Round 3, Walsh covered the 5th most distance of both teams on the ground.

 

[katmanblue]

When I heard that Walsh and Cerra were only on the ground for 67% of the last quarter against the Dogs, I had to look deeper. I'm not sure what to make of this overall, whether some players are struggling after a couple of weeks or is it lack of fitness overall.

This is the percentage of time on ground for our main midfielders quarter by quarter for the 3 games so far:

Cripps
Rd 1 - 81, 87, 62, 90 - Total = 80
Rd 2 - 88, 68, 94, 79 - Total = 82
Rd 3 - 88, 78, 69, 87 - Total = 81

Walsh
Rd 1 - 70, 79, 84, 90 - Total = 81
Rd 2 - 90, 74, 79, 76 - Total = 80
Rd 3 - 73, 91, 86, 67 - Total = 79

Hewett
Rd 1 - 86, 58, 83, 49 - Total = 69
Rd 2 - 72, 89, 91, 69 - Total = 81
Rd 3 - 68, 87, 67, 90 - Total = 79

Cerra
Rd 1 - 92, 90, 73, 77 - Total = 83
Rd 2 - 66, 87, 56, 82 - Total = 73
Rd 3 - 86, 67, 83, 66 - Total = 75

Lord
Rd 1 - 60, 86, 82, 0 Subbed off - Total = 56%
Rd 2 - 0, 0, 0, 56 Subbed on - Total = 13%
Rd 3 - N/A

So in round 1, when the Tigers were running over us in the last, Cripps and Walsh were over utilised while Hewett was criminally underused. The fact that Lord was also subbed off for Docherty in that quarter, means we left too much to too few perhaps.

It's clear that Cerra spends more time off the field in the second half. It is also clear that we prefer Cripps to do most of his work in the first and last quarters.

For some reason, the Hawks game seemed contrary to the other games in the way we used these players.

For some reason, Cerra has gone from the most used midfielder in Round 1, to the least used in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.


Some interesting looks at how we used these main midfielders in the tracking information.

In Round 1, Walsh was 3rd on the ground for distance covered, 4th for average speed, 1st for average speed in attack. Lord was 1st on the ground for average speed, 5th for speed in attack, 4th for speed in defence.

In Round 2, Lord was number 1 on the ground for average speed in attack, and in defence.

In Round 3, Walsh covered the 5th most distance of both teams on the ground.

Thanks for putting that together.

On SM-F946B using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Del66485]

Cincotta is a big loss
Versatile, can do a shut down role and also be creative
And he is a good kick, and not too shabby for pace
How far away is he from playing?

 

[The Bighouse]

Cincotta is a big loss
Versatile, can do a shut down role and also be creative
And he is a good kick, and not too shabby for pace
How far away is he from playing?

4-6 weeks away. Thought it was initially around round 9 (had 9th May in mind as well) but there’d be some VFL matches to roll through firstly. Probably have byes then too.

 

[Del66485]

Cheers Big

 

[Forty3]

When I heard that Walsh and Cerra were only on the ground for 67% of the last quarter against the Dogs, I had to look deeper. I'm not sure what to make of this overall, whether some players are struggling after a couple of weeks or is it lack of fitness overall.

This is the percentage of time on ground for our main midfielders quarter by quarter for the 3 games so far:

Cripps
Rd 1 - 81, 87, 62, 90 - Total = 80
Rd 2 - 88, 68, 94, 79 - Total = 82
Rd 3 - 88, 78, 69, 87 - Total = 81

Walsh
Rd 1 - 70, 79, 84, 90 - Total = 81
Rd 2 - 90, 74, 79, 76 - Total = 80
Rd 3 - 73, 91, 86, 67 - Total = 79

Hewett
Rd 1 - 86, 58, 83, 49 - Total = 69
Rd 2 - 72, 89, 91, 69 - Total = 81
Rd 3 - 68, 87, 67, 90 - Total = 79

Cerra
Rd 1 - 92, 90, 73, 77 - Total = 83
Rd 2 - 66, 87, 56, 82 - Total = 73
Rd 3 - 86, 67, 83, 66 - Total = 75

Lord
Rd 1 - 60, 86, 82, 0 Subbed off - Total = 56%
Rd 2 - 0, 0, 0, 56 Subbed on - Total = 13%
Rd 3 - N/A

So in round 1, when the Tigers were running over us in the last, Cripps and Walsh were over utilised while Hewett was criminally underused. The fact that Lord was also subbed off for Docherty in that quarter, means we left too much to too few perhaps.

It's clear that Cerra spends more time off the field in the second half. It is also clear that we prefer Cripps to do most of his work in the first and last quarters.

For some reason, the Hawks game seemed contrary to the other games in the way we used these players.

For some reason, Cerra has gone from the most used midfielder in Round 1, to the least used in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.


Some interesting looks at how we used these main midfielders in the tracking information.

In Round 1, Walsh was 3rd on the ground for distance covered, 4th for average speed, 1st for average speed in attack. Lord was 1st on the ground for average speed, 5th for speed in attack, 4th for speed in defence.

In Round 2, Lord was number 1 on the ground for average speed in attack, and in defence.

In Round 3, Walsh covered the 5th most distance of both teams on the ground.

The things that stood out and was probably the moment I lost what little faith I had left in our coaching department,
(I'm big on the movement of trying to get people to transition away from blaming just Voss, because we he is only a part, and potentially not even the biggest part of the system issues)
Was in that round 1 game, when the game was slipping away and we needed to regain some control. Cripps was rucking (which I'm not a fan of anyway) but Hewett was on the pine for most of it.

So we've decided to put our best, and the comps best clearance player in the ruck, and the we have our second strongest inside mid and most defensive minded mid sitting on the bench...

 

[GoBlues!]

The things that stood out and was probably the moment I lost what little faith I had left in our coaching department,
(I'm big on the movement of trying to get people to transition away from blaming just Voss, because we he is only a part, and potentially not even the biggest part of the system issues)
Was in that round 1 game, when the game was slipping away and we needed to regain some control. Cripps was rucking (which I'm not a fan of anyway) but Hewett was on the pine for most of it.

So we've decided to put our best, and the comps best clearance player in the ruck, and the we have our second strongest inside mid and most defensive minded mid sitting on the bench...

What this suggests to me is they had a predetermined plan to use Cripps in the ruck at a certain time (3rd quarter) and lack of flexibility to adjust.

But to back that up with Hewett on the bench, shows lack of planning or higher expectation from Walsh, Cerra and Lord to get the job done playing a bottom side like Richmond. Poor game day management all round.

 

[bradfisher14]

The things that stood out and was probably the moment I lost what little faith I had left in our coaching department,
(I'm big on the movement of trying to get people to transition away from blaming just Voss, because we he is only a part, and potentially not even the biggest part of the system issues)
Was in that round 1 game, when the game was slipping away and we needed to regain some control. Cripps was rucking (which I'm not a fan of anyway) but Hewett was on the pine for most of it.

So we've decided to put our best, and the comps best clearance player in the ruck, and the we have our second strongest inside mid and most defensive minded mid sitting on the bench...

This coaching staff have been doing it for their entire tenure.

Every time we need to arrest the momentum of the opposition, we go into attack mode instead of trying to lock in and stop them getting a run on. You can see it happening if you re-watch every last-minute heart-breaking loss we've had since 2022 and there's been plenty of them.